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Celfious
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posted May 23, 2004 02:18 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 22 May 2004

have you ever saved a bug?

I go out of my way to do the best I can without going to far. I dont really feed them and guard them from humanity, but I am definatly one who has walked a scarey spider out into a front yard..  (plus moths, other things, ect) I mean, why not save it? Its definatly not a wrong thing to do.

Just today someone (probably kids) tore a wing of a fly. That fly never had to crawl in his life, and reguardless its much shorter than outr lives, but for a portion of its life it must suffer because of humans abusing their powers.. abilities.. Mechanical place in the world. Like, you are given the right to rule and you make slaves, those kids had the right to effect a flies life and they ruined it leaving it in quite possibly misery.

Fortunatly it seemed like it wasnt in much pain and was walking fine. I carried him out on my lighter and probably set him off to his death in the grass crawling for the rest of his life. Beter for him than crawling on the floor of the carpeneters union.

My mom never saved a bug but whatever. Have you? (i tortured bugs along time ago, but not often at all)
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Asmodean
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posted May 23, 2004 02:24 AM

In Ireland it's considered bad luck to kill a spider.
All the rest of the bugs are fair game though.
But I don't beleive in killing them.
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Svarog
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posted May 23, 2004 08:56 PM

This may be one of my stupidest posts ever, but I don't care.

I've never tried to save a bug and I feel bad about it. I've tortured and killed bugs for no reason at all (for pure fun), and although it was some years ago, I still feel guilt and compassion. I wish I were a better person and not take their lives, but sometimes flies are so annoying. And we all do that.

Can somebody find me a reasonable justification for killing the bugs? Please, I need to clean my conscience.
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Khaelo
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posted May 23, 2004 10:25 PM

save the bugs?

In my house, bees, wasps, and hornets get Raided very quickly because there is a history of allergy to their stings in the family, and we don't want to discover the re-emergence of that genetic trait the hard way.

Ant and fly infestations are unsanitary and annoying to boot, so we lay out traps and remove whatever attracted them in the first place (so much for the banana-bread bananas...).  It's useless to kill fruitflies or ants individually.  Individual large flies and other assorted flying bugs are shooed out the window or ignored.  Invader orange ladybugs are also shooed, but if they won't leave they are squished because they bite.

Small crawlies, including typical brown house spiders, are ignorable.

Centipedes are evil, disgusting, repulsive beasties.  They bite, they have too many legs, they run fast and are hard to keep an eye on, and they are too big to squish with a paper towel.  If Raid is available, they are ideal targets.  Without Raid, I have captured centipedes under a glass and left them to die of suffocation, starvation, or whatever.  (Raid-covered centipedes are also placed under a glass, so the gods don't eat them).  I don't believe in torturing bugs for fun, but my mental health is more important than the mortal frustration of a trapped centipede.

Basically, bugs die if they pose some sort of threat.  Otherwise, I either let them be or send them on their way outside.
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posted May 23, 2004 10:31 PM

lol..still havent understood if this thread is meant to be taken seriously, is a sarcastic one or is just a mockery to other threads here which celf doesnt think belongs here or something

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posted May 24, 2004 01:03 AM

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I go out of my way to do the best I can without going to far. I dont really feed them and guard them from humanity, but I am definatly one who has walked a scarey spider out into a front yard..  (plus moths, other things, ect) I mean, why not save it? Its definatly not a wrong thing to do.


Sometimes, saving bugs is all that's left to do in this life.. For no reason - other than that you can.

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posted May 24, 2004 01:05 AM

We must kill the bugs.  If we don't kill the bugs, in a few years it will become like StarShip Troopers.
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Athimus_Phaeni
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posted May 24, 2004 03:55 AM

I once read a "tragic" story involving a cockroach. It was something like this:

The guy was fixing his PC at night. His mom, who near him, found a cockroach, screamed and asked him to kill it. He said that he wouldnt because it wouldnt do any damage or bring any problems. So when finished what he was doing, closed the PC box. He tested it, and it was okay.

