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Lord_Woock
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posted September 06, 2004 04:13 PM |
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My only logical conclusion would be that a homosexual father would not cheat on his or her wife, thus keeping the family stable. Woah. Maybe I'm onto something here. I think I just gave myself possible evidence of the advantage for having homosexuality.
Correction. A homosexual father would not cheat on his ("or her"? what ye smoke brother?) with a woman.
On a more serious note now:
You may see a not cheating father as an advantage to society. Genes, however, go more with evolution than with building a healthy society. Evolution means making random changes and keeping the ones that help the species survive. Homosexuality limits genetic diversion and thus is a disadvantage from an evolutionary point of view.
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Khaelo
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Underwater
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posted September 30, 2004 01:16 AM |
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on suggestion
...more spectral fun. 
Place yourself on this spectrum, straight (S) - gay (G). Again, define terms as you will (desire, behavior, whatever). Also, feel free to stake out a range, if that is more appropriate.
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I am:
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Yup, right in the middle. This is using attraction as the measuring stick. While I have a slight preference for an androgynous look, gender is basically irrelevant. My pickiness centers on other factors.  Therefore, I am neither straight nor gay; the only label left is bisexual (alternatives like "omnisexual" and "pansexual" require more presumption & explaination than they're worth).
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pandora
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posted September 30, 2004 01:35 AM |
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apologies in advance...
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Therefore, I am neither straight nor gay; the only label left is bisexual (alternatives like "omnisexual" and "pansexual" require more presumption & explaination than they're worth)...more spectral fun.
Does pansexual mean you're hot for me Khaelo? 'Cuz I've always thought you were kinda cute..
OK, I'm sorry that was out of place here LOL
I would say I am:
S----------X-------------------------------------------G
Definately my inclination is towards men, I am absolutely drawn to 'the protector' figure, but I couldn't honestly put myself completely to the 'straight side'. I think there is a sexual curiousity level somewhere that doesn't fall into the limits of being either 'gay' or 'straight', tho i suppose what one chooses to do in order to satisfy this curiousity certainly might. (just an effort to get back to topic after my lil interruption )
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Khayman
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posted September 30, 2004 03:40 AM |
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Find Out If You Are Gay
If you are unsure whether or not you are a homosexual, then here is a link to a simple test to help you decide. It is called SnackFoam's Gay Test, and with only a few simple clicks, you can find out your sexuality. (Make sure that your sound is also turned on)
*Warning: PG-13 recommended
http://www.snackfoam.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaytest1.html
I actually stumbled across this test while cruising a sophomoric website right after I finished viewing this thread. I hope that this adds a little humor to this subject, just in case Pandora did not do a good enough job. Personally, I found this more humorous than homophobic, but there may be others who do not see it the same way, since our viewpoints may be somewhat different. Regardless, I hope you enjoy. 
The site I found this on was CollegeHumor.com. There are some other humorous links on the site. Personally, I enjoyed the Girl asks why does everyone hate me and gets responses Live Journal fiasco. Here is that link for those of you too lazy to cut-n-paste
http://www.collegehumor.com
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Asmodean
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Heroine at the weekend.
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posted September 30, 2004 04:07 AM |
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OMG!!!!
LMAO Khayman!!!
Did not expect that!!
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Svarog
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posted October 01, 2004 12:26 AM |
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted October 08, 2004 06:16 PM |
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The Truth
The truth is often difficult to hear. Sometimes you don't want to hear it and sometimes you already know the answer. Whether some people may or may not know the answer, whether some people care or don't care, whether it applies to you or doesn't, the truth will always be the truth no matter what people say, do, or see.
The truth is I was friends with a guy in highschool whom I still fear to this day. He never harmed me or threatened me but I fear this person and the fact that I now learn many people behave as he did.
When I moved to a new city and entered into a new highschool, I wanted to prove to myself that I would work hard and play by the rules. I wanted to achieve sportsman scholarships for playing football. During my sophomore year I was awarded a gold medal for olympic styles weight lifting and I played football for my school. I worked very hard and gained a tremendous amount of self confidence.
