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prometheus
Adventuring Hero
Knight of the Oracle
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posted June 02, 2006 12:22 AM |
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I played one game with Ghasteater in the beta very early. I chained and took his castle while he was away underground. He arose near my castle, broke my chain and took my castle! Now I had to fight on two fronts, defend his troopless castle and try to retake my better one, greatly weakened from our first fight and he got my inferno troops for the third week! My chain was broken. He showed me a weakness in my attack. While I headed to his weakest point, he had gone to mine. I traded positional strength for weakness.
Be careful with chains!
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 02, 2006 12:26 AM |
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It's always good to plan ahead.
Atlernatives.
emphrovise or however you say it lol.
I mean, always have a second plan ahead of the original just in case.
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kreszantas
Adventuring Hero
TOH Coordinator
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posted June 02, 2006 04:04 AM |
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Situational Chaining
Now there are times and places for chaining, for example how are you going to get the troops from the town to the main hero if you do not have summon creatures (and even if you do have it) you better have tons of mana kicking around to build your potential. Now for what I have seen of H5 chaining will be reduced with the above mentioned spell, and the additional cost to hiring more heroes is an additional factor. But I would agree with Ves that the one week rush on a town with 200 master gobs days are over.
I chained heroes on some maps that absolutely required it, and on other maps I did not at all since the map was the dicating factor of how I played.
Jinxer you and I have played many ToH games in the past and you always played a solid game. But my simple reply is and has always been the Mantra of ToH is....
"No rules... Just play the game..."
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Mad_Unicorn
Famous Hero
I am a mean person shame on me
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posted June 02, 2006 08:30 AM |
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It all comes down to logistics on any map. The more you do in a turn the less you have to do later or even worse wont get the chance to do.
I always made a habit of getting atleast 6+ heroes out in H3 if i had the resources, simply cus i wanted to cover the map and know ahead of time whats going on.
In H4 my online career was limited to 5 games? and about 100+ with missus. The deal buster on H4 for me was super heroes.. I much prefered the campaigns rather than the multi.
I haven't been playing much H5 multi just with wife.. so far i think its an overall decent blend of H3 and H4. Chaining will not make or break you but it can help its costly to have many heroes on harder difficulties also sometimes stupid. Yet again i think i prefer the campaigns over multi atleast till we get a friggen map editor jeez.
So to jinxer, "Suck it up princess"  maybe u can make a map that makes chaining so lame call it "Good to Go with a Vengeance"
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Ghasteater
Known Hero
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posted June 02, 2006 08:31 AM |
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Beta have an 20000 gold min on start on heroic diff, and neutrals was broken wery easy...
It was looks like samurai fights, when 2 people run and one falls after first strike...
Now even Vladimir (Necro Hero with Animate) can't destroy almost everything he meet until he have spirit link. In one game I have it at end of 1-st week with lvl 9.
And of course many things depens of map configuratuion...
If we have maps with 1 way portals, "chaining back" on them will be impossible...
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted June 02, 2006 11:09 AM |
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Having a "chain" of heroes and give your army from one to the next, so u r either able to fight with more than 1 hero, or u r able to transport your troops a long distance.
"Summon creature" only takes units from the nearest town though....
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mklthrkngl
Known Hero
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posted June 06, 2006 07:12 AM |
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there's utopia's
there are dragon utopia's, i think the map i saw one in was neighbors, reg. size, also there are elemental treasuries, although we haven't seen some of the old caches from homm3, probably there equivalents are in the game and we'll be seeing them when the map editor comes out, depending on how comprohensive the ME is we may even be able to create them from scratch. do we dare to dream? 