Next morning when the PC didnt turn on, how it was supposed to do. The guy opened the PC box again, and for his surprise, he found that a cockroach had entered in it and made a short circuit in the mother board. As result he had lost the board and some other parts of his PC.


Now, if you could understand what I was trying to say, you can take your conclusions about killing or not bugs. (Cockroaches are bugs, right?)

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Celfious
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posted May 24, 2004 05:21 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 23 May 2004

ya their bugs.  If theres a cockroach the prob is you should have the house sprayed before eggs are laid. Because of infestations. I never said anything about letting a thick cloud of bugs come to life just because of saving a life force every here and there. When theres possibility of the weak taking over the strong it is sensless to alow such unless the weak brought no harm which bugs do. Even if the harm is merely fear to people and wierdness in your foods. Which could possibly cause disease.

Another reason to spray for roaches is the early symptom of uncontrolable infestation is 1 or 2 of them. They have their place and homes where they obviously dont care about dirts and manuar so they cant live in our houses.

I used to MASH WORMS!! (almost forgot about that). I feel wrong but i hold hardly any guilt cuz I was different then (not tortourous but look at society if they see you smashing worms they dont stop you. thats our world and I'm  not arguing with them)

If today I saw 25 of them in a puddle I would be concerned for their life when a kid comes by or the sun comes out. But I wouldnt run around the street saving eveery worm Isee.  If it was 1 or 2, and I had a second, I would help it out. Thats not disturbing nature. thats being a peaceful part of it

khaleo, thanks for like, i dunno,, kill bugs then. You see a moth flapping in the window kill the moth instead of opening the window? Guiding it out with a piece of paper or hand? If it falls it falls but atleast you gave it a chance rather than what could be unidentified types of wrath.

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Khaelo
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posted May 24, 2004 05:47 AM

addendum

Random stuff:

The entry for today (May 23, 2004) on my 366 Stupidest Things Ever Said calendar is the following "actual newspaper headline" -- COCKROACH SLAIN; HUSBAND BADLY HURT.

I forgot my state bird in the previous post.  Mosquitoes must die.  The only good thing they do is feed bats, and there are plenty more outside and no reason to spare the ones that are inside.    My family set up a bathouse on one of our trees, some bats promptly moved in, and we have had fewer mosquitoes in the backyard since then.  (Then our neighbors accused us of encouraging bats to set up shop in their attic.  ??  Cuz, of course, if you build even a single bathouse, all these random bats just swarm into the area, and there goes the neighborhood...)

If a moth is flapping in the window, why not let it outside?  If it's flapping around the lightbulb, turn off the light and use a paper to send it outside.
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Celfious
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posted May 24, 2004 07:03 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 24 May 2004

bats vs mosquitos? wow.
I learned a similar thing today from a magazine at work. Perhaps I remember corectly, but if you use 1 part (?>vinigar<?) with 1 part water on your car before ice potential weather, ice will not develop on your car.
If snow dose develop I guess that would mean still no need for an ice scraper. Ill try and let you know if I remember X months from now.

on topic i guess.  my intentions of this thread are A: statement: im generaly peace orientated. B: let people know some insight before next time they want to pull a wing of a fly or anything to that nature. C: comradary and stuff. We(?) saved a bug before cool. Thats actualy a character trait thing we have in common
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Ruby
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posted May 25, 2004 04:13 AM

I save bugs all the time because mainly, it's right. If they're like, half dead, then basically it's torture for them so sometimes they have to die I guess, but I never kill them. I adore spiders and all other bugs I can get my hands on. My family hates bugs expecially spiders. My Mom vaccums them up all the time, but I leave some space for them in my room. My mom wont let me get my own pet tarantula but I am shooting for the idea when I move out. Well, saving bugs is a great idea, which I try, if my family don't get to them before me.
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Vadskye91
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posted May 26, 2004 05:20 AM

I don't         bugs, but I have no hesitation in grinding the passing ant under my heel.
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Celfious
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posted May 26, 2004 05:55 AM
Edited By: Celfious on 26 May 2004

just remember this. You dont know wether or not it is wrong or not. You dont know wether or not the bugs feel pain, sadness, ect..

