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lt_hunter
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posted January 05, 2004 01:40 PM |
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HoMM3 Creature Ratings
Well, probably everyone of us encountered at least ONCE a thread in which he\she was asked to say his\her opinions regarding which creatures are the best in Heroes 3 or which is the dream army for heroes 3.
Well anyone wondered what the game designers thought about these creature ratings? Better said, have you ever asked yourself how would the qualify certain creatures, which monsters they considered best etc, etc.???
If things go well, tomorrow I will bring you the game designer's creatures rating, which creatures they considered the best foir their level and which they considered the worst...
Till then I was wondering if any of you has his\her opinoin regarding this (what creature they consider stronger for every level).
Well utnil then farewell...
And don't ask me how do I know, I will tell you tomorrow. Although maybe some of you already know how I managed to find this info.
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Vycka1234
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posted January 05, 2004 03:46 PM |
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well.....
Here goes
1.level best:centaur captains. worst:ummm:gremlins(not upgraded not sure)
2.level best:air elements worst: ( dont know for sure) i say lizardmen they are sooo weak
3.level best:grand elves(maybe) worst: dont know
4.level best:i prefer crusaders(two hits wow what damage)worst:energy elems(if its 4 level i dont know conflux well )
5.level best: easy Mghty gorgons worst: magma elems.
6.level best: dread knight worst: wyverns
7.level best: archanglel(everyone says)worst:hydra
THE BEST:AZURE DRAGON(a dream in my army which will never come true :'(
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Xarfax111
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The last hero standing
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posted January 05, 2004 10:27 PM |
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.... how 3DO developer listed the creatures is already stated in this thread:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?FID=6&TID=8741&pagenumber=5
Greetings,
Xarfax1
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lt_hunter
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 06, 2004 12:46 PM |
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Well this list, Xarfax, is from the TAVERN INFO
Here are the symbols you'll will encounter in the rating system.
Sorry for the bad arrangement , but I think uit would be clear for you to view the attached file. Since I cannot attach a file here, here is a link...
Unfortunately you might be asked to subscrfibe to this forum in order to view the attached file... If so, don;'t view it... unless you feel like subscribing.
http://www.wysards.com/realm/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=655
A- Attack Skill
D- Defense Skill
S- Speed
G- Growth
C- Cost
H- Hitpoints
Dmg - Damage
LEVEL1
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Centaurs 5\3 8\6 28\70 2-3
2. Pikemen 4\5 10\4 28\60 1-3
3. Skeletons 5\4 6\4 30\60 1-3
4. Goblins 4\2 5\5 38\40 1-2
5. Troglodytes 4\3 5\4 35\50 1-3
6. Gnolls 3\5 6\4 30\50 2-3
7. Pixies 2\2 3\7 50\25 1-2
8. Imps 2\3 4\5 38\50 1-2
9. Gremlins 3\3 4\4 32\30 1-2
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Centaur Captains 6\3 10\8 28\90 2-3
2. Halberdiers 6\5 10\5 28\75 2-3
3. Sprites 2\2 3\9 50\30 1-3
4. Gnoll Marauders 4\6 6\5 30\70 2-3
5. Skeleton Warriors 6\6 6\5 30\70 1-3
6. Infernal Trogs 5\4 6\5 35\65 1-3
7. Hobgoblins 5\3 5\7 38\50 1-2
8. Master Gremlins 4\4 4\5 32\40 1-2 -------> Ranged (8 shots)
9. Familiars 4\4 4\7 38\60 1-2
My opinions
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For the non-upgraded version:
1. Centaurs : AGREE - they are faster than pikemen and can be really sueful against
ranged opponents;
2. Pikeman: AGREE - they have the largest amount of HP among non-upgraded lvl 1
monsters and their attack\defense skill are among the best;
3. Skeletons: AGREE - I alwasy considered skeletons among the weakest lvl 1 creatures
but after reviewing their stats compared to the other's stats
I'd say they are not that weak. Only pikeman and centaurs are better;
4. Goblins: DISAGREE - IMO they should deserve to be under the trogs and the gnolls, but
but it seems that the game designers consider speed and cost more
important than attack\defense and hit points.
5. Troglodytes: DISAGREE - they should of been one level higher, just under skeletons;
Plus they have Blind immmunity.
