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k1ng
Promising
Famous Hero
of Night Elves
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posted August 10, 2005 04:31 PM |
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Quote: Thanks for idea K1ng
anytime . by the way i can't see any new posts on the forge forums. i can't read polish , i'm just following the skecthes and images you guys are working on, but lately there was none. is there a delay or something?
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted August 10, 2005 05:21 PM |
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Ziel is on vacation.
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted August 11, 2005 09:53 PM |
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@Vlaad:
Ya will have sexy naga tank without... ya know without what ;P
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted August 11, 2005 10:30 PM |
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Quote: @Vlaad:
Ya will have sexy naga tank without... ya know without what ;P
No...! You wouldn't...! Say you wouldn't...!
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted August 12, 2005 01:41 PM |
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I did it
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k1ng
Promising
Famous Hero
of Night Elves
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posted August 12, 2005 08:24 PM |
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why don't you post it here, so we can all see it. though i've already seen it on forge forum , it looks nice , keep it up.
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted August 17, 2005 08:23 AM |
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In a recent interview (by peterb), David Mullich recalls his days at 3DO and mentions Forge again. Not too much new info, but I thought it might be interesting for Forge fans:
Quote: Let's be blunt. Heroes IV failed. What went wrong? If you could fix just one thing with the product (technically -- you're not allowed to say "better marketing!") what would it be?
I think that characterizing Heroes IV as a failure is overly harsh. While it wasn't the enormous critical and financial success that was Heroes III (which, I was pleased to recently learn, was named by PC Gamer magazine as the 25th Best Game of All Time), Heroes IV received good reviews and had its share of fans. The challenge with sequels is trying to make a game that has enough of the same things that made its predecessors fun, yet is different enough that it doesn't feel like the same old thing. Sometimes you strike the right balance, and sometimes you don't (George Lucas, anyone?).
However, things did go wrong on the project, and the two biggest problems were the Forge Town and Legends of Might & Magic. Allow me to explain.
New World Computing's two main franchises were the Might & Magic fantasy role-playing game series and its offshoot, the Heroes of Might & Magic fantasy strategy game series, for which I was the development team's leader for five years. Both franchises took place in the same universe, and their respective designers often worked together to make sure that there were no inconsistencies in the two franchises' storylines and to occasionally intertwine the storylines together.
When we got the green light to do a second expansion game to Heroes III, my lead designer, Greg Fulton, decided to build the game around the "forge" -- a machine capable of building weapons that could dominate the world and featured in the recently released Might & Magic 7: For Blood and Honor. His idea was to create a new type of town for the Heroes series, the Forge Town, where there would be a mixture of fantasy and science fiction elements. So, in this town, orcs would be armed with ray guns and minotaurs equipped with jet packs.
Now, while this mix of fantasy and science fiction had always been a staple of the Might & Magic RPG franchise, it was new to the Heroes series and there was an angry backlash from Heroes fans. As soon as we released the preliminary concept art, the fans became so upset, they immediately organized a boycott of the game and New World management ordered us to come up with a new concept for the expansion. One fan was so angry at us for even considering introducing science fiction elements into the Heroes series that he sent a death threat to Greg. Naturally, this rattled my designer, but when our management made light of the threat, Greg was so incensed that he quit his job.
The truth is a bit more complex, as tessraven pointed out:
Quote: Greg quit because of managerial conflict with Mark Caldwell. Part of which was, "One fan was so angry at us for even considering introducing science fiction elements into the Heroes series that he sent a death threat to Greg. Naturally, this rattled my designer, but when our management made light of the threat, Greg was so incensed that he quit his job."
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k1ng
Promising
Famous Hero
of Night Elves
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posted August 17, 2005 08:07 PM |
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someone sent a death threat? better people who work on forge project be careful, lol, just kidding, don't take it seriously.
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted August 17, 2005 08:22 PM |
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Don't play with fire...
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted August 19, 2005 09:56 AM |
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Was this from the original Forge, too?
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bigjocker
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Forgotten but not Forsaken
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posted August 19, 2005 10:28 AM |
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Where did you get that picture from?
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vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted August 19, 2005 10:43 AM |
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Edited By: vlaad on 19 Aug 2005
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Quote: Where did you get that picture from?
No idea, I've had it for years.
I do know it was (supposed to be) for Armageddon's Blade expansion, though - check out the name by quoting my previous post. Perhaps it's just a zoomed detail of a screenshot...?
Acid will tell us for sure.
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zielevitz
Promising
Famous Hero
Resistance is futile!
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posted August 19, 2005 02:30 PM |
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it is a picture (screenshot) from AB intro
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AcidDragon
Promising
Famous Hero
who lost his body somehow...
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posted August 19, 2005 04:14 PM |
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Image
Yep....
The next things are - arrows, sword, gelu, goblins' green blood .
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k1ng
Promising
Famous Hero
of Night Elves
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posted August 20, 2005 05:53 AM |
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Edited By: k1ng on 20 Aug 2005
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when is the Forge Project going be available to download exactly? (just curiosty ) i just can't wait to play it.
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jasbat2030
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 22, 2005 04:17 PM |
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just an idea: make a skyscraper or some type of large building as the grail object for Forge
i know i am new to the "heroes community" but i only wish to help...
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TrangOul
Known Hero
Lord of Darkness
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posted August 22, 2005 04:35 PM |
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I think that Tesla Coil should be a grail.
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted August 22, 2005 04:53 PM |
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@Trang:
Tesla Coil WAS the grail
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TrangOul
Known Hero
Lord of Darkness
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posted August 22, 2005 08:59 PM |
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What do you mean?
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Hellburn
Famous Hero
The efreet
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posted August 23, 2005 08:42 AM |
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If Forge would come up with AB, Tesla Coil would be the grail :]
Ps sorry for my english... i'm still studying
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