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wanderer
Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
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posted October 23, 2003 04:03 AM |
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one more thingie before I leave
hi,
donno how to start this ...
been here since 3 seasons, played a lot, learned a lot, met a lot of nice ppls and a lot of notthatnice people
but... all the games that I've played, ( more than 200 ), I never was acused at least on 1 of them that I've cheated/edited map/checked saves, whatever can be done.
I always had at the end of the seasons highest honor , and this last one I left with high honor eh..
smthn strange happened today while I was playing tew, smthn I never seen in 6 almoust 7 years since I'm playing heroes, smthn that I guess nobody can or would be able to explain
we were playing on midnight's BB template
I attacked pack of black kinghts ( guarding the road to the 3rd town), at the end of the fight remained with 1 hidra and on the other side remained 1 black kinght , he had 60 or 70 hp, cant remember exactlly , anyway more that my hidra (cursed) could do , and my hidra had 11 hp left
so I retreated my main and lost the hidra
but
the strange thing is that .. the black kinght who had to remain there, on the map , on the road, dissapeared too, and I was able to go further with one of my scouts on the road
tough didnt had the chance to check things out if those were real or ireal lol, when my next turn will come cuz I and tew left the game
anyway, the fact is that tew, somehow acused me of cheating, because I wasnt able to explain that * as I've understood and thought*
told him that how can he do this to me? he knows me, knows who I am, knows how I play and stuffs.
told him on the zone, that if he tryes to think even, not to acuse, I will leave toh, because it would be too dishonorable for me to have someone like him think I could cheat or I would want to cheat
must also say that I didnt had the save on my pc, he had it and we loaded it, ( if some are thinking of editing it )
tew's answer to what I said was : (I hope I can reproduce it almoust 100% ): " if you want to leave toh, leave, If you keep this attitude ( had no ideea what kind of attitude he felt I had , because I was only wondering how could I explain that to him ), I will report loss."
that was his message to me
I was stoned, and msgd him back saying : " no need to report loss, never would ask that, and what kind of attitude I have? that could offend you that much?" but message remained undelivered because he discconected himself from the zone
one more thing
I've reported losses to all players I have had saves with :
wanderer reported a loss against splexx on Random Medium at 10/22/2003 @ 18:36:39.
wanderer reported a loss against thecastrated on Giant War at 10/22/2003 @ 18:36:59.
wanderer reported a loss against tewilligar on Random Large at 10/22/2003 @ 18:40:10.
wanderer reported a loss against bpanik2 on Giant War at 10/22/2003 @ 18:45:19.
wanderer reported a loss against frank on Random Large at 10/22/2003 @ 18:45:41.
wanderer reported a loss against lord_mlx on Giant War at 10/22/2003 @ 18:46:08.
wanderer reported a loss against zero on Random Large at 10/22/2003 @ 18:48:13.
so guys get youre games reported please
if there are some I;ve forgot, please e-mail me, and state it so, I can email ravyn and tell her to report for me as I have allready msgd her tonight to ask her to remove me completelly from toh
my e-mail addy is wan2001ro@yahoo.com, or wanderrer@linuxmail.org
which one ya prefer, I check them both frequently
I want to stress something, THIS IS NOT A WHINNING, or a toos
are just some words that try to explain why and how
at the end I would like to thank to all my friends on the zone, to all the players that played me, I hope ya enjoyed me and that I was not a easy win for any of ya.
Ravyn, tx a lot once more, ya've done beautiful things for me ( as for the clans ) , sry I dissapoint you and wont play there tough I guess stuff would be ok to be the clan leader, and he'll get another player aswell there on my place.
that was all
keep it safe, and far well
wan
( and If I was an ass to some, maybe I had my own reasons, if I was wrong, then maybe they can forget me, tx )
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veni vidi vici
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Dingo
Responsible
Legendary Hero
God of Dark SPAM
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posted October 23, 2003 04:07 AM |
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Man that sucks. I don't really know you but I guess you'll be missed.
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splexx
Known Hero
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posted October 23, 2003 04:27 AM |
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OH..FOR CHRIST'S SAKE...
enuff said....
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted October 23, 2003 04:28 AM |
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Yea but it dont make sense tough.
You try to kill a pack of Knights with 1 hydra & you run with only one knight left & you both disapear.
Why in the blue moon would Wanderer want to cheat & get rid of one little Knight which he can easily kill when he recruits his main again.
I can see if he didnt run but he ran also with one Knight, Now tell me he had a good reason to cheat cause i dont see it.
On the other hand I cant explain it or have i never seen it.