6. Gnolls: AGREE;
7. Pixies: DISAGREE - I think THEY are the weakest creatures in the game (except the pessies);
8. Imps: AGREE;
9. Gremlins: DISAGREE - Pixies should be in their place.
For the upgraded versions:
1. Centaur Cpts: DISAGREE - look at their attack\defense stats and you will
notice that hlaberdiers are better in every field,except speed!
2. Halberdiers: DISAGREE - they should be the strongest upgraded creatures;
3. Sprites: DISAGREE - they may have that 'no-retaliation' ability, but they have the
smallest attack\defense among all lvl1 creatures;
4. Gnoll Marauders: AGREE - though THEY should be on the 3rd place;
5. Skeleton Warriors: AGREE - they have the best attack\defense among lvl 1 creatures
and the only down side is their damage...
6. Infernal Trogs: AGREE;
7. Hobgoblins: DISAGREE - IMO Master Gremlins should take this place, cause they have
the ranged attack;
8. Master Gremlins: DISAGREE;
9. Familiar: AGREE, definetly AGREE!
Other Notes:
- Best attack: Centaur Cpts, Halberdiers and Skeletons(6);
- Best Defense: Gnoll Marauders, Skeleton Warriors(6);
- Best Attack\Defense: Skeleton Warriors(6\6);
- Weakest Attack: Sprites(2);
- Weakest Defense: Sprites(2);
- Weakest Attack\Defense: Sprites(2\2);
- Largest amount of HP: Centaur Cpts & Halberdiers (10 HP);
- Smallest amount of HP: Sprites (3);
- The fastest creature: Sprites (9);
- The most expensive creature: Centaur Captains (90 gold);
- The cheapest: Sprites (30 gc);
LEVEL 2
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Air Elementals 9\9 25\7 12\250 2-8
2. S. Gargoyles 6\6 16\6 22\130 2-3
3. Gogs 6\4 13\4 16\125 2-4 -------> ranged (12)
4. Harpies 6\5 14\6 16\130 1-4
5. Dwarves 6\7 20\3 20\120 2-4
6. Wolf Riders 7\5 10\6 18\100 2-4
7. Archers 6\3 10\4 18\100 2-3 -------> ranged (12)
8. Lizardmen 5\6 14\4 18\110 2-3 -------> ranged (12)
9. Walking Dead 5\5 15\3 16\100 2-3
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Storm El. 9\9 25\8 12\275 2-8 -------> ranged(24 shots)
2. Magogs 7\4 13\6 16\175 2-4 -------> ranged(24)
3. Harpy Hags 6\6 14\9 16\170 1-4
4. Battle Dwarves 7\7 20\5 20\150 2-4
5. Wolf Raiders 8\5 10\8 18\140 3-4
6. O. Gargoyles 7\7 16\9 22\160 2-3
7. Marksmen 6\3 10\6 18\150 2-3 -------> ranged (24)
8. Lizard Warriors 6\8 15\5 18\140 2-5 -------> ranged (24)
9. Zombies 5\5 20\5 16\125 2-3
My opinion
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The lists should look like this IMO:
1. Air El. 1. Storm El.
2. S. Gargoyles 2. O. Gargoyles
3. Lizardmen 3. Harpy Hags
4. Gogs 4. B. dwarves
5. Dwarves 5. Lizard Warriors
6. Harpies 6. Marksmen
7. Wolf Riders 7. Wolf Raiders
8. Walking dead 8. Magogs
9. Archers 9. Zombies
- I think the g. designers considered gogs and harpies waaay more valuable then they really are
and they underestimated Lizard Warriors and Battle Dwarves.
