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posted November 23, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Edited by Totoro at 18:47, 23 Nov 2008.
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Quote: I will smile when somebody nukes Washington, because it might be bound to happen sometime. Atleast if USA keeps on going as it are doing.
DelDiablo, why don't you try some psychiatric help? That's sick.
Quote: I do not value arsholes life however because of what they are. I do not value killers life. I do not value the life of people fighting for a cause that is negativ.
Instead of wanting them dead would you ever be ready to forgive them if they were to change, change to better people?
Quote: I know you America haters would love to see America have major cities blown up by terrorist but so what? You will hate America no mater what America does.
Only an idiot thinks that America deserves to be blown up. Only an idiot believes that he could righteously judge what everyone deserves.
I'm not saying the Americans are the brightest bunch of people out there. Why they wanted Iraq War? They got shocked by 9/11 and were ready to listen any dude who would use their emotions to get support, just like Germans listened to Hitler after first World War, when things there were upside down.
Why Bush wanted Iraq War? He pursued for profits of his own country instead of commonweal (frikking patriots)
And talks about the freedom of Iraquis is bull****. In the history of USA there have not been a single event where USA would have paid attention to little countries that do not have anything to do with USAs benefits.
And what I've read here, there still seems to be freaking ignorant people who, in my opinion, should just live their lives, feed their families, go to church, shouldn't follow global happenings too much, read only their local papers and never attain any high positions because if they do, they will only cause disaster to society.
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Minion
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posted November 23, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Quote: I still don't understand why other people can't say it... I feel like a lonely duck here
Well I refrained from commenting as I had a hard time replying honestly without breaching the CoC.
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Elodin
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posted November 23, 2008 05:10 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 17:12, 23 Nov 2008.
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Quote: I will smile when somebody nukes Washington, because it might be bound to happen sometime. Atleast if USA keeps on going as it are doing.
What can I say of such evil statement? Why you wish innocents to die?
Quote: How long did you rehearse to print those silly pieces of propaganda into your naive mind?
Thank you for your insult. You hae no counter argument I see.
Quote: Wow, that's a pretty bold statement there... What if Belgium the EU (better example, I suppose) were to say: "we, the nations of the north-atlantic treaty organisaton (with the exception of America for we do not like those guys anymore since they have resources, like corn and rumors of oil) dub thee, American nation, terrorist,
Foolish statement. America is not terrorist nation and did not declare Iraq terrorist nation to steal resources.
Quote: Stop paying so much attention to Limbaugh for just a second.
I am not dittohead. Perhaps you would care to advance arguement of issue rather than personal attack?
I see the America haters have no arguements. I think really this discussions of anything political on this board to be pointless when I find only insults in response to post. Of no interest to me is exchange of personal insults. Please stick to debate issues.
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DagothGares
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posted November 23, 2008 05:36 PM |
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Quote: Foolish statement. America is not terrorist nation and did not declare Iraq terrorist nation to steal resources.
Well, that's true; I am very foolish, but that's beside the point.
and a developping nation has been pretty much crushed... Maybe that could fit in my loose definition of terrorism (and consequently, allow me to wage war on it, according to you)... and off course, it wasn't about resources! Silly me... It was about freedom and justice!
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Quote: graciously given to them by America at price of American lives
dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, right?
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TheDeath
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posted November 23, 2008 05:44 PM |
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Quote: What can I say of such evil statement? Why you wish innocents to die?
Why you wish innocents to die? Oh yes, because they're not americans so it doesn't matter anyway...
Quote: Foolish statement. America is not terrorist nation and did not declare Iraq terrorist nation to steal resources.
Nice claim: "America is not terrorist nation", I can make claims too:
"Iraq is not terrorist nation"
see?
how come your claim has arguments and mine doesn't?
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nocaplato
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posted November 24, 2008 01:19 AM |
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Elodin, I'm sorry but responding to your posts is too tiring for me. I don't feel you represent America in a positive way. I don't feel you listen with any true will toward opposed view points. I feel your arguments are spurious at best. And, childish though it may be, I'm tired of your horrid grammar. If you were not a native English speaker, it wouldn't bother me, but you're supposedly an America and yet you still can't even get basic subject verb number agreement accurate. This is the last time I'll respond to any comment you make in this thread unless you start making at least an honest effort to write well.