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bpanik2
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posted October 23, 2003 05:07 AM |
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Well how very strange,i kinda agree with acu ermm oh lord did i say that,why-how would you sac ur hydra and cost of rehirring main if it was a cheat,i cant imagine how,it a bit cooky but so is alot of random stuff dble heroes ect,but i cant imagine,this being argued over in main chat,it appears like a simple,glitch too me,i sure wouldnt leave toh over that wanderer,i played u many times never found a problem but if u recall none were randoms uug,bp
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wanderer
Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
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posted October 23, 2003 05:45 AM |
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Quote:
it appears like a simple,glitch too me,i sure wouldnt leave toh over that wanderer,i played u many times never found a problem but if u recall none were randoms uug,bp
see?
on all answers there still is a bit of insurance ( donno if that is correct written , what I ment was that you all are not 100% sure I havent cheated )
maybe it is a glitch bp, but think, I am a respected player ( or was ), I have my prestige, I have a lot of friends, a lot of people know me, played me, can you imagine how I feel?
more that tew is member of he hc, but not only that, he was one of my friends, and that frustrated me a lot, " what would others say about me?". I've always argued with ppls who said that romanians and bulgarians are all cheaters, always tryed to be an example at least for the romanians players.
that is how I would explain it I guess... still I feel really sad and not having the best attitude now... and donno if this explanations were enough for people to understand my point of view.
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veni vidi vici
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tewilligar
Famous Hero
Just another willigar
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posted October 23, 2003 06:04 AM |
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story is a little twisted
wanderer,i never once said you cheated,i said this is strange. but things i do find odd,you never were going to bring it up,as soon as i mentioned it then all of a sudden you decided to admit this bug? why not tell me right away? that's what i would have done. yes i will admit it looked odd but after confering with other vets i decided to dismiss this as a bug, but when you tell me "lets load save" right after i drop (my game booted me when i hit replay turn to see this phenomena again) i have no choice but to think something strange in the air.
as for my comment,you threatened to leave toh. well,i cant stop that. but i never accused you of cheating outright,i just questioned your motives for not telling me right out. your attitude? it sucks. you assumed i thought you were cheating,and threaten to leave. not my problem.
as for honor council,when a member of the council is in a dispute that member must let other members review and decide his/her fate,as i understand. i would never abuse this power to harrass a player into leaving toh.
if the powers that be decide such,remove me now,along with all record of me being in toh. i do this thankless job as a favor to the game and the honorable players in it,not as amusement.
nothing more for me to say. this has gone out of hand enough as it is.
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Celfious
Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
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posted October 23, 2003 06:22 AM |
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The definition of honor is important here.
Wanderer, its up to you if you play more or not.
No one can take true honor from someone but themselves. No one can take away someones rightful pride. It is strange thhat a bug occoured, and even in true light its difficult to see.
Its more thought possible, that not many ppl can hack HOMM these days, cuz the gatways get closed fast. So, if your worried about what other ppl think you can easily prove yourself in no time.
Honer and fun, dont leave that! even if you truly feel like a wanderer your welcome here unless you get caught being dishonerable.
Is it easy for ppl to hack Homm3 online?
(forgive my out of placeness. I would play but my pcs bad)
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barb
Hired Hero
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posted October 23, 2003 06:58 AM |
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who leave?
why?
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wanderer
Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
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posted October 23, 2003 07:07 AM |
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what bug tew?
how on the world was I supposed to know it was a bug?
I havent said you SAID IT BY WORDS that I've cheated, but ya thought that, and when I asked you :" you don't think I cheated .. do you?" you didnt answered at that moment, and after some mins ya told me to explain ya why I havent told ya about it
but I didnt knew exactlly if that really happened or no, was waiting to move youre turn and for my turn to see if they are not there anymore, and I didnt threathened, it was NOT a threat that I will leave toh
a treath would have been if toh was beeing supported by me or so, or donno how to explain it to you so you can understand it better
I just said that I will leave it if you think I've cheated and explained here in 2 posts why and how , all about that honor , remember?
and my attitude? hm what about ures? ya told me that ya'll sumit me loss and exited without even a good bye or without waiting for my answer
who and what attitude had?
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tewilligar
Famous Hero
Just another willigar
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posted October 23, 2003 07:44 AM |
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humz
what bug tew?
how on the world was I supposed to know it was a bug?
well,it wasnt magic,and you say you werent cheating. so it must be a bug? it certainly isnt part of the game..
are you a cheater? i think not.
could you have been more honest from the time the bug was spotted? i think so.
i cannot remember now if it was a game vs splexx or aculias...or mayhaps dmbirdofprey,but i spotted earth book and ogres club unguarded on a random.it wasnt worlds at war,and there were no guards,not even misplaced ones. i immedietly told them and offered them to look at save if they wished. it was np and we restarted a new.
now if i try and say nothing,they look at save later,it looks bad for me. worse,it looks like i was using a trainer.
was i using one? lol heck no. but you can see that if it looks like a cheat,smells like a cheat,well then people will conclude that it is.
are you a cheater then? should you leave toh? i suggest no. i just think the next time this occurs,be more up front with your opponent.
because after all,if it looks honorable,smells honorable,well then people will conclude it is 
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KittenAngel
Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
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posted October 23, 2003 08:36 AM |
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This to me seems like a silly mistake. Wanderer I am sure tew did not mean to make you feel unhonorable, if that is how you felt. This I have seen before, with creatures disappering after battles, seen it ALOT in SOD and AB. Wanderer I hope you do not leave MaH, you are a very honerable player, and I hope this can be resolved quick like and in a hurry. 
