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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: ...don't look back in anger...
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Midnight
Midnight


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2004 02:43 AM
Edited By: Midnight on 22 Jan 2004

btw "dead cat bounce" is a stockmarket description for the small buying spree after a stock crashes. H3 is the same, when activity crashes, get a burst of enthusiasm in reaction to it, then this fades away and the decline continues. It might feel fun to blame somebody, but is ignoring the big picture.

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Motorschaaf
Motorschaaf


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2004 03:02 AM

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So if you wanted kitten to be replaced for H3 ToH, who would take her role.. hmmm?  


Maybe Motor does ?


Nope - he doesnt - Cause these Times are definatly over

There were times where i had loved to take this job and i know that togerther with a Great Team invluding ravyn and andi TOH would still rock the floor (might sound arrogant - but its just  the truth lol)

if you need a honorable and hard working volunteer/HC-chair/whatever in H5 in 2 years or so ill be proud to support the Heroes Community with all i got - but managing homm 3 again ? no way. Everquest guild needs all my passion, work and ideas right now so i dont even got the time even if i wanted to .
of course i wont refuse it would be a great challenge to see if i could make this "dead bouncing cat" living again (and yes might sound arrogant again ) - and im quite sure with a goot team (ravyn) its possible.. but right now there is simply no time for leading a tounrey like TOH

which makes me think : would have been great if some little kitty would have admitted that she got not enuff time to do such a job - would have saved the community a lot trouble

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Hexa
Hexa


Responsible
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posted January 23, 2004 11:39 AM

Geez...nice to see your are still the smae MODEST guy motor!@

I think midnights view is more up to speed with reality.
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xx1
xx1


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posted January 23, 2004 01:05 PM


Maybe Motor does ?


Nope - he doesnt - Cause these Times are definatly over


then it is hard for me to understand the purpose of this thread...
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Motorschaaf
Motorschaaf


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2004 02:59 PM

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then it is hard for me to understand the purpose of this thread...


you will understand young jedi..once you think about it again and look what has happened lately

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KittenAngel
KittenAngel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted January 27, 2004 01:37 AM

Yes everyone has made sure that I am no longer around............great job guys!!
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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banned
posted February 01, 2004 02:40 PM

any time

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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted February 01, 2004 06:43 PM

Motor... You gonna put more passion and effort into that homepage of Vidomanis... cause its as ugly as her! haha

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Motorschaaf
Motorschaaf


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
posted February 02, 2004 02:05 AM

@kitten :  like stiven said : "anytime"

@titan : its maybe not the most beautiful page around but its by far the most visited and the onyl page for the german server  that is updated daily - and the best  ITS NOT PINK !!

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jb239
jb239


Famous Hero
posted February 02, 2004 05:55 AM

I dont think Kitten Ruined H3 TOH...

Its just 1 of those things where it cant always be the same... I went from addicted to heroes to not wanting to play it. Put personal life changes, new job, meetin a girl, etc contributed to that, and Im sure the same holds true for many who left heroes 3.

Ill admit I didnt agree with a lot of changes kitten did, but atleast she stuck with it... Its only a game, so you cant expect everything to be great forever.

But im just wandering through..figure I give my 2 cents..didnt read many of the posts cept the main one motor made. oh..and hey everyone! lol
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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted February 02, 2004 01:03 PM

You are right tho JB.
Mandi didnt ruin toh.
SHe just made it diferent then how Ves made his tournament in the past.
She is angered easily & thats what these guys love.
Theres alot of cold hearted people on the internet but heh, what do you expect from people you probally would never meet in your entire life.

I seen some people back stab her in the back all because of a tournament they refused to respect only because it was not Ves doing it AFTER they pretty much got him to say "Screw this crap" after season 5 started.

At least she stood around taking all the negativity & never hid behind the scenes,Unlike some that did, giving the pressure to one single person.
Supporting certain players because they are SOMEHOW TOO COOl not to admit wrong.
It's easy to be friends with someone then Stab them with a Katana blade right through the back over somethang thats not even worth it.
Those people that did was never even there to have any say so basically.
Actually most that replied here really dont have any personal say so, because they were never behind the scenes, it's just easy to blame someone.

