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GenieLord
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posted March 23, 2007 06:22 PM |
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Third World War?
This morning Iran kidnapped 15 british soldiers, while they were doing formal activity of guarding the border between Iraq and Iran. Anyway, as some of you probably know, this is the way that wars start.
Many huge wars started like that. Just for example, the second Lebanon war started just like that, after two Israeli Soldiers kidnapped by the Hizballa, 8 months ago.
I'm sure that Iran won't do this kind of thing without a specific purpose. And now, Iran has probably already got nuclar weapons.
I don't know where do you live, and what does it mean to you, but as Israeli, I'm a bit afraid.
Ahmadi-Jad, the prime minister of Iran, said things like: "Israel should be deleted out of the map".
Mabey he's just talking, but if Iran has nuclar weapons, we are in great danger.
Anyway, Israel never threated to use its nuclar weapons, and probably won't... I'm just glad we have it.
Well, nuclar wars might do only bad things. I hope this kind of situation will never come...
I have no idea what's Iran's plan. They can do anything.
Usually, they'll try to do the unexpected thing.
Someday, people might say:
"Oh, do you remember the day that Iran kidnapped 15 british soldiers?
You know, when Tel-Aviv was still extant".
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posted March 23, 2007 06:36 PM |
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Someday, people might say:
"Oh, do you remember the day that Iran kidnapped 15 british soldiers?
You know, when Tel-Aviv was still exsist".
I hope people won't say that  Being an Israeli too, I'm also afraid of what can happen. While being in the US while the Second Lebbanon War happened, I don't really know what it's like to be in a war... Lets just hope for the best.
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posted March 23, 2007 06:47 PM |
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Anyway, Israel never threated to use its nuclar weapons, and probably won't... I'm just glad we have it.
Shhhh!!!
We don't have nothing except a textile factory...
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GenieLord
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posted March 23, 2007 06:56 PM |
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Just another tiny thing:
Someday we'll fight agaisnt Suria again. They just want the Golan-something we won't give them.
They might attack us in the third world war. A perfect timing for them, while we are busy with fighting againts other countries.
My guess how it's going to happen:
1. USA will attack Iran.
2. War beween Iran and USA+Israel+UK+Mabey France.
3. War beween Sounth Korea and North Korea (South with USA and north with Iran)
4. War between Israel and Hizballa+Mabey Suria (Hizballa is from Iran, perfect opportunity to attack us)
Another option:
USA will attack Iran, will conquer it, and stay there for a long time, becuase of internal objection to the conquest.
Like what has happened in Iraq.
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GenieLord
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posted March 23, 2007 06:59 PM |
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Anyway, Israel never threated to use its nuclar weapons, and probably won't... I'm just glad we have it.
Shhhh!!!
We don't have nothing except a textile factory...
ROFL! 
It's not textile, it's a factory of Bamba.
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posted March 23, 2007 08:09 PM |
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Hi, as man from Bulgaria - country with participation in WW1 and 2 and more 5 wars in the period 1878 - 1944), country with participation in NATO and other stupid unions... and others... and I'm interest in politics, and I can say this:
Why this wil NOT happen:
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1. USA will attack Iran.
USA is really impudent country (sorry you US guys), they are strong but they attack only the weak countries, like Iraq, they (USA) are afraid of the nuclear weapons of North Korea (NK) and Iran, as you know, they warn NK for stoping the nuclear programm, but NK do not stop it, and after they have finished the nuclear weapon (Yes they have a nuclear bombs now) the USA just stop the warnings. The same will happen with Iran. Other point is that USA do not want conflict with Russia, if they attack Iran or NK, they will get conflict with the russians, and they are still the one of the strongest war force in the world (With China and USA).
Other point is that, USA attack Iraq, cause they want the petrol there, and yes the know that in Iraq are no weapons for mass destruction.
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2. War beween Iran and USA+Israel+UK+Mabey France.
