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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted July 26, 2006 01:28 PM |
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I agree , it is a balanced game , but heaven seems to have a little advantage ! And Academy a little disadvantage
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 26, 2006 06:59 PM |
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lol u still think that haven is very good lol academy with master grimlens + golems good combo and academy's heros r great at magic and haven not that much advantge only training and paildans r the worth academy got lvl 7 unit shooter that's great + phantom forces that means academy is goooood
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 26, 2006 07:10 PM |
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Quote: ismail i'm sorry but your posts make me think you are not a very experienced player and I have no interest in playing you ...
u think am not very experienced player?? atleast i dont think that squires r best lvl3 and marksmen best lvl 2 and dont think that haven is superior cause haven is not that strong haven isn't mr invincible and with haven weak at spells no damgeing spells then phantom forces is a trouble for haven
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Klaital
Known Hero
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posted July 26, 2006 08:33 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: ismail i'm sorry but your posts make me think you are not a very experienced player and I have no interest in playing you ...
u think am not very experienced player?? atleast i dont think that squires r best lvl3 and marksmen best lvl 2 and dont think that haven is superior cause haven is not that strong haven isn't mr invincible and with haven weak at spells no damgeing spells then phantom forces is a trouble for haven
A spellpower 1 stone spikes or eldritch arrow is all it takes to kill phantom forces. Also master gremlins + golems combo was pretty much killed in the 1.2 patch as master gremlins can now only repair once per combat.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 26, 2006 08:54 PM |
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Quote: lol u still think that haven is very good lol academy with master grimlens + golems good combo and academy's heros r great at magic and haven not that much advantge only training and paildans r the worth academy got lvl 7 unit shooter that's great + phantom forces that means academy is goooood
You know you have a funny way of expressing your views.
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted July 26, 2006 10:02 PM |
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You seems to talk about units alone and completly forgetting the economical aspect. Academy is so expensive it's ridiculous. 10 ore for every building, and often several gems too.
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 26, 2006 10:39 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: lol u still think that haven is very good lol academy with master grimlens + golems good combo and academy's heros r great at magic and haven not that much advantge only training and paildans r the worth academy got lvl 7 unit shooter that's great + phantom forces that means academy is goooood
You know you have a funny way of expressing your views.
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 26, 2006 10:41 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: ismail i'm sorry but your posts make me think you are not a very experienced player and I have no interest in playing you ...
u think am not very experienced player?? atleast i dont think that squires r best lvl3 and marksmen best lvl 2 and dont think that haven is superior cause haven is not that strong haven isn't mr invincible and with haven weak at spells no damgeing spells then phantom forces is a trouble for haven
A spellpower 1 stone spikes or eldritch arrow is all it takes to kill phantom forces. Also master gremlins + golems combo was pretty much killed in the 1.2 patch as master gremlins can now only repair once per combat.
yeah nearly killed but how about splitting??? and johra doing 2 phantom forces b4 haven hero even think..u must face it phantom forces is big touble for haven and wasting ur turn killing a phantomed stack wont make u bless tho
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 26, 2006 10:43 PM |
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Quote: You seems to talk about units alone and completly forgetting the economical aspect. Academy is so expensive it's ridiculous. 10 ore for every building, and often several gems too.
resurcefulness is a need for academy
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juventas
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 27, 2006 12:50 AM |
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Resourcefulness mitigates the costs, but it doesn't make up for them. Additionally, Artificer costs are also very high, making sure you don't get the full effect of your race-specific ability until mid-late game.
Splitting stacks with gremlins is all good and well, but that means you have to split your golems even more, making them more vulnerable.
Phantom Forces is just a little unbalanced, so I never really consider it. But Jhora with Sorcery still can't match up to the speed of the Light/Dark masteries.
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted July 27, 2006 01:30 AM |
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I'd love to see Academy on top! But it is TOO expensive, and those creatures are not that great... only the archmages are top casters, but as their numbers get bigger , they become less usefull . rajas also are good , but worse than the paladins... and by the time you get the titans, you are already dead probably ... the colossi are sooo crappy
I think Academy might be used as the anti dungeon... counterspelling all over the place , but even that is not a sure thing
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 10:36 AM |
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Quote: I'd love to see Academy on top! But it is TOO expensive, and those creatures are not that great... only the archmages are top casters, but as their numbers get bigger , they become less usefull . rajas also are good , but worse than the paladins... and by the time you get the titans, you are already dead probably ... the colossi are sooo crappy
I think Academy might be used as the anti dungeon... counterspelling all over the place , but even that is not a sure thing
i belive it's anti for anything xept dungeon
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 10:42 AM |
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Quote: I'd love to see Academy on top! But it is TOO expensive, and those creatures are not that great... only the archmages are top casters, but as their numbers get bigger , they become less usefull . rajas also are good , but worse than the paladins... and by the time you get the titans, you are already dead probably ... the colossi are sooo crappy
I think Academy might be used as the anti dungeon... counterspelling all over the place , but even that is not a sure thing
academy's problem against dungeon is that the titans r larg creatures so raiders,,furies and dragons reach them
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted July 27, 2006 11:06 AM |
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yes they can reach , but if the lizards and dragons attack they will be slaugthered by the genies rajas golems and gargoyles ... is it worthed to trade 2 important stacks like those for the titans ? anyway the battle will take place, on most maps, long before the dungeon player gets blackies and the academy player titans!
