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stormrage
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posted April 04, 2004 04:49 PM |
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Anarchy rules
Anarchy rules all. The world that mankind were born into were full of anarchy. If we think about what the christians have said about us. We were created with free will, and free will=anarchy. But by trying to remove anarchy, we have lost our free will, because laws - that we have made, though that we sometimes don't want them - stop us from doing stuff we want to do. It is all logical. Laws are not good. Except some times. But anarchy rules, because anarchy stands for FREEDOM!
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Lich_King
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posted April 04, 2004 04:55 PM |
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Anarchy stands for Chaos, and chaotic nations fall pretty fast, then those who has more order. Besides anarchy usually tend to make people amorale.
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stormrage
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posted April 04, 2004 05:14 PM |
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Anarchy stands for Chaos, and chaotic nations fall pretty fast, then those who has more order. Besides anarchy usually tend to make people amorale.
That is the reason why we have laws. Freedom=chaos. I thought everybody understood that...
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Lich_King
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posted April 04, 2004 06:04 PM |
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I see you do not understand, that human nature is not suited for "freedom". They do stupid things if they just do whatever they want.
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regnus_khan
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posted April 04, 2004 06:07 PM |
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it seems that every religion (or sect) has its own habits. Strange and stupid! I wouldn't want to be an anarchist! I'm a catholic!
So I advise you Stormrage. but if you want to be... anarchist... so be it. I see you do not understand the purpose of life.
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Lord_Woock
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posted April 04, 2004 06:21 PM |
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If any form of government (or lack thereof) is to exist, it must be organized. This goes for anarchy as well. And since the fundamental rules of anarchy mean no rules or order, it is impossible to keep a small community in anarchy and survive, let alone a country.
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Svarog
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posted April 04, 2004 06:43 PM |
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Edited By: Svarog on 4 Apr 2004
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I see you do not understand, that human nature is not suited for "freedom". They do stupid things if they just do whatever they want.
Sorry, lich. I couldn't disagree more.
As one of my former teachers used to say, freedom and love are essential for the human nature.
On the topic, though, this anarchy thing is really not all that worthless, although my opinion is that it won't work. Historical anarchists (like Emma Goldman for instance), unlike dumb horny punkers, have developed entire theories for this form of "ungovernment". And if you want to make a productive thread out of this, I'd advice you to read something more about it, and not just "Me like anarchy. Let's do.". That's it for now. I might join later, if I see some positive impulse here.
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Wiseman
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posted April 04, 2004 08:05 PM |
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Yes ,humans love freedom.And of the most excersized types of
freedom by humans is the freedom to make rules and boundaries.
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Vadskye91
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posted April 04, 2004 10:24 PM |
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Has anyone ever read the Jungle Book? It seems clear to me that has never worked.
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Dyrvom
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posted April 04, 2004 10:32 PM |
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In an anarchy society the unibomber would still be mailing to people, the DC sniper would still be around, etc. Anthrax would be a common tool of revenge. Why? Because with no laws, there is no Law-enforcement (duh), which means I could canibalize you and rape your mother and no one would have reason to organize against me. Or do you just like anachy because of the cool symbol that zomeone made using a copywrighted legal visual editing program?
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doomnezeu
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posted April 05, 2004 12:48 PM |
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i think that "anarchy" is a concept that appeals to young males (or, why not, females) because of it's "cool" looks and understanding, and because it is against everything society teches us. There is impossible to put togheter two terms like "anarchy" and "society", for the simple fact that society, even in it's earlyest forms, was still based on certain laws that made the term "family" to work.
Anarchy is usually forgotten at the age of 18-20 years old, when you come across with more complicated concepts, like democracy, communism or socialism.
And, furthermore, anarchy should never be mistaken with nihilism (i'm saying this to avoid such a confusion further in this thread).