Other notes
- The best attack: Storm El. (9);
- The best defense: Storm El. (9);
- The best attack\defense: Storm El.(9\9);
- The smallest attack: Zmobies (5);
- The smallest defense: Marksmen (3);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Marksmen (6\3);
- The largest amount of HP: Storm El. (25)
- The smalelst amount of HP: Wolf raiders and MArksmen (10);
- The fastest creature: O. Gargoyles and HArpy Hags (9);
- The slowest creatures: Zombies, B. Dwarves and Lizard Warriors (5);
- The most expensive creature: Storm El.;
- The cheapest creature: Zombies;
- The best damage: Storm El.(2-8)
- The worst damage: harpy Hags (1-4)
LEVEL 3
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Hell Hounds 10\6 25\7 13\200 2-7
2. Griffins 8\8 25\6 17\200 3-6
3. Beholders 9\7 22\5 14\250 3-5 -------> ranged (12)
4. Water El. 8\10 30\5 12\300 3-7
5. Serpent Flies 7\9 20\9 16\220 2-5
6. Wights 7\7 18\5 14\200 3-5
7. Stone Golems 7\10 30\3 14\150 4-5
8. Wood Elves 9\5 15\6 14\200 3-5 -------> ranged (24)
9. Orcs 8\4 15\4 14\150 2-5 -------> ranged (24)
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Royal Griffins 9\9 25\9 17\240 3-6
2. Iron Golems 9\10 35\5 14\200 4-5
3. Cerberi 10\8 25\8 13\250 2-7
4. Ice El. 8\10 30\6 12\375 3-7 -----> ranged (24)
5. Evil Eyes 10\8 22\7 14\275 3-5 -----> ranged (24)
6. Grand Elves 9\5 15\7 14\225 3-5 -----> ranged (24)
7. Wraiths 7\7 18\7 14\220 3-5
8. Dragon Flies 8\10 20\13 16\240 2-5
9. Orc Chieftains 8\4 20\5 14\165 2-5 -----> ranged (24)
Well what can you say about this lists? IMO Wraiths\Wights have nothing to do with the
first 7 monsters... Even Orcs are better than them, in my opinion.
And Dragon Flies are definetly, definetly, underestimated...
Other notes:
- The best attack: Cerberi and Evil Eyes (10);
- The best defense: Iron Golems, Ice EL. and Dragon FLies (10);
- The best attack\defense: Iron Golems(9\10);
- The smallest attack: Wraiths (7);
- The smallest defense: Orc Chieftains (4);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Orc Chieftains (8\4);
- The largest amount of HP: Iron Golems (35)
- The smallest amount of HP: G. Elves (15);
- The fastest creature: Dragon Flies (13);
- The slowest creatures: Orc Chieftains and Iron Golems (5);
- The most expensive creature: Ice El. (375) ;
- The cheapest creature: Orc Chieftains (165);
- The best damage:Ice El. (3-7)
- The worst damage: Dragon Flies & Orc Chieftains (2-7)
LEVEL 4
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Magi 11\8 25\5 8\350 7-9 -------> ranged (24)
2. Vampires 10\9 30\6 8\360 5-8
3. Basilisks 11\11 35\5 8\325 6-10
4. Pegasi 9\8 30\8 10\250 5-9
5. Medusas 9\9 25\5 8\300 6-8 -------> ranged (4 SHOTS!)
6. Swordsmen 10\12 35\5 8\300 6-9
7. Demons 10\10 35\5 8\250 7-9
8. Ogres 13\7 40\4 8\300 6-12
9. Fire El. 10\8 35\6 10\350 4-6
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Vampire Lords 10\10 40\9 8\500 5-8
2. Greater Basilisks 12\12 40\7 8\400 6-10
3. Archmagi 12\9 30\7 8\450 7-9 -------> ranged (24)
4. Ogre Magi 13\7 60\5 8\400 6-12
5. Crusaders 12\12 35\6 8\400 7-10
6. Medusa Queens 10\10 30\6 8\330 6-8 -------> ranged (8)
7. Silver Pegasi 9\10 30\12 10\275 5-9
8. Horned Demons 10\10 40\6 8\270 7-9
9. Energy El. 12\8 35\8 10\400 4-6
Tsk, tsk. Magi on the first place in the no-upgraded version? That is weird.
And ogres on almost the LAST place, while the pathetic vampires rest on the
second place? Now that definetly sucks big time and it is weird nevertheless.
In the upgraded version Vampire Lords rule, which is perfectly normal. Greater
Basilisks come second... not bad. But Archamgi should be two positions
further down in the top, IMO.