See 1.
And yes USA, UK and France will not go to war, don't know for Israel and Iran... (it is possibly)
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3. War beween Sounth Korea and North Korea...
Possibly, one day...
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...(South with USA and north with Iran)
No, USA will not support South Korea (SK), they have no profit of this, and yes they are are afraid of the nuclear weapons, and North Korea will not support Iran:
1. Geographicle position
2. No profit
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4. War between Israel and Hizballa+Mabey Suria
Possibly
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posted March 23, 2007 08:32 PM |
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No, USA will not support South Korea (SK), they have no profit of this, and yes they are are afraid of the nuclear weapons, and North Korea will not support Iran:
1. Geographicle position
2. No profit
Vok, you are wrong here.
North Korea has helped Iran with the development of the nuclar plan.
North Korea even declared that it's supporting Iran.
And I believe that USA will attack Iran soon, even without storng backup. They will prefer to fight against Iran then to fight against Iran that can use its Nuclar weapons.
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posted March 23, 2007 08:44 PM |
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well WW3 won't really happen unless someone hits the *BIG RED BUTTON* to launch a nuclear bomb, that way everyone or most people will be with them, while some people (like people in Iraq for example) may rebell against their rulers for freedom and for revenge
either way, i think that USA, China and Russia, will never intentionally dechaire a World War for kicks
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posted March 23, 2007 09:26 PM |
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No, USA will not support South Korea (SK), they have no profit of this, and yes they are are afraid of the nuclear weapons, and North Korea will not support Iran:
1. Geographicle position
2. No profit
Vok, you are wrong here.
North Korea has helped Iran with the development of the nuclar plan.
North Korea even declared that it's supporting Iran.
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And I believe that USA will attack Iran soon, even without storng backup. They will prefer to fight against Iran then to fight against Iran that can use its Nuclar weapons.
Well if they them tomorrow... but if Iran finish their Nuclar weapons befor USA attack them... USA will not attack Iran, and yes USA will not support South Korea and they will not attack NK, they do not want war with the russians, and another option:
The North Koreans are not stupid man  and they can probably win a war vs. USA.
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posted March 23, 2007 09:40 PM |
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The North Koreans are not stupid man and they can probably win a war vs. USA.
When the war comes, Iran will help North Korea's support.
USA will be busy fighting agaisnt Iran.
USA will send South Korea to help them. They're against Iran, too.
All that leads to a war between South and North Korea.
This thing will happen some day.
The third world war will just do it earlier.
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posted March 23, 2007 10:01 PM |
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Another conflict in the midddle east does not mean world war.
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posted March 23, 2007 10:12 PM |
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Very Serious Indeed
It is very serious but in my opinion, this would only expedite U.S. withdrawal in Iraq. The most likely course of action (assuming the hostages are not freed) is a covert American search and rescue operation. Our technology does many things that Iranians cannot defend against. There will be no war, only poor relations. The scope of this incursion upon American forces is too small and insignificant. Our government will now be forced to face not only its growing internal disagreement but now also the Iranian hostage situation. The American people would fully support a covert rescue but would not agree to wage war for something so small.
And I do agree that Iran wants U.S. to evacuate the middle east so that they can claim superiority over the region. They don't need to invade Iraq to claim superiority. They can impose unjust economic trade agreements and other such unreasonable monopolistic edicts. As for Israel . . . Iran is not the only nation to despise them. There are too many. They have too many enemies.
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posted March 23, 2007 10:24 PM |
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Another conflict in the midddle east does not mean world war.
