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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Death Knights
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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted October 24, 2007 10:46 AM

What I want to know is why when playing with Markal in his campaign the death knights don't join you (his speciality should make all undead join you - including death knights and mummies - not just the necropolis line-up)
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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted October 24, 2007 01:59 PM

actually, DK's aren't that though for a tier 6 creature. They aren't Paladins that charge into your troops before most of them even had the chance to act, and they have less health too. The only problem is the fixed 25% Death Strike. If it doesn't show up, they are pretty easy, but if it does, you're looking at some big losses.

Also, Pit Spawns can be just as bad with their Blade of Slaughter, if only on low tiers, but guaranteed.
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted October 24, 2007 02:55 PM

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What I want to know is why when playing with Markal in his campaign the death knights don't join you (his speciality should make all undead join you - including death knights and mummies - not just the necropolis line-up)


Because Markal's description is wrong. It should read "All Necropolis units" instead of "All Undead units". Does it work on Mummies? I know they don't occur in the normal HoMM5, and Markal doesn't live to see HoF, but it would be interesting to check that out.

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guarder
guarder


Supreme Hero
posted October 24, 2007 03:02 PM

well the death knights joined me 4out of 4 times. So it maybe becouse i had patch 1.5?
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 24, 2007 03:30 PM

Last I tried they didn't so it could be the patch or you were lucky.
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted October 24, 2007 03:41 PM

They always joined me...I did it under a couple different patches.

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Carcity
Carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted October 30, 2007 10:36 PM

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And so I see that lonely Death Knight galloping towards my 40 Grim Riders (I had two stacks of 40 of these). I see that red sword going up like in a slow movie. Then it slowly lands on my Grim Riders and kills 20 of them!



It happened to me to but i where lucky. they attacked my furies . and i only lost like 10 of them because i had lost many on earlyer battles. and if death knights is a tier 6 creature they should have a little mor hp. I mean. a poison from 40 assasins killed it on one round (included the shoot damage).
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Darkeye
Darkeye


Promising
Famous Hero
of the Deep
posted October 31, 2007 12:17 AM

If you get hold of a stack of Death Knights, it can be a good choice going for soldier luck to double your chances of a death strike. But they are rareably recruitable though ..

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 31, 2007 12:24 AM

The chance is fixed and soldier's luck does not give you double chances. You just get a reroll if you fail the first time but that's still quite lower than twice the chance.
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted October 31, 2007 01:33 AM

Not that far from twice the change.

0.25 change + 0.75*0.25 change = 0.4375 = 44% change

Pretty good I'd say.

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Rip
Rip

Tavern Dweller
posted October 31, 2007 05:01 AM

reminds me of the genies from H2 who also halved a stack, used to split them on all free spots to get extra chances
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watcher83
watcher83


Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
posted October 31, 2007 09:51 AM

Quote:
well the death knights joined me 4out of 4 times. So it maybe becouse i had patch 1.5?

I have 1.5 and 2.1 installed so that's not the reason
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Warlore
Warlore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 12:55 PM
Edited by Warlore at 12:57, 31 Oct 2007.

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If you get hold of a stack of Death Knights, it can be a good choice going for soldier luck to double your chances of a death strike. But they are rareably recruitable though ..


to solve this problem,i have used map editor and putted they recruitable in necropolis military post,do it it is very nice thing.for my expirience,worst time when deadly strike driggered,was against my 40 blackies,15 death knights attacked and deadly strike 20 blackies gone.About neutrals,has anybody noticed,that manticores are improved in TotE,they have higher health,higher damage and if i remember right,they have also higher stats.they do now 30-50 dmg in TotE and in hof they do 15-30
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 31, 2007 01:11 PM

Quote:
Not that far from twice the change.

0.25 change + 0.75*0.25 change = 0.4375 = 44% change

With such a good chance yes but deadly strike does not work with soldier's luck. Thanks for reminding me the formula, I occasionally forget my statistics classes
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Legendary_Hero
Legendary_Hero


Known Hero
Stronghold Warchief
posted October 31, 2007 01:44 PM

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And so I see that lonely Death Knight galloping towards my 40 Grim Riders (I had two stacks of 40 of these). I see that red sword going up like in a slow movie. Then it slowly lands on my Grim Riders and kills 20 of them!



It happened to me to but i where lucky. they attacked my furies . and i only lost like 10 of them because i had lost many on earlyer battles. and if death knights is a tier 6 creature they should have a little mor hp. I mean. a poison from 40 assasins killed it on one round (included the shoot damage).
UNDEAD are not affected by poison

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 01:48 PM

noob zore lol deadly strike never driggers when i have got them
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 31, 2007 02:00 PM

@WarLore
Afaik they are still the same, at least the 3.0 manual has same stats. They always had 30-50 damage.
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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 04:24 PM

it do? i have bad memory
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