Of course on the net you can act the way you want to, regardless of how much of a wuss you are in RL.
Yes Stiven, I actually think you are a puss who cant even make you own mind up, except for following, people who are SO CALLED TOO COOL.
Dont you ever have your own opinionabout any situations here with out using other peoples replies here &  using them in a diferent format.

It's cool tho, most the people in here are a bunch of fakes who try to be somethang they are not on the net, regardless I cant deny thier skills.
Well I can deny Stivens skill in this game .
Especially someone who has not even played since I was new in this game so I find it really hard for you to have the slightest room to talk.

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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted February 02, 2004 03:42 PM

ROFL

aww thats so sweet, here on the white horse in a really shining armor is aculias... Only problem is that he is so small minded so he comes with his head stuck in the horses @ss

pecu... it is creditable that you stand up for a friend of yours but IMO you are just naive. You are in love with kitten and therefor she twists you wherever she wants.. but instead of keep tossing you i will just ask you to take a step back and get some objectivity on this.

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At least she stood around taking all the negativity & never hid behind the scenes,Unlike some that did, giving the pressure to one single person.

i will just respond to this quote because its one of the most silly ones ive seen (as goes for the one that me never stating my opinion lol). Because IMO all kitten did was hide. Except when there were some great news coming up then she stood there in the spotlight and wanted every bit of compliments that were offered. But the problem is just that, that all she wants to do is to be in the spotlight. Because when the great news have been made public about for example a new tourney it isnt as interesting anymore, keeping updates and such (also known as dirtywork) didnt appeal to her. And you cant have a team where one person just want to stand in the spotlight and nothing else, and once the players started to get updated on this there were some horrible personal thing that happend to her.

No wait.. at first it was just something small but then when people like me started to wonder why someone for example had to take a break because of a broken car she had relatives to her getting suddenly ill and such instead. And when people asked her about it she could easily lay the blame on someone else as they were bastards who were mean to her at such a time. And then during that "personal away buisness" you could still see her postings in tavern here at HC while there were no tourney updates at all to talk about.



You are as everyone else entitled to your opinion pecu, but get your facts straight first and then comment things please.

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pandora
pandora


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The Chosen One
posted February 02, 2004 10:07 PM

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At least she stood around taking all the negativity & never hid behind the scenes,Unlike some that did, giving the pressure to one single person.


Acu, not cool... if you have something to say just have out with it instead of the insinuations.

As for the general thread topic, seems futile now doesn't it? Mistakes were made, things got to really sucking and yep - some people were more guilty than others.. but who cares now? Ves has donned the superman cape and is gonna fix it now, so everyone should just look to the future and quit fussin over what "shoulda been"

Lets just hope H5 rocks !



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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted February 02, 2004 10:55 PM

Na I know that Pandora.
Just had to let that out.
Especially to someone who dont even know the facts to get thme straight.
It's cool.
Theres alot of phonies in this place & theres alot that would stick up with others even if they were 100% wrong only because they can or thier too much of good friends.

All good.
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UnknownUser
UnknownUser

Tavern Dweller
posted February 03, 2004 07:37 AM

Long Winded Reply

As someone who has been behind the sceens, and whom has seen more then there fair share of Myths and Heroes Termoil, I thought I should post a few comments. I will not say who I am because I will not make an enemy out of Raven, or Kitten.

First of all it take two to make a tournament run or die. Kitten, was yeah a little on the lazy side, but raven was just as well as Kitten was. I remember there for a while, Raven had "personal issues" every other week or so, and was gone for a week at a time. So blaming Kitten for her son being extreamly ill and in the hospital, to her having gave birth to her son, her car breaking doen, or as some like to say her toaster blowing up, well it just isn't fair. Raven was gone just as much as Kitten was if not longer. I know I have seen it whth my own cunkie little eyes,  

As for Kitten wanting to steal all the spot light I do NOT belive that at all. Kitten is the type of person, that when she hears great news she shares it with everyone, and to me thats one of the things that makes Kitten such a great person. If not for her how much news would you seen on Myths and Heroes about Heroes V? I don't belive you would see any. Kitten has always gave raven a chance to share in the spot light but, Raven chose not too on her own, she was not forced out by Kitten in any way shape or form.

Ok now time for the part I know you all will just thrive over.

