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GenieLord
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posted March 05, 2007 07:46 PM |
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Every Level's Weakest Creature
What is the weakest creature of every level?
In my opinion:
1. Conscript
2. Plague Zombie
3. Minotaur Guard
4. Berserker
5. Inquisitor
6. Shadow Matriarch
7. Spectral Dragon
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VokialBG
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posted March 05, 2007 07:54 PM |
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Lv. 1 Peasant
Lv. 2 War Dancer
Lv. 3 Minotaur Guard
Lv. 4 Berserker
Lv. 5 Inquisitor
Lv. 6 Pit Lord
Lv. 7 Spectral Dragon
This will be really changed in GotP the Spectrals will become incorpular!
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TheDeath
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posted March 05, 2007 08:06 PM |
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Are you talking about the whole week population or 1vs1?
VokialBG: I still don't get why you think War dancers are weaker than Horned Demons
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emilsn
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posted March 06, 2007 07:35 AM |
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Yes explain please? is it just our general thoughts? and what is GotP?!?!
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alcibiades
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posted March 06, 2007 09:57 AM |
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GOTP is the "WOG" of Heroes 5 that they are preparing - look in the Modder's Workshop here.
And yes, the formulation of the orignal question is a bit vague.
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What will happen now?
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Doomforge
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posted March 06, 2007 10:57 AM |
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There is no weakest creature per level.
Well, in noobs' language, it will be the one "that killz the leazd per lvl zmg l33t".
But units that have low dmg/week have other uses on battlefield, so no need to wonder which one is worst.
THe only unit that REALLY needs a fix is spectral dragon: too expensive dwelling for what we receive.
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alcibiades
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posted March 06, 2007 11:10 AM |
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Yes, the Spectral Dragon is fine as it is, give and take some 10 HP, but the Dwelling Cost should be completely revorked!
Dragon Graveyuard: 6000 Gold + 20 Wood + 20 Ore + 20 Mercury 6000 Gold + 10 Wood + 10 Ore + 10 Mercury
Dragon Vault: 8000 Gold + 20 Wood + 10 Ore + 15 Mercury 8000 Gold + 10 Wood + 10 Ore + 10 Mercury
Dragon Tombstone: 3000 Gold + 10 Ore + 10 Mercury - seems fair.
But please also make following changes:
Forlorn Hall: 4000 Gold + 10 Wood + 10 Ore + 10 Mercury 4000 Gold + 10 Wood + 10 Ore + 10 Crystal
Forlorn Cathedral: 8000 Gold + 10 Wood + 5 Ore + 10 Mercury + 5 Crystal 8000 Gold + 5 Wood + 5 Ore + 10 Crystal + 5 Mercury
And what about, now we're at it, swapping Vampire Mercury costs with Gems?
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ZombieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 12:53 PM |
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I think the only exception to which is the weakest creature is the Peasant. I really can't see why GL marked the Defender weaker than that fat-pig.
The peasant may be good only because of Tax Payer ability (which is not that great anyway) but NOT on the battlefield.
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GenieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 02:31 PM |
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The question includes the growth, not as 1 vs 1.
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ZombieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 02:40 PM |
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Yes, and the Peasants even with their growth are waaay too useless. (Peasants, not Conscripts)
I mean look at this: the skeleton is cheaper (-3 Gold) and has more HP (+1), more defense (+1), more Initiative (+2) and more Speed (+1).
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GenieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 02:43 PM |
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Quote: Yes, and the Peasants even with their growth are waaay too useless. (Peasants, not Conscripts)
I mean look at this: the skeleton is cheaper (-3 Gold) and has more HP (+1), more defense (+1), more Initiative (+2) and more Speed (+1).
You right, I forgot about them. ><
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Darkeye
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posted March 06, 2007 04:14 PM |
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Before training got nerfed, it was OK with the peasants as they were trained to archers, but now when you only get 20 trainings/week you'll rather go for more expensive tiers later.
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TowerLord
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posted March 06, 2007 04:20 PM |
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Since you have chosen the upgraded versions for all other lvl's I think you should do that for lvl 1 , too .
here goes the list :
Assasin
Plague Zombie or Horned Overseer
Minotaur Guard
Berserker
Djin Sultan (far worse than the inquisitor, which has really nice spells)
Pit Lord
Spectral Dragon
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ZombieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 04:21 PM |
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Quote: Since you have chosen the upgraded versions for all other lvl's I think you should do that for lvl 1 , too .
here goes the list :
Assasin
Plague Zombie or Horned Overseer
Minotaur Guard
Berserker
Djin Sultan (far worse than the inquisitor, which has really nice spells)
Pit Lord
Spectral Dragon
You find Conscripts better than Assassins?
Their poison at least is good against tier 7s and when sieging. Conscripts are too slow and fat
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GenieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 04:31 PM |
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Quote: You find Conscripts better than Assassins?
Their poison at least is good against tier 7s and when sieging. Conscripts are too slow and fat
Zombies are fatter then Peasants.
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ZombieLord
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posted March 06, 2007 04:34 PM |
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Yes but they know how to use this in order to die hard (17 HP!)
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TheDeath
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posted March 06, 2007 04:37 PM |
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Quote: Yes but they know how to use this in order to die hard (17 HP!)
Great, now Zombies become Bruce Willis, or Bruce becomes zombies?
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emilsn
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posted March 06, 2007 04:39 PM |
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Okay, zombies are death peasents both fat, but the zombies just have a bit more gaz in their stomachs ! then peasents that make them fatter!
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TowerLord
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posted March 06, 2007 05:01 PM |
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Assasins are only 14/week and cost 100 gold ... the conscripts are 48 or 49 with farms, and they cost only 30 gold . When something tries to aproach your shooters they can do some serious damage and also they can stand against quite a punch if they are attacked! The Assasins will die on the first hit they take!
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sylvian_prince
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posted March 06, 2007 05:51 PM |
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the spectral are usless but the necro are the strongest without them... lol
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