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 12:24 PM |
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Quote: yes they can reach , but if the lizards and dragons attack they will be slaugthered by the genies rajas golems and gargoyles ... is it worthed to trade 2 important stacks like those for the titans ? anyway the battle will take place, on most maps, long before the dungeon player gets blackies and the academy player titans!
yeah ur right that battle will be long b4 blakies and titans but if they got them no worries about djins furies slaghther the djins..what i mean is after u finish the djins rakshasas titans will be valnurbale espically to blood furies + in final battle u may sacrfice the raiders to defeat 1 strong stack
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TowerLord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted July 27, 2006 12:45 PM |
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Quote: yes they can reach , but if the lizards and dragons attack they will be slaugthered by the genies rajas golems and gargoyles ... is it worthed to trade 2 important stacks like those for the titans ? anyway the battle will take place, on most maps, long before the dungeon player gets blackies and the academy player titans!
yeah ur right that battle will be long b4 blakies and titans but if they got them no worries about djins furies slaghther the djins..what i mean is after u finish the djins rakshasas titans will be valnurbale espically to blood furies + in final battle u may sacrfice the raiders to defeat 1 strong stack
ismail are you for real ?! blood furies will slaugther the djins ????
a lvl 2 creature with 10 growth / week with castle, will slaugther a lvl 5 creature with 8 growth with castle & cave ? you must be playing a different game... the furies are probably the first target for the archmages and the master gremlins. they will get to hit once ... after that they are history ! and if you start with the djins and the rajas (i supose you are trying to take them out with your shooters and furies right ?! ) the academy shooters(supposing there are titans as you said) will kick you so bad you won't even know what hit you !
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 10:13 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: yes they can reach , but if the lizards and dragons attack they will be slaugthered by the genies rajas golems and gargoyles ... is it worthed to trade 2 important stacks like those for the titans ? anyway the battle will take place, on most maps, long before the dungeon player gets blackies and the academy player titans!
yeah ur right that battle will be long b4 blakies and titans but if they got them no worries about djins furies slaghther the djins..what i mean is after u finish the djins rakshasas titans will be valnurbale espically to blood furies + in final battle u may sacrfice the raiders to defeat 1 strong stack
ismail are you for real ?! blood furies will slaugther the djins ????
a lvl 2 creature with 10 growth / week with castle, will slaugther a lvl 5 creature with 8 growth with castle & cave ? you must be playing a different game... the furies are probably the first target for the archmages and the master gremlins. they will get to hit once ... after that they are history ! and if you start with the djins and the rajas (i supose you are trying to take them out with your shooters and furies right ?! ) the academy shooters(supposing there are titans as you said) will kick you so bad you won't even know what hit you !
furies with recrutiment are 12 with sacrfice of 3 then 15 and which unit u get first??? and belive me blood furies kicks djins butts just play right
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 10:16 PM |
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Quote:
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Quote: yes they can reach , but if the lizards and dragons attack they will be slaugthered by the genies rajas golems and gargoyles ... is it worthed to trade 2 important stacks like those for the titans ? anyway the battle will take place, on most maps, long before the dungeon player gets blackies and the academy player titans!
yeah ur right that battle will be long b4 blakies and titans but if they got them no worries about djins furies slaghther the djins..what i mean is after u finish the djins rakshasas titans will be valnurbale espically to blood furies + in final battle u may sacrfice the raiders to defeat 1 strong stack
ismail are you for real ?! blood furies will slaugther the djins ????
a lvl 2 creature with 10 growth / week with castle, will slaugther a lvl 5 creature with 8 growth with castle & cave ? you must be playing a different game... the furies are probably the first target for the archmages and the master gremlins. they will get to hit once ... after that they are history ! and if you start with the djins and the rajas (i supose you are trying to take them out with your shooters and furies right ?! ) the academy shooters(supposing there are titans as you said) will kick you so bad you won't even know what hit you !
beside dungeon can rush academy and academy is expensive and most of the time academy wont get titans against dungeon
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted July 27, 2006 10:21 PM |
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ismail are you for real ?! blood furies will slaugther the djins ????
a lvl 2 creature with 10 growth / week with castle, will slaugther a lvl 5 creature with 8 growth with castle & cave ? you must be playing a different game... the furies are probably the first target for the archmages and the master gremlins. they will get to hit once ... after that they are history ! and if you start with the djins and the rajas (i supose you are trying to take them out with your shooters and furies right ?! ) the academy shooters(supposing there are titans as you said) will kick you so bad you won't even know what hit you !
furies with recrutiment are 12 with sacrfice of 3 then 15 and which unit u get first??? and belive me blood furies kicks djins butts just play right
Yeah, until the Academies' shooters get to attack... Blood Furies are extremely vulnerable to ranged attacks and spells, and if there's one town that's good at that it's Academy.
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted July 27, 2006 11:13 PM |
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archmages dont even think b4 i destroy them with matriarchs +assissans + magics
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