While on the team for football I met a guy who had transferred from another school. We played some of the toughest teams in Texas and both he and I struggled our way through some of the most challenging games of our youthful lives. Our team had many coaches. One of the coaches sired me to the gold medal. He was my mentor. I practiced with him three times every day for both weight lifting and football. There was another coach on the team who had coincidentally come from the same school my friend had come from. He had known the guy for a while and had coached him through many games himself, therefore he felt a great deal of relation to the guy(whose name I will not mention).
After playing together on the field and training together at the school and in the weight rooms, I soon saw that the two coaches had developed a rivalry over the two of us. We were often being compared and mistaken for each other(on purpose) so as to instigate an underlying meaning of some sort. I remember one occasion when the entire football team finally convinced the two coaches into placing us in the wrestling ring together. As expected, we were evenly matched and both of us had cheering moments but each coach ended the match saying that they still knew their respective apprentice could win over the other.
Through this, both he and myself became friends and hung out together every day at school, and in the football practices. It wasn't until I began talking with a fellow student sitting in front of me in German class, that I found my comrade/rival was not who I'd thought. In my German class, I met a guy who was friends with him. He began to tell me, before and after class, stories of what he and my rival did after school. He would tell me how they would act as bouncers for a local drug dealer in a run-down part of the city. He said they had fun beating people up who tried to steal their drugs and money.
When I asked my rival about it before school one day, he confirmed it, said it was fun, and that the drug dealer paid them a handful of money for doing the job. I just laughed and ridiculed him for being a low-life. He returned the joke and retorted I was a loser too.
Together, we went on to play some of the most memorable football games in the rain and mud while bleeding from the knuckles. We ate dirt together, got slammed by offensive and defensive plays, and had lingering game-altering wonder plays that inspired hours of story telling long after the game was over. I thought I knew this guy.
Towards the end of school, I was enrolling in parenting and child development classes and he commented that I was "gay" for doing it. I simply told him he would be a poor father if he didn't learn how to care for children. He scoffed and told me "that was a woman's job". I ignored his comments and he ignored mine. It wasn't long after this that he told me what he and his friends would do on friday nights. He began to boast of his gay-bashing exploits at "choice locations". He would describe for me in detail how he and his friends would regularly find notable homosexual hang-outs and beat them to near death until they heard police sirens. I remember this story he told me of how he and his friends found "fags" sitting in a "faggish car". He described how they approached the car with aluminum baseball bats and proceeded to pull the "fags" out of the car while beating them with the bats. He also told how they rendered the car unusable because this was one time when they didn't hear any sirens, so they had plenty of time to "**** things up". I remember being in shock while listening and asking what they did with the people. He told me they left them there "all bloodied up" and didn't know if someone called the police or what. I remember thinking and looking at this guy with horror and amazement at who I had thought this person to be.
I just want people to know that things like this do happen. As horrific, archaic, and barbaric as this may sound, things like this do happen. I hope to always stick up for a homosexual person if I get the chance. I know they are people just as you or I or anyone else and do not deserve to be treated like this.
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted November 04, 2004 07:07 AM |
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Canada: A Civil Rights Battleground
 http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=24886
In many cases, people do what is referred to as "drawing a line in the sand". The problem, it would seem, is what actually defines the 'line'.
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posted November 04, 2004 07:29 PM |
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Outraged and Impressed
This have been one interesting thread to read through. I am impressed, that even though people dislikes the idea of being gay, they still accept other people as they are.
I, myself, am a homosexual. I have known this all my life, like Asmodeus, but I allowed soceity and family to surpress my feelings until I came "out of the closet" in february this year, two weeks before my 20th birthday. At my birtsday, everyone around me knew it.
I live in Copenhagen, in Denmark. I have experienced no hard feelings for my sexuality. Actually, I have only experienced positive things. Waitresses who are more kind than usual. Girlfriends, moved to tears by the fact that I had been so honest with them.