Good bye.
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mvassilev
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posted November 24, 2008 01:37 AM |
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Quote: I'm tired of your horrid grammar. If you were not a native English speaker, it wouldn't bother me, but you're supposedly an America
lol irony
Though I agree entirely with the sentiment.
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Moonlith
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posted November 24, 2008 02:17 AM |
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Quote: How long did you rehearse to print those silly pieces of propaganda into your naive mind?
Thank you for your insult. You hae no counter argument I see.
.... I need a counter argument against you citing basic media stories of which you yourself HAVEN'T even bothered to CHECK if they were TRUE?
I am asking you, what reason do you have to believe that propaganda? If you say you blindly trust your government, then calling you naive is not an insult, but a fact.
Quote: Foolish statement. America is not terrorist nation and did not declare Iraq terrorist nation to steal resources.
Bush & CO have spewed more terrorism into the media of their own country than Bin Laden (if he even IS a real threat) has over the entire world.
Unless, of course, you think the definition of "Terrorist" is one who wields an AK-47 and bombs random places to kill innocent people. (I'll give you a hint, that is NOT the definition of "Terrorism").
Quote: I see the America haters have no arguements.
Actually you're the only one who "sees" that, buddy.
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Consis
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Of Ruby
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posted November 24, 2008 02:48 AM |
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I Miss You Guys So Much
I just wanted to say I missed you guys. Hey Doomnezeu and Celfious isn't it amazing how long Heroes Community has been around?
I would like everyone to know that I am going to make a movie for Heroes Community. It's a machinima kind of movie. That's what I do now.
Sorry for being off topic you guys...please continue with your conspiracy theories Mitzah and don't let some guy like binabik push you around....LoL....
binabik I couldnt resist man....I miss you too bro....and all your hippy lovin stories.
You know what else though? (without checking) I do believe Mitzah has been a member longer than any of us. He might be able to claim seniority in this discussion.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted November 24, 2008 04:32 AM |
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Quote: I am close friends with known terrorist William Ayers.
Obama = Terrorist
America = Stupid
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nocaplato
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posted November 24, 2008 04:57 AM |
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Quote: lol irony
Though I agree entirely with the sentiment.
Now I'm blushing!
Not really, a mistake or two in posts, eh, whatevah. Constant bad grammar from a 'native speaker' gets to me eventually.
Don't nobody do none of that no more!
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mvassilev
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posted November 24, 2008 04:59 AM |
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Elodin
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posted November 24, 2008 10:40 AM |
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Quote: Well, that's true; I am very foolish, but that's beside the point.
and a developping nation has been pretty much crushed... Maybe that could fit in my loose definition of terrorism (and consequently, allow me to wage war on it, according to you)... and off course, it wasn't about resources! Silly me... It was about freedom and justice!
I said calling America terrorist nation is foolish. I did not call you fool.
America did not cursh Iraq. America attacked terrorist and is working with Iraqi's to complete driving of terrorist out of Iraq. America also is rebuilding Iraq.
Quote: Why you wish innocents to die? Oh yes, because they're not americans so it doesn't matter anyway...
I am not the one who wished innocents to die. Please be honest in discussions.
Quote: Elodin, I'm sorry but responding to your posts is too tiring for me. I don't feel you represent America in a positive way. I don't feel you listen with any true will toward opposed view points. I feel your arguments are spurious at best. And, childish though it may be, I'm tired of your horrid grammar. If you were not a native English speaker, it wouldn't bother me, but you're supposedly an America and yet you still can't even get basic subject verb number agreement accurate. This is the last time I'll respond to any comment you make in this thread unless you start making at least an honest effort to write well.
Good bye.
Only responses you make is insults. And I never made claim I was American or English to be native language of mine.
Your assumption is all of world must have hatred for America and insult her.
However, as I had pointed out already I feel any discussions of politics in this forum is pointless. America bashers will have closed ears to any statement that is not "America is terrorist", "America sucks" or similar such statement.