You dont know if they -among animals that we entrap and sever- are beings like you and I. And when you go about smashing an innocent helpless thing, you are probably worse than bullies. But in this case (bugs) the majority of world population dosnt really care.

If the majority cared, you would too. Thats important knowledge. If the majority of people were for something that this earths majority is not, would your mentalities be  the same (bug killer) or not??

Sick.. Humans make up their own minds sometimes by what everyone else thinks.

And in this case its more likely humans are wrong. Murder, I dont care if it is only a bug, there is an actual LIFE force that you smash for no good God given reason. I'm here to tell you since you dont know, its likely your doing something wrong. So do you know or not?

If God Asked you right now, "is it okay to end the life of this creature that has done no harm to you?" what would you TELL HIM???
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posted May 26, 2004 04:09 PM

I was at a picnic once. This brown bug (I had never seen that type of bug before, nor had I seen it after that day) came on our blanket and tried to mess with our food. Everyone said 'Kill the bloody piece of c**p'. I lifted it in my hand, carried it 20 yards away and set it loose. 10 minutes later it appeared again (almost certain it was the same bug). I did exactly as before, except I carried it 20 yards in the opposite direction. The third time I swiftly relieved him of his life, feeling not an ounce of pity.

'nuff said, end of story.
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Svarog
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posted May 27, 2004 04:03 AM

Maybe you should have paid him a taxi or something?

Anyway, the bugs I mostly hate are this one kind of beatlebugs we have here. Their number is respectable and I can't have a day of peace during the summer without at least one entering my room through the window. (and I try, believe me, to keep it as closed as possible, but they outsmart me.) They are aboout the size of an eye or smaller, but they fly! And they are so plumpy and juice, that I disguist even when I have to kill them, because of the "squish" sound they make. They are full of some kind of goo, probably ordinary insect organs, but it's ugly. Also, they are polished, oily and glowing. They remind me of the Zergs (starcraft anyone).
And the worst part is that when they fly they are like pilots whose plane was hit. They can't see where they're going and emloy such a nasty "kamikazee" strategy, that you easily might end up as their next target if you don't crouch.

Bugs like these, you just have to kill them. It's either me or they. One has to go. Not much consideration about the choice, huh?
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posted May 28, 2004 12:50 PM

Naver save bugs. I just give bugs and other things a new home in the toilet.
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posted May 28, 2004 01:06 PM

Since the strongest part's right to abuse the weak is a central part of fascist ideology, I try to be helpful and kind to everything that flies and crawls.

Ok, I've done wy share of bumblebee torture, not to speak of the '95 Ant Massacre, when me and my buddy, after spending 4 hours drowning ants and chopping them with axes, soaked their hill in gasoline and set fire to it.
But apart from that, I don't kill bugs. I've matured. Grown

But no matter what, any bug that's in my room within 20 minutes of my bedtime, and looks as if could bite me and suck my blood (spiders, moths, that kind of things), dies. If I can run and fetch some toilet paper before it crawls out of sight, that is... And mosquitoes. You never know what those bastards are up to...
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and why not.
posted May 29, 2004 12:17 AM

Well, all bugs I kill with the wish to kill it are er, we in Germany say "Mücke", I don't know the english term. Ya know, those little *ssholes who suck your blood^^
When I was ten or 9 or so I "collected" Butterflies. I captured them and killed them and - well it might sound silly but I really do feel sorry for that. Today that idea would never come up to me. Well I wasn't my brother - he filled Natrium and water in Ants' holes.
Today my, well let's say respect to life has grown and I don't kill spiders or bugs or other crawl-creatures any more - pfu, but I still don't like them^^ I think, they are ugly but that's an other topic ö.Ö

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posted May 29, 2004 01:18 AM

Mosquitoes, ticks?

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