Now, my story differs a little from Asmodeus'. When I was around 14 years old, I had a crush on a girl named Sophia. However, nothing happened, and to this day, I havent been with a woman. I view myself as very homosexual- I fell in love in the beauty of the girl- and I am still able to recognise beauty, no matter if it is male of female. However, I only have interests in sex with men.
Here are some of my opinions on some of the things this thread have been discussing-
First, I dont understand why gay people should get to hell. I am not religious. But if heaven and hell really exist, should a kind hearted gay go to hell? Just because of his sexuality? I view myself as a very good person (Neutral good, if speaking in D&D terms), who would sacrifice everything, including my life, for my loved ones. I fight good courses. Also, I fight for the acceptance of gays.
Religious gays should consider whether or not they really want to fight for the right to marry in a church. Do you really want an institution of narrow minded, old school believers to bless you and your true love? Dont waste your life on people, who hate you and dont understand you. I myself, dont care for getting married. However, it is possible in Denmark for gays to to the city hall and get a registered companionship (I dont know what this is called in true english sorry, you get my point). Isnt this enough? If the church has so much against this, and if the bible declares that such things is wrong, let them keep their marriage and beliefs to themselves.
If I ever should marry, I would marry for love.
About abortion. Yes, of course should gays be able to adobt children! Two fathers can be better than one mother, two mothers can be better than one father. Whats important is to teach that child morale, ethics and how to fare in life. A kid living with homosexual parents doesnt copy this behavior. Just like a kid living with heterosexual parents, doesnt necessarily turn out straight! Kids living with moms and dads doesnt get straight automatically- gays are from all sorts of homes. Rich, poor, fatherless, motherless. I trylu dont know whether or not homosexuality is genetic or social behavior. I wont discuss that.
However, when I see two gays kissing, its one of the most natural things in the world to me. Its love. Let me tell you about love. Two people, as i told my younger brother who is ten years old, can love each other, no matter what gender they are.
There is nothing abnormal about being gay. All gays are not the same. They dont act alike. There are masculine gays, and feminine gays. Gays who are not truly either, like myself. Not all gays have good taste in fashion. I have seen some very hideous gays, and also some very attractive gays, like my boyfriend Same goes for heterosexual men.
I love my boyfriend with all my heart. Is that abnormal? I think more than 10% of the worlds population is gay. But because of pressure, few wants to admit that they are at least bisexual.
The conclusion is
There is nothing abnormal about gays. There is nothing disgusting about gays. I wont flame anyone, but I really dont know why we gays shouldnt be allowed to show our love, in public as well. My boyfriend is scared of such things. Because of the pressure. Hopefully, one day people will realise that sexuality is part of our personality, not ALL of the personality. Open your eyes, and you might discover that gays are actually some of the best friends you can get, since they typically combine the best of the male and female personality traits.
Peace, Aedan
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posted November 07, 2004 02:20 AM |
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...if we dont respond, doesnt mean we dont read
It's always nice to have more gay guys in the gay thread.
You have my full support for all of those rights of yours. I'm sure many other members here feel the same.
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TheAsgard
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posted August 21, 2005 10:22 AM |
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Well I think that it is my time to step in and say my part as fellow homosexual male.
I'd like to let you all know that I am glad that some you have some respect for us and I am Ashamed at those who have no respect fpr as at all, after all we are also human just like the rest of you the only difference being our sexual preferances.
For those of you who think that Homosexuality is some kind of genetic trait, i can tell you that it is complete rubish. It is not something that is passed down the family line like baldness or eye colour. It is something that a person is born with and will discover as they grow and it is not something that is contagious, you cannot catch gayness from associating with gay peoples.
I ask why sould we not be aloud to marry, we are not asking for any special treatment we just want the common rights as those who are Hetrosexual. We should be aloud to express our love to each other through the act of marriage, whether in or out of a church. We are not trying to make a problem of our selves, all we want to do is live our lives with the same basic rights as everyone else.