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angelito
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posted November 24, 2008 10:54 AM |
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Quote: However, as I had pointed out already I feel any discussions of politics in this forum is pointless. America bashers will have closed ears to any statement that is not "America is terrorist", "America sucks" or similar such statement.
I don't think this is entirely true. Sometimes it is even the opposit. America "lovers" have closed eyes/ears when it comes down to faults which have been made by the US government. So if both parties use all of their senses, a good discussion could take place.
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doomnezeu
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posted November 24, 2008 11:55 AM |
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Quote: However, as I had pointed out already I feel any discussions of politics in this forum is pointless. America bashers will have closed ears to any statement that is not "America is terrorist", "America sucks" or similar such statement.
Why do you only see one side of coin? The other way around works just as good.
Haters will hate, lovers will love, no matter the dispute. Sometimes, in debates, and ESPECIALLY on debates via the Internets where anonymity makes you "famous", feelings tend to weight harder than actual judgement.
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TheDeath
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posted November 24, 2008 02:46 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: Why you wish innocents to die? Oh yes, because they're not americans so it doesn't matter anyway...
I am not the one who wished innocents to die. Please be honest in discussions.
Ok it seems i have to explain it further sorry.
You said that "innocents who died in the invasion of Iraq was just "collateral" damage, it had to be done" or something like that (i.e advocating that getting rid of "terrorists" at the expense of some innocents is acceptable).
del_diablo said to bomb Washington, NOT the entire American population. He wanted to "get rid of the head of state" or "white house" so to speak -- if there would be collateral innocent damage it would be acceptable, not that he wished that, just like you.
So your remarks and his are pretty close
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Elodin
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posted November 24, 2008 06:29 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: Why you wish innocents to die? Oh yes, because they're not americans so it doesn't matter anyway...
I am not the one who wished innocents to die. Please be honest in discussions.
Ok it seems i have to explain it further sorry.
You said that "innocents who died in the invasion of Iraq was just "collateral" damage, it had to be done" or something like that (i.e advocating that getting rid of "terrorists" at the expense of some innocents is acceptable).
del_diablo said to bomb Washington, NOT the entire American population. He wanted to "get rid of the head of state" or "white house" so to speak -- if there would be collateral innocent damage it would be acceptable, not that he wished that, just like you.
So your remarks and his are pretty close
No, that is a lie.
I said "In any war there will be civilian casualty. That is fact of war."
He said he will smile when somebody nukes Washington.
Again, please be honest in discussions.
Quote: Why do you only see one side of coin? The other way around works just as good.
Because the America haters have resulted to only insults rather than advancing discussion points.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 24, 2008 09:07 PM |
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Moderation, please.
Shall I start calling Elodin Reason Hater, Liberal Basher and so on?
I officially protest against the use of these silly polemic generalizations: just because someone doesn't like the course of the actual US government they are not American Haters or Bashers, just as someone who says he doesn't like the stance of the Pope to condoms due to the AIDS situation especially in Africa is not a Christian or Religion hater!
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del_diablo
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posted November 24, 2008 09:36 PM |
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Quote: I will smile when somebody nukes Washington, because it might be bound to happen sometime. Atleast if USA keeps on going as it are doing.
What can I say of such evil statement? Why you wish innocents to die
Lets say it the other way, the only effect and highly likely chance of taking out the goverment is by nuking Washington aka head of state.
I feel like quoting several pages of propaganda just as an argument to justify the bombing. Just look at the last pages of it.....
And all the lies, keeping back information at a heavy rate, ignoring the human rights, bombing the snow out of Iraqi citizens just to take out 1 higher up......
This all in all is my sole reason.
Quote: I said "In any war there will be civilian casualty. That is fact of war."
He said he will smile when somebody nukes Washington.
Again, please be honest in discussions.
Tell me, did you smile when they tok out Sadam? Its that kind of smile.
Quote: Why do you only see one side of coin? The other way around works just as good.
Indeed.
Terrorist and liberalist/freedom fighters. The 2 sides.
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mvassilev
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posted November 24, 2008 10:47 PM |
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Quote: Shall I start calling Elodin Reason Hater, Liberal Basher and so on?
dot dot dot
That's all I'm going to say.
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