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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 23, 2005 08:40 AM |
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Your favourite SKILLS.
Which are your favourite SKILLS?( Choose 8 skills)
Wisdom,Mysticism,Sorcery,Air magic, Earth magic,Water magic,Fire magic,Ballistics,Tactics,Necromancy,Offense,Armorer,Artillery ,Eagle eye,Estates,First Aid,Learning,Luck,Navigation,Pathfinding,Resistance,Scholar,
Scouting,Logistics,Diplomacy,Leadership,Intelligence and Archary.
1)Basic Pathfinding reduces the movement penalty for rough terrain by 25%.
Advanced Pathfinding reduces the movement penalty for rough terrain by 50%.
Expert Pathfinding reduces the movement penalty for rough terrain by 75%.
2)Basic Archery increases the damange done by range attacking creatures by 10%.
Advanced Archery increases the damange done by range attacking creatures by 25%.
Expert Archery increases the damange done by range attacking creatures by 50%.
3)Basic Logistics increases your hero's movement point over land by 10%.
Advanced Logistics increases your hero's movement point over land by 20%.
Expert Logistics increases your hero's movement point over land by 30%.
4)Basic Scouting allows your hero to see 1 square further into the shroud.
Advanced Scouting allows your hero to see 2 square further into the shroud.
Expert Scouting allows your hero to see 3 square further into the shroud.
5)Basic Diplomancy allows you to negotiate with monsters who are weaker than your group and reduces the cost of surrendering by 20%.
Advanced Diplomancy allows you to negotiate with monsters who are weaker than your group and reduces the cost of surrendering by 40%.
Expert Diplomancy allows you to negotiate with monsters who are weaker than your group and reduces the cost of surrendering by 60%.
6)Basic Navigation increases your hero's movement points at sea by 50%.
Advanced Navigation doubles your heros's movement points at sea.
Expert Navigation increases your hero's movement points at sea by 150%.
7)Basic Leadership inceases your hero's troops morale by 1.
Advanced Leadership inceases your hero's troops morale by 2.
Expert Leadership inceases your hero's troops morale by 3.
8)Basic Wisdom allows your hero to learn third level spells.
Advanced Wisdom allows your hero to learn fourth level spells.
Expert Wisdom allows your hero to learn fifith level spells.
9)Basic Mysticism allows your hero to regenerate 2 spell points per day.
Advanced Mysticism allows your hero to regenerate 3 spell points per day.
Expert Mysticism allows your hero to regenerate 4 spell points per day.
10)Basic Luck increases your hero's luck by 1.
Advanced Luck increases your hero's luck by 2.
Expert Luck increases your hero's luck by 3.
11)Basic Ballistics gives control of the catapult to the hero, allowing aimed shots with increased damange.
Advanced Ballistics gives control of the catapult to the hero, allowing two aimed shots with increased damange.
Expert Ballistics gives control of the catapult to the hero, allowing two aimed shots at maximum damange.
12)Basic Eagle Eye gives your hero a 40% chance to learn any 1st ot 2nd level spell used in combat.
Advanced Eagle Eye gives your hero a 50% chance to learn any spell up to 3rd level used in combat.
Expert Eagle Eye gives your hero a 60% chance to learn any spell up to 4th level used in combat.
13)Basic Necromancy allows 10%of the creatures killed in combat to be brought back from the dead as Skeletons.
Advanced Necromancy allows 20%of the creatures killed in combat to be brought back from the dead as Skeletons.
Expert Necromancy allows 30%of the creatures killed in combat to be brought back from the dead as Skeletons.
14)With Estates, a hero contributes 125 gold per day to your cause.
Advanced Estates, a hero contributes 250 gold per day to your cause.
Expert Estates, a hero contributes 500 gold per day to your cause.
15)Basic Fire magic allows your hero to cast Fire spells at reduced cost.
Advanced Fire magic allows your hero to cast Fire spells at reduced cost and increased effectiveness.
Expert Fire magic allows your hero to cast Fire spells at reduced cost and maximum effectiveness.
16)Basic Air magic allows your hero to cast Air spells at reduced cost.
Advanced Air magic allows your hero to cast Air spells at reduced cost and increased effectiveness.
Expert Air magic allows your hero to cast Air spells at reduced cost and maximum effectiveness.
17)Basic Water magic allows your hero to cast Water spells at reduced cost.
Advanced Water magic allows your hero to cast Water spells at reduced cost and increased effectiveness.
Expert Water magic allows your hero to cast Water spells at reduced cost and maximum effectiveness.
18)Basic Earth magic allows your hero to cast Earth spells at reduced cost.
Advanced Earth magic allows your hero to cast Earth spells at reduced cost and increased effectiveness.