Other notes:
- The best attack: Ogre Magi (13);
- The best defense: G. Basilisks & Crusaders (12);
- The best attack\defense: G. Basilisks and Crusaders(12\12);
- The smallest attack: Silver Pegasi (9);
- The smallest defense: Ogre Magi (7);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Silver Pegasi (9\10);
- The largest amount of HP: Ogre Magi (60)
- The smalelst amount of HP: Archmagi & medusa Queens & Silver Pegasi (30);
- The fastest creature: Silver PEgasi (12);
- The slowest creatures: Ogre Magi (5);
- The most expensive creature: Vampire Lords (500);
- The cheapest creature: Horned Demons (270) ;
- The best damage: Ogre Magi (6-12)
- The worst damage: Energy El. (4-6)
LEVEL 5
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Rocs 13\11 60\7 6\600 11-15
2. Gorgons 10\14 70\5 6\525 12-16
3. Genies 12\12 40\7 6\550 13-16
4. Liches 13\10 30\6 6\550 11-13 -----> ranged (12)
5. Minotaurs 14\12 50\6 6\500 12-20
6. Pit Fiends 13\13 45\6 6\500 13-17
7. Dendroid Guards 9\12 55\3 6\350 10-14
8. Monks 12\7 30\5 6\400 10-12 -----> ranged (12)
9. Earth El. 10\10 40\4 8\400 4-8
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Pit Lords 13\13 45\7 6\700 13-17
2. T-Birds 13\11 60\11 6\700 11-15
3. Power Liches 13\10 40\7 6\600 11-15 -----> ranged (24) 4. Minotaur Kings 15\15 50\8 6\575 12-20
5. Mighty Gorgons 11\16 70\6 6\600 12-16
6. Master Genies 12\12 40\11 6\600 13-16
7. Dendroid SOldiers 9\12 65\4 6\425 10-14
8. Zealots 12\10 30\7 6\450 10-12 -----> ranged (24)
9. Magma El. 11\11 40\6 8\500 6-10
Well, now what can YOU say about THIS??? I mean, who thought that the MIGHTY gorgons
would come only on place 5, outclassed by minotaur kings, or by power liches???
Hmm I dunno after what criteria the game designers judged the creatures, but I think
speed has something to do with it... And hey - Pit Lords as the best lvl 5 unit???
Not in my wildest dreams did I thought they'd get to be considered that powerful.
Although if we look at their stats carefully you can notice they are a little stronger
than others. But Minotaur Kings have a better Attack\defense and a better speed, HP and damage.
Why weren;t they elected as the best??? Was it becasue of havign no specialty, except positive
morale????
And if you look at the non-upgraded version, you can see genies as being in the top 3 strongest
creatures... Well they alos are kinda suspicious. Their damage is good , but they are
just too weak... in fighting. Whatever, this is what the game designers thought about them.
Maybe our opinions are wrong.
Other notes:
- The best attack: Minotaur Kings (15);
- The best defense: mighty Gorgons (16);
- The best attack\defense: Minotaur Kings (15\15);
- The smallest attack: Dendroid Soldiers (9);
- The smallest defense: Power Liches & Zealots (10);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Dendroid Soldeirs (9\12);
- The largest amount of HP: Mighty Gorgons (70)
- The smalelst amount of HP: Zealots (30);
- The fastest creature: T-Birds & Master GEnies (11);
- The slowest creatures: Dendroid Soldiers (5);
- The most expensive creature: Pit Lords and T-Birds (700);
- The cheapest creature: Dendroid Soldiers(425);
- The best damage: Minotaur Kings (12-20)
- The worst damage: Magma Elemental (6-10)
LEVEL 6
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Black Knights 16\16 120\7 4\1200 15-30
2. Nagas 16\13 110\5 4\1100 20
3. Cavaliers 15\15 100\7 4\1000 15-25
4. Unicorns 15\14 90\7 4\850 18-22
5. Efreets 16\12 90\9 4\900 16-24
6. Psyhic El. 15\13 75\7 4\750 10-20
7. Manticores 15\13 80\7 4\850 14-20
8. Wyverns 14\14 70\7 4\800 14-18
9. Cyclops 15\12 70\6 4\850 16-20 -----> ranged (12)
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Naga Queens 16\13 110\7 4\1600 30
2. Dread Knights 18\18 120\9 4\1500 15-30
3. Champions 16\16 100\9 4\1200 20-25
4. War Unicorns 15\14 110\9 4\950 18-22
5. Magic Elementals 15\13 80\9 4\800 15-25
6. Efreet Sultans 16\14 90\13 4\1100 16-24
7. Scorpicores 16\14 80\11 4\1050 14-20
8. Wyver Monarchs 14\14 70\11 4\1100 18-22
9. Cyclops Kings 17\13 70\8 4\1100 16-20 -----> ranged (24)
Ah finally! It seems that after going through all those levels, the game designers
finally managed to make a fair top 9... or at least 90% fair.