Know this, i will not stand idely by and let anyone attempt to degrade us in any way. Like all beings of this world we all have basic rights that should be served, we are not a threat.
Quote Savage Garden song Affirmation: "I believe that you can't control of choose your sexuality".
Quote Einestein: "The mind is like an umbrella, it only works when open".
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Conan
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posted August 22, 2005 06:59 PM |
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Hi Asgard,
I find there is a contradiction in what you wrote.
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For those of you who think that Homosexuality is some kind of genetic trait, i can tell you that it is complete rubish.
It is something that a person is born with and will discover as they grow
There are 2 options: either you are born with it or you learn it. The old Nature/nurture opposition.
If you are born with it, it is indeed genetic, as this is the only possibility.
So that's why I don't understand when you say it's not genetic, but you are born with it...
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DragonMaster
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Master of Dragons
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posted August 22, 2005 07:55 PM |
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I'm sick of this discussion.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with gay people.
My uncle being gay(and happily married)
I can say they are no different than heterosexuals.
The fact that gay people can get married here in Holland,
shows that there is a place where they are accepted.
I don't know anyone who broke contact with my uncle because he was gay,
and I feel he is now more welcome everywhere.
In my own surroundings,
my best friend is gay, and another friend is lesbian.
As disappointing as that was(not because I detest them,
but because I had a crush on her.),
I feel I have never had better friends.
I don't have any gay feelings myself,
proving that it isn't copied from your surroundings.
I hope more people feel this way,
and don't let the fact that a person is gay,
hold them back from getting to know them better.
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posted August 22, 2005 09:24 PM |
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Gays
Eh..... I don't understand why it's even an issue, either someone's gay or they aren't. Should anyone realllllly give a S!@#t? The answer is NO!!!! Give it up peopl. Find something else to be bothered about. Go complain about something that is actually under your control. Quit ******** about gays getting married and go raise some money for the homeless. Take all that protest time and adopt a starving child from romania or something.
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Corribus
Hero of Order
The Abyss Staring Back at You
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posted August 24, 2005 11:47 PM |
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Couldn't care less if someone is gay - but I don't need to be told about it either. No, what I really want to know, though, is why did they have to go and steal all the rainbows for themselves?
C.
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TheAsgard
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posted September 03, 2005 01:13 PM |
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Well actually Corribus being a gay man I can tell you that we have not really taken the rainbows, the homosexual community is represented by the colour Purple. People associate us with the rainbow cause we are such colourful people and no different from everyone else.
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coldmystery
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posted September 03, 2005 05:45 PM |
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What??? Purple???
Wait a fricken second...... So If I am an aquarious and my birthstone is essentially purple..... does that mean I'm gay???? Cause.... that would be VERY inconvenient.
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2006 08:40 PM |
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I knew there was another thread on here about it lol.
Took about a yr to find it too.
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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
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posted April 13, 2007 04:24 AM |
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I used to be more in the middle, but there are these two guys at school (who are I don't know, bisexual, homosexual, or even autosexual) both of whom have hit on me all year. It's made me less gay. My personal opinion: I have no problem with guys (or girls) that are gay, I just don't like gay guys.
In other words, I don't like people who go for the whole neon sign that shouts about how gay they are, when in reality they're bi. I have no problem with people who state they are gay and go back to their trig or whatever.
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pomo
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I'd just like to post my opinion about one very common line that is trotted out again and again in discussions like this - which goes something along the lines...
"I'm cool with people being gay if that's what they want, just don't make a big fuss about it and act all gay"
To me this seems to be very blatantly double standards. Do you ever hear gay people making a fuss about hetero people kissing their partners goodbye in public or holding hands?? Of course not. Would it be considered distasteful for someone to try to pick up someone of the opposite sex? Um.... NO. If you don't like being hit on just say so maybe? So why on earth should gay people go and hide their sexuality (and moreover their LOVE for their partner - there is often a tendency to speak of homosexuality only in terms of sex and not relationships) under some stupid biblically-inspired rock?!
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