Expert Earth magic allows your hero to cast Earth spells at reduced cost and maximum effectiveness.
19)Basic Scholar allows heroes to teach each other 1st and 2nd level spells, effectively trading spells between spell books.
Advanced Scholar allows heroes to teach each other any spells up to 3rd level , effectively trading spells between spell books.
Expert Scholar allows heroes to teach each other any spells up to 4th level , effectively trading spells between spell books.
20)Basic Tactics allows you to rearrange your troops just before combat, within three hex rows of the commanding hero.
Advanced Tactics allows you to rearrange your troops just before combat, within five hex rows of the commanding hero.
Expert Tactics allows you to rearrange your troops just before combat, within seven hex rows of the commanding hero.
21)Basic Artillery gives control of the ballista to the hero, allowing one shot with a 50% chance to inflict double damage.It also less a defending hero control arrow towers during a castle siege.
Advanced Artillery gives control of the ballista to the hero, allowing two shot with a 75% chance to inflict double damage.It also less a defending hero control arrow towers during a castle siege.
Expert Artillery gives control of the ballista to the hero allowing two shots infilct double damges also lets a defending hero control arrow.
22)Basic Learning increase a hero's earned experience by 5%.
Advanced Learning increase a hero's earned experience by 10%.
Expert Learning increase a hero's earned experience by 15%.
23)Basic Offense increases all hand-to-hand damage inflicted by the hero's troops by 10%.
Advanced Offense increases all hand-to-hand damage inflicted by the hero's troops by 20%.
Expert Offense increases all hand-to-hand damage inflicted by the hero's troops by 30%.
24)Basic Armorer reduces all damage inflicted against the hero's troop by 5%.
Advanced Armorer reduces all damage inflicted against the hero's troop by 10%.
Expert Armorer reduces all damage inflicted against the hero's troop by 15%.
25)Basic Intelligence increase a hero's normal maximum spell points by 25%.
Advanced Intelligence increase a hero's normal maximum spell points by 50%.
Expert Intelligence doubles a hero's normal maximum spell points.
26)Basic Sorcery cause a hero's spells to inflict an additional 5% damage in combat.
Advanced Sorcery cause a hero's spells to inflict an additional 10% damage in combat.
Expert Sorcery cause a hero's spells to inflict an additional 15% damage in combat.
27)Basic Resistance endows a hero's troops with 5% magic resistance.
Advanced Resistance endows a hero's troops with 10% magic resistance.
Expert Resistance endows a hero's troops with 20% magic resistance.
28)Basic First Aid gives control of the fist aid tent to the hero, healing 50 points of damage to the first unit of the selected stack.
Advanced First Aid gives control of the fist aid tent to the hero, healing 75 points of damage to the first unit of the selected stack.
Expert First Aid gives control of the fist aid tent to the hero, healing 100 points of damage to the first unit of the selected stack.
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Patashu
Adventuring Hero
I'm sure something goes here..
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posted April 23, 2005 12:25 PM |
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Is this with or without skill enhancement scripts?
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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 23, 2005 12:57 PM |
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Is this with or without skill enhancement scripts?
This skills are from the game.......i am just asking when you play the game which skills you will take.
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Aculias: WHy did Minnie Mouse break up with Mickey?
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greek_god_su...
Famous Hero
Bringer Of Light
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posted April 23, 2005 06:05 PM |
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Orrin with no leadership (market of time) and ogre leader as commander:
1.archery, 2.logistics, 3.armorer, 4.wisdom, 5.earth magic, 6.artillery, 7.offense, 8.ballistics (with script54/55 and with hidden skills activated 9.air/water magic, 10.pathfinding/tactics
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After all, marriage and murder are not too different - one ends your life and the other is a crime
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Aiola
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 23, 2005 06:18 PM |
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My favorite 5 skills:
Wisdom - Essential necessity for me, as I am heavily relying on magic, such as Chain Lightening or Implosion.
Sorcery, Air Magic, Earth Magic
Logistics - cause a hero's turn is quite unsufficient otherwise.
The other 3 skills depend on the map and the race I am playing with. If I'm playing with a necro, I'd be foolish not to have Necromancy, Diplomacy is useful for some large maps, and I use Intelligence when the map is small and doesn't have much artifacts to increase my knowledge.
Then if I have any free slots I get Offense, Armorer, or Archery, whatever comes first...
Well, I am not much of an expert, but I believe those are the best skills for a newbie like me.
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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 24, 2005 08:23 AM |
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Here is one of my strategy way to win a game.
{First Aid,Resistance,Armorer,offense,Artillery,Tactics,
Ballistics and Pathfinding}. You can try yourself. And tell me did it work on you or not.