The only thing that bothers me is the fact that Wyvern Monarchs are considered
stronger than Cyclops Kings.. That does not sound like true to me.
Other notes:
- The best attack: Dread Knights (18);
- The best defense: Dread Knights (18);
- The best attack\defense: Dread Knights (18\18);
- The smallest attack: Wyvern Monarchs (14);
- The smallest defense: Naga Queens & Magic EL. & Cyclops Kings (13);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Magic El. & Wyvern Monarchs;
- The largest amount of HP: Dread Knights (120)
- The smalelst amount of HP: Wyvern Monarchs and Cyclops Kings (70);
- The fastest creature: Efreet Sultans (13);
- The slowest creatures: Naga Queens (7);
- The most expensive creature: Naga Queens (1600);
- The cheapest creature: War Unicorns (950);
- The best damage: Naga Queens (30);
- The worst damage: Scorpicores (14-20);
LEVEL 7
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Non-upgraded: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Devils 19\21 160\11 2\2700 30-40 +1 MErcury
2. Angels 20\20 200\12 2\3000 50 +1 Gem
3. Green Dragons 18\18 180\10 2\2400 40-50 +1 Crystal
4. Red Dragons 19\19 180\11 2\2500 40-50 +1 Sulfur
5. Firebirds 18\18 150\15 2\1500 30-40
6. Hydras 16\18 175\5 2\2200 25-45
7. Giants 19\16 150\7 2\2000 40-60 +1 Gem
8. Bone Dragons 17\15 150\9 2\1800 25-50
9. Behemoths 17\17 160\6 2\1500 30-50
Upgraded versions: A\D H\S G\C Dmg
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1. Archangel 30\30 250\18 2\5000 50 +3 Gems
2. Black Dragons 25\25 300\15 2\4000 40-50 +2 Sulfurs
3. Gold Dragons 27\27 250\16 2\4000 40-50 +2 Crystals
4. Titans 24\24 300\11 2\5000 40-60 +2 Gems - ranged(24)
5. Archdevils 26\28 200\17 2\4500 30-40 +2 MErcury
6. Phoenixes 21\18 200\21 2\2000 30-40 +1 Mercury
7. Ancient Behemoths 19\19 300\9 2\3000 30-50 +1 Crystal
8. Chaos Hydras 18\20 250\7 2\3500 25-45 +1 Sulfur
9. Ghost Dragons 19\17 200\14 2\3000 25-50 +1 Mercury
Poor Behemoths... They really got messed up by the NWC team...
Other notes:
- The best attack: Archangel (30);
- The best defense: Archangel (30);
- The best attack\defense: Archangel (30\30);
- The smallest attack: Chaos Hydras (18);
- The smallest defense: GHost Dragons (17);
- The smallest attack\defense value: Ghost Dragons (19\17);
- The largest amount of HP: Titans & Ancient Behemoths & Black Dragons (300);
- The smallest amount of HP: Archdevils & Phoenixes & Ghost Dragons (200);
- The fastest creature: Phoenixes (21);
- The slowest creatures: Chaos Hydra (7);
- The most expensive creature: Archangel (5000 + 3 gems);
- The cheapest creature: Phoenixes (2000 + 1 Mercury);
- The best damage: Archangel (50);
- The worst damage: Chaos Hydras (25-45);
Evaluations:
After the game designers' top 9 of each creature, here is how the TOP 9 Towns would look
1. Castle
2. Tower
3. Rampart
4. Inferno
5. Dungeon
6. Necropolis
7. Conflux
8. Fortress
9. Stronghold
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Vycka1234
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posted January 06, 2004 04:22 PM |
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wow
a big post dont you thing ummmm.... dont remember your name the magma elem guy
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Lich_King
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 06, 2004 06:58 PM |
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Your judging creatures from thier stats are good, but you mustn't forget, that special abilities make them better, then others... 