I will say Kitten, was not the best in updating. She was never too fond on it, she always told me, and Raven, she would be so happy if all she did was create the web pages (as long as she stayed away from pink she would have done great ). Kitten is also very uptight and very emotional when it comes to crtisizum (and ya know you are Kitten). Do I think that makes her a bad person, hell no I think thats what makes her so sweet and careing. Another one of Kittens flaws was her lack when it came to the multi accounts, I heard so many times how she hated doing it and she wouldn't, so she just left them for Raven to find. That is one one the few things that did piss me off about Kitten.


All in all I do not think all the blame for Myths and Heroes failure needs to be shifted to Kitten, because in all honesty guys, it wasn't all Kitten. Raven had her hand in the cookie jar, as well as Gangrail and I. We all 4 are to blame not just the pussie cat

Well flame away and enjoy
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KittenAngel
KittenAngel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted February 03, 2004 07:40 AM

Acu, it don;t pay to argue no matter what I say or do it is wrong. No matter what I admit to it is wrong. Why bother your just wasting your time typing.
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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted February 03, 2004 01:03 PM

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As someone who has been behind the sceens, and whom has seen more then there fair share of Myths and Heroes Termoil, I thought I should post a few comments. I will not say who I am because I will not make an enemy out of Raven, or Kitten.

First of all it take two to make a tournament run or die. Kitten, was yeah a little on the lazy side, but raven was just as well as Kitten was. I remember there for a while, Raven had "personal issues" every other week or so, and was gone for a week at a time. So blaming Kitten for her son being extreamly ill and in the hospital, to her having gave birth to her son, her car breaking doen, or as some like to say her toaster blowing up, well it just isn't fair. Raven was gone just as much as Kitten was if not longer. I know I have seen it whth my own cunkie little eyes,  

As for Kitten wanting to steal all the spot light I do NOT belive that at all. Kitten is the type of person, that when she hears great news she shares it with everyone, and to me thats one of the things that makes Kitten such a great person. If not for her how much news would you seen on Myths and Heroes about Heroes V? I don't belive you would see any. Kitten has always gave raven a chance to share in the spot light but, Raven chose not too on her own, she was not forced out by Kitten in any way shape or form.

Ok now time for the part I know you all will just thrive over.

I will say Kitten, was not the best in updating. She was never too fond on it, she always told me, and Raven, she would be so happy if all she did was create the web pages (as long as she stayed away from pink she would have done great ). Kitten is also very uptight and very emotional when it comes to crtisizum (and ya know you are Kitten). Do I think that makes her a bad person, hell no I think thats what makes her so sweet and careing. Another one of Kittens flaws was her lack when it came to the multi accounts, I heard so many times how she hated doing it and she wouldn't, so she just left them for Raven to find. That is one one the few things that did piss me off about Kitten.


All in all I do not think all the blame for Myths and Heroes failure needs to be shifted to Kitten, because in all honesty guys, it wasn't all Kitten. Raven had her hand in the cookie jar, as well as Gangrail and I. We all 4 are to blame not just the pussie cat

Well flame away and enjoy


you are 1 of 2 people(thats was easy ) but we'll let others figure it out.

i think you can add a fifth with thier hand caught in the jar....

whether i was right or wrong for my convictions,that matters not. i let these issues boil over onto this board and the zone. i know for a fact it lowered the morale of those who read my frustrations,and that is a contributing factor to some of the vets not playing thier games for mah. i know in turn some got frustrated with me,i cannot blame them. hopefully they will forgive me as i have forgiven them.

for these actions i dont expect vesuvius to want me on the new toh h3 hc. but,if he elects to have me,it would be an honor to once again serve the hommunity,as i have learned plenty from my past "indescretions" .

well,anyways,toss on ladies and gentlemen
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pandora
pandora


Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
posted February 03, 2004 06:21 PM

toss toss toss

If nothing else, this thread has become pretty entertaining!

unknown user... who could it be?

stay tuned....

*lol*
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KittenAngel
KittenAngel


Supreme Hero
Lee's wifey
posted February 04, 2004 09:23 AM
Edited By: KittenAngel on 4 Feb 2004

Guess everyone seems for forget at one time there were for MaH admins. Me Raven Gan and Chubby.......... I know who the poster is and I can assure you it isn't me I don;t type that good LOL.........


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balcough_dragons


Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
posted February 04, 2004 09:58 AM

i think that post was from valky
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