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Aiola
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 24, 2005 11:10 PM |
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It seems that you are not very fond of any magic skills are you? I suppose you don't fancy the Tower race that much then, either.
I really do not understand those warriors that deny the great magic. Personally I would do anything not to hear that awful scream that men make when they die. I hate losing even a single pikemen or gremlin. And also, that Tactics skill - completely useless if you have Expert Air and can cast Haste, don't u think. Besides, something in its ugly icon make me not want it even if it were the last skill available on Earth( I mean Erathia).
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lionharte
Adventuring Hero
Paladin of Light
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posted April 24, 2005 11:18 PM |
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My favourites are leadership, water magic, offence, and armourer.
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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 25, 2005 01:37 AM |
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I give yop guys 8 choices and you guys have 4 or 5.
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Aculias: WHy did Minnie Mouse break up with Mickey?
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a_rebirthing...
Supreme Hero
with rebirthing power
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posted April 25, 2005 01:58 AM |
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always get wisdom, air, earth, log, armor, offense, intelligence and depending on the map and hero so if i play lyonis i get water, deemer i will get fire and so on
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greek_god_su...
Famous Hero
Bringer Of Light
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posted April 25, 2005 05:49 PM |
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deemer i will get fire and so on
Why fire? Okay, thereīs possibility for armageddon in your mage guild and you have access to black dragons, but I would wait for earth magic as my primary magic school with Deemer. His speciality lies in meteor shower after all.
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Personally I would do anything not to hear that awful scream that men make when they die. I hate losing even a single pikemen or gremlin
With armorer --> less damage taken from physical attacks--> less casualties.
With offense/archery etc --> more damage inflicted to enemy troops --> less enemies left to inflict damage on you.
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And also, that Tactics skill - completely useless if you have Expert Air and can cast Haste, don't u think
Nope. Can you rearrange your troop formations with exp. haste before combat? Tactics is very useful when fighting against fast units (to protect your shooters), dragons (against breath attack), liches and magogs (radius attack) and such. Sometimes, you wonīt even need haste (if not for initiative) if you have tactics cause even your slowest units can reach enemy if positioned in front line.
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It seems that you are not very fond of any magic skills are you?
How comes that? I would never leave earth magic unchosen if I have the opportunity to take it. Of course you need magic too.
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After all, marriage and murder are not too different - one ends your life and the other is a crime
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Aiola
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 25, 2005 07:09 PM |
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It seems that you are not very fond of any magic skills are you?
How comes that? I would never leave earth magic unchosen if I have the opportunity to take it. Of course you need magic too.
I wasn't referring to u, but to Varuas, who did not list any magic skills.
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Personally I would do anything not to hear that awful scream that men make when they die. I hate losing even a single pikemen or gremlin
With armorer --> less damage taken from physical attacks--> less casualties.
With offense/archery etc --> more damage inflicted to enemy troops --> less enemies left to inflict damage on you.
Yes, and I do use those skills as you can see In my previous post. But Magic is also helps a lot to reduce that damage especially if you play with Jeddite and his original specialty.
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And also, that Tactics skill - completely useless if you have Expert Air and can cast Haste, don't u think
Nope. Can you rearrange your troop formations with exp. haste before combat? Tactics is very useful when fighting against fast units (to protect your shooters), dragons (against breath attack), liches and magogs (radius attack) and such. Sometimes, you wonīt even need haste (if not for initiative) if you have tactics cause even your slowest units can reach enemy if positioned in front line.
Well, here you may be right, but 1st of all as I said I am a noob, I do not play online, only against AI, and in most cases Tactics is almost useless against AI. First because you can cast mass haste and wait all your units if playing against slow moving creatures, second because I also have mass slow(since I get expert Air and Earth magic) and third I can always arrange my troops prior to battle not during the battle itself. I don't like moving my army towards the enemy anyways if it is a strong one, I cast slow and wait it to get to the middle of the battlefield so that I can cast additional spell and have 2 attacks with my fastest creatures prior to incurring any damage.
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greek_god_su...
Famous Hero
Bringer Of Light
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posted April 25, 2005 07:24 PM |
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And also, that Tactics skill - completely useless if you have Expert Air and can cast Haste, don't u think
Nope. Can you rearrange your troop formations with exp. haste before combat? Tactics is very useful when fighting against fast units (to protect your shooters), dragons (against breath attack), liches and magogs (radius attack) and such. Sometimes, you wonīt even need haste (if not for initiative) if you have tactics cause even your slowest units can reach enemy if positioned in front line.