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Mercy_Severity
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posted April 06, 2004 10:35 PM |
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Anarchy in the modern world = hopeless escapist thought. Even before 20th century the notions been around. In the American Romantiscism period people were day dreaming about living alone in nature and not answering to anyone, and that was 200 years ago. It's a common human desire to want to escape control. Short of living apart from society by yourself in the wilderness somewhere it is a longing that cannot be indulged. Anarchy for a country, or even province is foolishness at its greatest. How would the sanitation, health care, insuarance, road work (and the list goes on) be taken care of in this goverment free soverign entity. Would someone get in their pickup truck and drive around collecting garbage then knock on the door and ask for money from you? Omitted from that list was the biggest hole out of the many in the support of anarchy. Human nature at a whole is self serving and, if unchecked by laws and goverment,would lead to wide spread acts goverments dub rightfully as crimes.If there was no laws chances are you would not be able to make that post saying how great anarchy is because someone would break right into your house and steal your computer in front of you with a gun at hand. All you would be able to do is run off at the mouth to him about freedom and rights. Would you want a police force and laws then? Of corse there are some idiots out there who would say Well if they have a gun I will have a gun. Is that any way to live? Without goverments you have only the rights you can physically defend. As a natural instinct millitia and mafia like groups would alsonaturally materialize to control the country. It would not be long before powerful gangs and millitant groups would control the entire tihng. To advocate 21st century anarchy is to denounce reason.
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phoebeduviels
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posted April 08, 2004 07:41 AM |
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Anarchy stands for Chaos, and chaotic nations fall pretty fast, then those who has more order. Besides anarchy usually tend to make people amorale.
It is the undead...
Darn how about Royal?
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Svarog
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posted April 09, 2004 02:09 PM |
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Mercy, the direction I was waiting for!
Though I agree about the unlikely functioning of anarchy, you're pushing it too hard on anarchists. Personally, I respect these people a lot. You have to have in mind their principal ideal, in order to appreciate them, and that is complete freedom as human's highest goal objective.
To be free from control of any kind is an admirable and significant accoplishment. People usually see anarchists as chaos and destruction loving. But true anarchists actually beleive in the good nature of humans and "hope" that well-being will come spontaniously by itself (the point i disagree about). Imo, humans are corrupted and there will always be those that will go against the tide of peace and harmony. Anarchists say they "will be taken care of" through spountanious grouping of "the good people". But the question is, can these grouping also occur with bad people, that potentially leading to oppression and exploitation.
You mention all those things about how modern society won't function in anarchic non-government. But, I don't think anarchists really want this modern society we're in, and they're willing to sacrafice technology and developement, in search for freedom and happiness. Is this a worthy trade?
So, anarchy - not that craaazy idea.
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Asmodean
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posted April 09, 2004 02:15 PM |
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Anarchy does not rule.
It has no rules.
It sucks.
End of.
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bjorn190
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posted April 09, 2004 07:07 PM |
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We have anarchy now.. except for the laws of nature.
Within that anarchy, the strong will decide the rules. Democracy is really strong, so it wins atm.
People that want anarchy usually just want to be able to do whatever they want without other people being able to do what they want. More like a dictatorship with them as dictator, deciding what to do in the "anarchy".
Those ppl usually never amount to anything though. But I guess its fun to listen to them unless you are hurt by listening to flawed logic and BS.
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Stormrage
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posted April 10, 2004 09:40 AM |
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You're wrong, so wrong....
You are all blind. There are no laws, since the laws founders doesn't follow them. We follow rules that do not exist. Our rules says:
Don't kill soemone - we do, and nobody cares.
Don't steal from someone - we do, and nobody cares.
And so it is. The problem with you is that you know that we all are anarchists, but you have forgotten that you know. It may not seem logical, but it is. You know everything that's right, but you have forgotten that you know that.
Excuse me for grammar mistakes if i made any.
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Asmodean
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posted April 10, 2004 07:31 PM |
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Yes, the animal kingdom is anarchic - no rules, survival of the fittest all of Darwins blah blah blah.
But instead of homo sapiens, aren't we supposed to be human?
Haven't we invented terms like 'humane' because we strive to be more than mere animals?
People make laws, and for the most part follow them. Less than 1% of the world's population are murderers.
And people do care when people are killed.
But we still have that element of animal in us that says - ok thank *insert belief system here* it wasn't me!
We all have our own lives to get on with, and tragic headline news, is still just headline news.
You'll know we're all evolving past anarchy when you hear of a tragedy in another country and feel deep sorrow at the sadness of it all.
Just remember how you felt at 9/11.
EDIT: I just re-read what I posted, and then looked at my sig. The irony of it all! 
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Wolfman
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posted April 12, 2004 01:30 AM |
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Stormrage, I hope you realize anarchy won't work. Just look at the American "Wild" West. That was anarchy...
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Fenix
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posted April 12, 2004 05:41 PM |
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Anarchist could think that his shoes don't give freedom to his feet. He could actualy take them off.
But when he needs to walk over sharp surface, he could then understand that the shoe gives him freedom to cross a difficult path.
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