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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Morality question
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Russ
Russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted February 16, 2006 11:16 PM

First scenario:
To actually do so would be very idealistic, yet extremely stupid. You can end up in jail for a $100 bill. Unfortunately, our judicial system does not serve justice, it serves the law. As absurd as it may sound, some of the laws criminals have (and they DO have their laws!) make much more sense than some of the court's decisions.

Second scenario:
Hell yea I would catch it!!! Even if it wasn't my boss and someone I don't know. If they allow a $100 bill to just fly away, they don't really deserve it.
Note: on the other hand, if someone I don't know dropped a wallet with his ids and all of his other belongings, I definitely would return it. If my boss who scammed me dropped it, I would most likely "not notice" it.

Third scenario:
There isn't much I can really do in this scenario, so why be upset?
Note: Depending on the circumstances I would probably try to stop the thief otherwise. Why probably and who not always? Well, I know that some people are brave when they TALK about it, so I expect many forum warriors to shine and call me a coward. (Disclaimer - some people may actually be both brave and smart enough to understand the possible consequences of their actions - I really admire those who are truly like that, but most just like to THINK that they are brave or are brave only because they don't fully understand the consequences.)
But, anyways, in the REAL WORLD some theives carry guns and knives. But even if they don't, what if the victim is long gone, but everyone sees you "assault" a thief?

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Binabik
Binabik


Responsible
Legendary Hero
posted February 16, 2006 11:53 PM

@Lacus

The question was just to make a point about costing a lot more to get the money than the value of the money.

But FYI

We have small claims courts in the US as well.  The fee is small and the loser pays the fee. But the fee is only a token and doesn't come close to paying the true costs of the courts.

@Russ

First scenerio.  It's strictly a moral question, not a legal one.  No legal consequences like going to jail.  The question of the money "legally" belonging to you is legitimate, but not the legal ramifications of actually taking it.  So the scenerio asks the question if the boss being there makes a difference, opposed to doing it behind the back.

Third scenerio.  So do you think not chasing the thief encourages more thefts?  By not chasing him, are you contributing to the problem?  Bravery has nothing to do with it, only the moral and social consequences of not chasing him.  The question of chasing the thief is just an analogy to look at taking the money off the desk in a different light.  By not taking it, is it contributing to the problem, by encouraging further bad behavior?  And if so, does that justify taking the money?
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Russ
Russ


Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
posted February 17, 2006 05:49 PM

Quote:
First scenerio. It's strictly a moral question, not a legal one. No legal consequences like going to jail. The question of the money "legally" belonging to you is legitimate, but not the legal ramifications of actually taking it. So the scenerio asks the question if the boss being there makes a difference, opposed to doing it behind the back.
Oh ya, it definitely would make a difference, because then I would also get some satisfaction of telling it to his face in addition to claiming something that's rightfully mine.
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Third scenerio.  So do you think not chasing the thief encourages more thefts?  By not chasing him, are you contributing to the problem?  Bravery has nothing to do with it, only the moral and social consequences of not chasing him.  The question of chasing the thief is just an analogy to look at taking the money off the desk in a different light.  By not taking it, is it contributing to the problem, by encouraging further bad behavior?  And if so, does that justify taking the money?
Well, I guess I did go a little off topic. I thought it could be an interesting perspective to add to the topic.
I didn't catch your analogy here that not chasing the thief (i.e. contributing to him stealing more in the future) is the same as not taking the money off your boss's deck (i.e. contributing to him being an a**hole in the future).

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Xarfax111
Xarfax111


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
posted February 17, 2006 07:12 PM

I would take the money and leave him a message that i took it "Thank you for not forgetting me to pay for my work. I assume this money is for me. If not please let me know".
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