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mklthrkngl
Known Hero
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posted June 06, 2006 07:34 AM |
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chaining very handicapped
i wasn't a big fan of chaining but it had it's place as a strategy in homm3, it also has a place in homm 5. If peeps want to chain a lot they will just creat closed maps with a lotta wealth lying around, map memorizers will also be back. some peeps think random maps are the answer, but they are almost always unfair to one or the other player and you get games decided by the map generated and not by the players playing it.even so that is the players choice in the end, some players like the risk factors and others do not. either way once multi is up and running everybody will start to learn what they like or dislike about the game and how it plays, and as before Jinxer, we will all just end up playing players we like or who we find the most enjoyable to play with. You used to play mostly with Yawacko and Pandora and those guys as they were also not the fondest of chaining back then as I remember, there will most likly be quite a few who shy away from the strategy again this time as well and you will find many a good game to be had that you will enjoy to fullest I'm sure.
So here's to all of us TOH'ers and lets get it on!!!!
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted June 06, 2006 05:26 PM |
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Chaining was in heroes 2 and 3...probably was in heroes 1 but i never got that one. CHAINING IS BACK!!!
my 3 favorite chain songs are
1 chain of fools by ?
2 chain gang by sam cooke
3 ball and chain by janis joplin
feel free to share your favorite chain songs too
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 06, 2006 06:02 PM |
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Uh try Aretha Franklyn  .
How about everybody plays the fool or i pity the fool who eats my food.
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted June 13, 2006 05:17 AM |
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Quote:
Uh try Aretha Franklyn .
How about everybody plays the fool or i pity the fool who eats my food.
Uh..well..those are fool songs...and while i do like fool songs...the subject was chain songs..like "chains"(my babys got me locked up in chains) by the beatles...or Links of the chain by phil ochs the great agitator protest singer....agitator songs have always been so dear to my hear.
But for the homm4 players lets not forget some of the great "un"chain songs ..like "unchain my heart" by ray charles or "unchained melody" by the righteous brothers.
but since you brought it up aculias my 3 favorite fool songs are
1. fools rush in(where wise men never go) ricky nelson
2. fool on the hill(beatles)
3. who will be the fool tonight (bob seeger)
as for your song i pity the fool who eats my food...interesting selection...cant say ive ever heard it..and i thought id heard them all ...i dont suppose you know a few lines...maybe it could jog my memory.
le fey
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Hapkane
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 13, 2006 05:44 AM |
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One time... at S&M camp... this girl was whipping me with rubber chains and...
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Rhodan
Adventuring Hero
from Holland
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posted June 13, 2006 11:32 AM |
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Accept's 'Chain Reaction'
Tired of the routine
- I never ever get it right
I've been lookin' for some action
To divert my attention
Got no rhyme or a reason
Feel the sign, feel the time, the time of the season
Tonight I'm gonna make the grade
Out of the cold nothing can stop
Nothing gonna stop me now - no !
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BigBadVoodoo
A poster
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posted June 21, 2006 08:21 PM |
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what's so bad about chaining? I find it a necessity on the only homm v multi map I've played (peninsula) The neutrals guarding the precious resources underground are just so strong (plus going against casters as neutrals is the most obnoxious thing ever)
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Nebukanezar
Hired Hero
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posted June 21, 2006 09:13 PM |
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I am sorry to ask, but what is this chaining thing?
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted June 22, 2006 03:26 AM |
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I think they mean elemental chains through the homm5 dungeon town
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted June 22, 2006 08:55 AM |
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for anyone who doesnt know chaining is when you take all your armies from a hero that has run out of movement and switch them onto a hero that has lots of movement to advance them farther up the field...and then to another hero...and another hero.....etc etc etc..
le fey
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted June 22, 2006 12:48 PM |
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted June 23, 2006 02:44 AM |
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That chaining doesn't exist in heroes 4 is an illusion.
There are much nastier movement tricks instead. And btw, you can still chain heroes with your creatures.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted June 27, 2006 02:29 PM |
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Well I am sure those new nasty movement tricks will get on Mikes nerves .
Nothing worst then hearing Jinxer complain about somethang worst then chaining 
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