Well, here you may be right, but 1st of all as I said I am a noob, I do not play online, only against AI, and in most cases Tactics is almost useless against AI. First because you can cast mass haste and wait all your units if playing against slow moving creatures, second because I also have mass slow(since I get expert Air and Earth magic) and third I can always arrange my troops prior to battle not during the battle itself. I don't like moving my army towards the enemy anyways if it is a strong one, I cast slow and wait it to get to the middle of the battlefield so that I can cast additional spell and have 2 attacks with my fastest creatures prior to incurring any damage.
I didnīt call you noob and I just posted my thoughts as you asked.
And if you wait with all your hasted units, your enemy can cast mass slow on you, no matter if itīs AI or not. Then all you really can do is wait.. Iīm not saying here what you should do, I just say reasons for why I do what I do.
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After all, marriage and murder are not too different - one ends your life and the other is a crime
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Aiola
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 25, 2005 07:35 PM |
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I didn't say you called me a noob, I call myself a noob, I saw a definition in another thread that anyone who has not played against online is a noob, so I qualify.
Perhaps you are right, perhaps Tactics could be a useful skill, and so you can use it as much as you want, but for some reason I just hate it. I don't know why, but I hate it from the fist time I saw its ugly green picture 2 or 3 years ago and I didn't know what it was. I know its stupid to judge a skill by its picture, but I play for pleasure and so I don't care. I I never used Tactics and I never will, and I'm doing great without it.
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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 27, 2005 08:37 AM |
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Ok ppl what kind of skills do you use in differnt Castle.
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greek_god_su...
Famous Hero
Bringer Of Light
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posted April 27, 2005 12:54 PM |
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Eagle eye, mysticism, luck, navigation, estates, necromancy, scouting and scholar. Use these with your main hero and itīs a sure win for every castle.
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After all, marriage and murder are not too different - one ends your life and the other is a crime
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Varuas
Famous Hero
Only The Chosen Will Survive
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posted April 27, 2005 01:41 PM |
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Eagle eye, mysticism, luck, navigation, estates, necromancy, scouting and scholar. Use these with your main hero and itīs a sure win for every castle.
Yes these skill is also useful.
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Aculias: WHy did Minnie Mouse break up with Mickey?
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FireSpirit
Famous Hero
with warm hands
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posted April 27, 2005 04:18 PM |
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Always go for Learning, First Aid and Sorcery too. 
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D-Forge
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 29, 2005 10:50 AM |
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I always go for offence, since +30% dmg is good. Earth magic is another good choice, with all useful spells like slow and of course town portal - town portal isn`t necessary only on S map. Logistics are pretty good - I hate when my hero moves 8-9 steps on grass ;/ It`s good especially for necros with those skellies that slow your army down. Good for rangers with treants and dwarves too. Sorcery with the wog sorcery improvement is wonderful - chests never contain less than 2k gold/1500 exp and you can get 1500 gold from a pile, not mentioning the ability to visit powerup structures from distance. Also, there is a difference between 4 gems and 8 gems in a pile on impossible difficutly - sorcery is a must there. Armorer (but only imprved by wog sript, 15% seems not enough to make it a worthy skill) is also mean. The improved resistance is somewhat imbalanced (the ability to down-grade 1-3 units is too powerful, especially when those mighty titans change into giants and blackies turn into wimpy reds  ), but it works wonders. Water magic seems the best for fortress - to counter slow and other annoying spells like blind. And this lovely prayer  Diplomacy is insanely powerful on XL map, and with the "week of the monsters" cript active, it`s usefull for every map (in the week of black dragons I recruited about 150... ) I like the luck skill, though it`s not that powerful. That`s all, I guess. ;p
And for tactics, I found them useless for several reasons : almost every might hero has them, so in most cases your hero and his hero will nullify their tactic skills. Also, tactics are useless vs. castle sieges and vs. castle/conflux with their guaranteed first strike + mass haste, it`s another useless skill. Of course you can not move your units when facing mass haste strategy, but it makes tactics a wasted skill. ;p And surrounding shooters with melee forces enemy to use something like meteor shower, or burn them all with their dragons.
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MysticEyes
Adventuring Hero
Take care: you'll be blind!
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posted May 10, 2005 03:08 PM |
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My favorite secondary skills are:
Ballistics: at castle is a must (especially if you don't have flying troops!)
Earth Magic: Slow,Antimagic,Shield are important spells
Fire Magic: a must if you want to cast effective Blind, (berseck is already good at basic level!)
Leadership: I want to strike more times or to avoid penalties for using different alignment!
Fortune: Double Damage is good
Pathfinding: I like moving freely
Logistic: I want to move more
wisdom: spells are a must for heroes!
Archery: Range troops will be happy!
They are nine: Fortune or Archery it depends on the map!!
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