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lt_hunter
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 07, 2004 07:36 AM |
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Once more - the ratings (the top 9 for each level) was not made by me!
They are the tops made by the NWC game designing team.
Where do I get that info from?
Well remember when you lok i the tavern and you see the best monster section??? Well I wanted to see which creatures are considered the best...
And that magma elemental is lt hunter... *lol* (ex-3DOer)
Although I don't see many of my kind around here
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Vycka1234
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posted January 07, 2004 03:28 PM |
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Quote:
1 level=master gremlins
2 level=strorm elementals
3 level=ice elementals
4 level=crusaders
5 level=zealot
6 level=champions
well all of your ratings are good exept for level 5 mighty gorgons is a lot beter when a zealot. 10 of mighty gorgons kills mighty azure dragon with death stare
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lt_hunter
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 07, 2004 05:29 PM |
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Well correction
1 Mighty gorgon has a small chance of killing on AD from a hit.
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Lord_Woock
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Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted January 07, 2004 06:19 PM |
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Comparing mighty moos and azures on 1vs1 is pointless. If you want a fair fight, compare them cost- or growthwise. (In which Moos trample azures ruthlessly)
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Dingo
Responsible
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God of Dark SPAM
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posted January 08, 2004 06:11 AM |
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Quote:
- The best damage: Archangel (50)
Ummm Titans are 40-60
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Vycka1234
Known Hero
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posted January 08, 2004 07:00 PM |
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well titan does have a chance of doing 40 dmg and archangel does 50 dmg allways BTW AA has biger atack skill. And does biger damage
P.S i like titan better
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted January 12, 2005 01:44 PM |
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Revived.
Any comments to the list above?
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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tigris
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posted April 15, 2005 09:53 AM |
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Edited By: tigris on 16 Apr 2005
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I don't have any comments, i just did something related and didn't know where to put it.Here goes..
Critters sprecialities
Most of HoMM3 creatures have an unique feature called speciality.Some of those are widely known, but some still remain elusive even for more experienced players.I have made some tests to discover how the critters specialities really work.
Cavaliers/Champions-Jousting bonus=the basic ideea is that the further the unit, the greater the attack.for exemple when the attacker’s attack equals the defender’s defense, 1 champion will perform 20-25 dmg on another champion.But this is when they are face to face.With each hex the damage grows by +1.so on grass when attacking another champion at 10 hexes, my champ will deal 30-35 dmg.Also if hasted, the damage inceresses even more.
Archangels- ressurection=the resurection ability is widely known.Most people know that 1 AA can ressurect 100HP.So 1 AA can ressurect 10 pikemen.But when wearing the vial of lifeblood?or when aging comes into play?The AA ability relates strictly to the HP.So if for some reason the HP of a unit lowers or raises, the AA will rerssurect 100HP.(if a pikeman is aged he will have 5 HP, so the AA will ressurect 20 instead of 10)
Dwarves/Battle dwarves-magic resistance=they have 20/40 %magic resistance.Not much to say about that.
Dendroids-binding into place-the affected unit cannot move, but can attack adjacent units.Efect expires when the attacking dendroid stack dies or moves away.
Silver Pegasi-magic damper-increases spell cost with 2
Unicorn/war unicorns-blinding/aura of magic resistance-blinding lasts for 3 rounds(including the round in that was casted).About the aura of magic resistance you can find more from xarfax's oracle
Stone/Iron golems-reduced damage from spells=Spells make half damage on stone and a quarter damage on Iron golems.So 50/ 75% spell reduction.
magi/Arch magi-reduce spell cost by two.Arch magi attack deals full damage to enemies behind walls.No melee penalties
master genie-casts beneficial spells at spell power 6
Familiars-magic channel=After your opponet casts a spell, the familiars will drain an additional 1/5 from that spells cost and give it to you.This means for exemple that exp slow will cost him 6 sp and exp implosion 24.You’ll get 1 sp if he casts slow on you and 4 sp if he implodes.