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the cat.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted October 23, 2003 09:19 AM |
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I have no problem with you & it seems no one else does, it seems the only person that has a problem with this is yourself.
I see everyone including myself backing you up & i know this game has some glitches even tough I never seen them.
You keep considering your honourable orless you are then you should just say it but i dont think you will because I think nothing happened but was all a mistake & all those losses should be token back & played out.
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zilonite
Famous Hero
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posted October 23, 2003 01:25 PM |
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It was not a bug and not a cheating
At least, so it appears to me. Why? Well, there is one little trick about our old dear homm 3... Dunno how many ppl know it alrdy, but i will try to explain in a few words.
Situation: somebody attacks not upgrade monster stack (in this case black knights) and faces one stack of upgraded dudes (in this case, i guess, one stack of dread knights), too.
The trick: if u will kill all not upgraded and then pick "retreat", the monsters won't be here anymore!
I guess that was what happened here - wanderer killed all black knights, but one dread bastage remained. He retreated and stack disappered.
Zilo
P.S. Where is my quality point? where it is?  j/k...
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thecastrated
Famous Hero
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posted October 23, 2003 03:39 PM |
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Also, I played criss cross once. Then the comp(ally) attacked a monster and the comp hero along with the monster disappeared.
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White_wiz
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 23, 2003 04:02 PM |
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I have seen this bug before , and immediatly asked my opponent if it ever happened to them.
Neither of had so we restarted the game.
I think the issue here is people are 2 jumpy to accuse people of cheating or to quick to take offence . Usually this happens to players who have been wronged at one time or another.
The point is dont let one game or 2 games or 4 or 5 amke ya quit , or same thing with bad players. Make a players I dont play list.
Maybe ya need a break from heroes wanderer , I do think someone who apparently loves this game as much as I do , should just quit because of a few bad experiances .
If you do leave , I wish ya the best of luck in whatever you do , as does the rest of the ww staff . Good Luck Bud on whatever you decide.
Knight_Xavier / White_wiz
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted October 23, 2003 04:38 PM |
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wanderer you tosser!
you still owe me a game and dont even think about quitting before i get it.
Dont let a no good tosser like twelli make you quit TOH, just add him to a do not play list and let things be over there. I dont see why everyone has to be so drastical here lol.
"ahhh you never said that i didnt cheat now ima quit
- uh uhhh... well if you think im bad because of that and im a HC member ima quit too!
-bla bla bla"
you behave like babies lol
so here is what will happend:
A) Wanderer wont quit TOH.
B) Twelli wont quit TOH and stop whining about HC work.
C) Kitten/Hexa/Ravyn will close this thread since its just a toss now.
D) Wanderer will play me in that friggin game he owes me
so there.
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Maximus
Famous Hero
Bronzed God
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posted October 23, 2003 05:28 PM |
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@tew, it was the monkey bug man
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hamsi128
Promising
Supreme Hero
tosser tavern owner
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posted October 23, 2003 06:46 PM |
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you all know nothing... and some of you sucks... tewilligar main point is NOT wanderer cheated ... wanderer didnt say this bug to tewiller when it happens and tew saw all with conservatory.. the fault of wanderer is he didnt say the bug to tewilligar..
And wanderer if its happened vs another player i can post here supporting you or tossing around but in your game vs Henry ihave the chance to learn the truth .... You ''have to'' say this bug immediatly to him rather then continue playing like nothing happened... and like misplaced guards rule when the rest of creatures dissappeared you send your scouts inside of 3. zone in blockbuster template week 2 ...
Bugs , chantage , sabotage , scandals , bg...........
Voila heroes 
p.s. wanderer come to zone you sensitive foo,
Henry, Wtf is tewiller ?
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wanderer
Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
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posted October 23, 2003 06:48 PM |
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uhm yea exactlly how zilo said it happened
there were 5 groups of blacks, and 1 of dreads, 1 dread remained,and after that... ya'll know the story
thanks a lot for youre sincere answers, made me think more about this decision,guess that afterall I'd still have to play you stiven eh?
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