Pit lords-demon summoning =demon hording was a hot subject for a long time.You can find all info here
Efreets Sultans-fire shield=I have made a lot of testing with this one and it lead me to one conclusion:The fireshield will deal aprox 1/4 from the damage performed by the attacker.here are some values;first number is the attacker's damage done to the efreeti and the second is the damage done by fire shield(12/3;89/18;37/9;62/16;73/18)
Basilkis/Greater basilkis-petrifying attack=the unit cannot move/attack for 3 rounds including the round in which the basilkis attack occurred,take 50% damage, unstoned when attacked.
Wivern monarch-poison=Lowers an attacked units HP by 1/10 per round and lasts for 3 rounds, so in the end it lowers the units life by 30%
Medusa queen-Stone gaze=Same effect as the basilkis attack
Scorpicore-Paralyze=same effect as medusa&basilkis
Zombies-disease=lowers the attack and defense to a unit by 2.Effect lasts for 3 rounds.
Wright-drain life=Each stack of wrights drains 2 sp from the opponent.7 stacks drain 14 sp/round
ogre magi-Can cast bloodlust spell on one ally per round at spell power 6, advanced level.
thunderbird-20% chance for thunderbolt spell which does 10 damage per each thunderbird to target.
ciclops king-can attack seige walls at advanced ballistics level.
behemoth/Ancient behemoth-target is able to use only 60%/20% of its defence when attacked by (ancient) behemoth.
hope this helps
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rychenroller
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 15, 2005 11:15 AM |
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I dunno, for what its worth...
1) Master Grems
2) Wolf Raiders (easily)
3) Grand Elves/Dragon Flies
4) Vamp Lords/Ogre Mage
5) Mighty Moos (a no brainer)
6) Efreet Sultan closely followed by Naga Queen
7) Ancient Behemoth
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patriot_pulsar
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 18, 2005 02:53 PM |
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This is my favourit creatures
Lvl will be sprites but mostly conflux not allowed so it will be Master greamlins. Master gremlins is stronger then u think u will have about 50-100 of them day 1-2 so they are very strong.
Lvl 2 creatures will be Archers from castle they are great
Lvl 3 creatures Grand elfes ofcaurse they are very strong
Lvl 4 will be Vimpires but they not allowed either so probably i will go for Rampard They are very fast and very usefull week 1 and 2
Lvl 5 will be Thunder birds or if it is long game i like dendroids about week 4-6 they are just killing everything Also i hate to fight against mighty gorgons so i think they are strongest.
Lvl 6 will be Nagas They can kill huge army with slow or haste.
Lvl 7 will be Archidewills even i dont play a lot for them but i love fact that enemy do not attack them back
This is what i love more but if u know how to work with creature anyone could be as powerfull as everyotherIt all depend who do u play most.
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LordLazy
Promising
Famous Hero
Wood cleaner
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posted April 18, 2005 04:03 PM |
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lvl1: Centaurs - quanity is neat and good damage/speed + shooter protection week1.
lvl2: Wolf raiders
lvl3: Grand Elves
lvl4: Ogre magi pity theyr so damn expensive huh 
lvl5: mighty moos, pit lords
lvl6: Champions, so many places to upgrade them for free I also love efreet and clops
lvl7: Angels, what were 3do thinking? ressurection on top of those stats?
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Frick
Known Hero
and eternal n00b.
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posted April 19, 2005 01:10 PM |
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Lvl 1: Centaur Captains. They're really fast.
Lvl 2: Wolf Raiders or Marksmen. Wolf's die very fast, but a lot of damage is dealt.
Lvl 3: Grand Elfs. Need to say more?
Lvl 4: Arch Magi. I like them.
Lvl 5: Mighty Moos. They rule the universe.
Lvl 6: Champions or Dread Knights.
Lvl 7: Titan/Archangel or Behemot.
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Munzai
Tavern Dweller
Always coming, never arrives..
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posted April 20, 2005 03:18 PM |
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Helloe all,
Check out this site:
[url]http://io.pinknet.cz/~coyot/homm3/creatures.php[/url]
Shows all creature statistics, have fun readin it (like I did )
Remember, it's for HOMM3 + expansions.
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LordZXZX
Famous Hero
Overfished
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posted April 21, 2005 10:33 AM |
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Perhaps you should make it clickable?
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