That's easy foor you to say, but I don't think you really know what it means. If you live in Israel (Like GenieLord, Geny, and me) you'll know how scary it is with all of those "conflicts". It's just scary to know that there are all of those people who hate you and they can attack you at any time. Just imagine, how would you like it if a country that's *pretty* close to you had a neuclear weapon AND they hated you (so much that they would agree to erase your country from the map, even if it would be destroying other countries). We're still suffering from the war that was last summer, while biger forces are planing to attack us. You may remember 9/11, when thousands of people died in a couple of hours. Well, let me tell you that many more died because of suicide bombers in Israel. To make it even wrost, we had (I think) more wars than the US-while Israel is just more than 50 years old the US is more than 200 years old. We also have many problems with our government, and everyday we discover more and more horrible things about it. Let's put it this way:
USA is in a war with Canada, Mexico, and Russia (coming from Alaska). There are orginizations inside those states which use Guerilla Tactics by hiding in civilians and launching missile from public buildings. Even more, all of these countries hate you more than anything in the world. Now let's say that some country south of Mexico also comes in and threathens you with neuclear weapons, while every couple of years you have war. Now, add to that 10 (or more) years of suicide bombers all over the country, almost every day another bomber.
Does it sound different now?
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Iran is not the only nation to despise them. There are too many. They have too many enemies.
And do you know why we have those enemies?
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posted March 24, 2007 01:54 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 01:59, 24 Mar 2007.
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Ahmadi-Jad, the prime minister of Iran, said things like: "Israel should be deleted out of the map".
Very alarming that you don't even know that Iran has no prime minister. You are propably talking about their President, who is spelled Ahmadinejad by the way. And you are ready for war with this country...
Seriously, I am all for supporting the existence of Israel (I speak a little Hebrew myself ) but I fear there is a whole LOT of misunderstanding going on... I hope your level of knowledge of Iran is not the standard in Israel.
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posted March 24, 2007 10:35 AM |
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Ahmadi-Jad, the prime minister of Iran, said things like: "Israel should be deleted out of the map".
Very alarming that you don't even know that Iran has no prime minister. You are propably talking about their President, who is spelled Ahmadinejad by the way. And you are ready for war with this country...
Seriously, I am all for supporting the existence of Israel (I speak a little Hebrew myself) but I fear there is a whole LOT of misunderstanding going on... I hope your level of knowledge of Iran is not the standard in Israel.
Different languages, different names, different spellings.
Here, he's called prime minister. Anyway, you got my point.
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posted March 24, 2007 11:41 AM |
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Edited by Geny at 11:42, 24 Mar 2007.
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Here, he's called prime minister. Anyway, you got my point.
Sorry, but here he is also called president (hanasi Ahmadinejad).
That's too say, it doesn't really matter, all that matters is he's the leader of the Iranian people and I don't like his attitude.
As for war, there have been many wars in here (middle east) and unfortunately there will be more, but it's a bit too soon to talk about a world war. Like Consis and Vokial said - U.S. have nothing to gain and too much to lose if they invade Iran.
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posted March 24, 2007 12:14 PM |
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Anyway, I think that Ahmadinejad has a plan.
He has cancled his flight to USA and his speech to the UN.
That means something.
He wouldn't do that if he knows that everything is alright and he can defend himself.
Or he just knows that the Americans won't let him leave, if they found out that he's planning something.
He doesn't want to be arrested in USA.
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posted March 24, 2007 01:35 PM |
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Ahmadinejad reminds me of Isnogood... Do you guys remember Isnogood?
Here are my expectations:
The USA keeps playing cops with the world, saying how they're the best and doing stuff totally on their own.
One day the Russians get pissed and tell USA to go screw themselves.
Europe nods. Except of course Britain and Albania who say the USA is right.
People from Britain burn Tonny Blair at a stake and tell USA that America sucks.
George W Bush's son, George WW Bush, a mongoloid, becomes the president of America.
George WW Bush, the mongoloid, ignores Russia and tells Iran to give him their nuclear weapons.
Irish people 
Iran, still lead by the Isnogood guy, obliterates Israel.
George WW Bush, the mongoloid, obliterates Iran.
A small pause.
George WW Bush, the mongoloid, realises he obliterated Australia instead.
Russia enters an alliance with China and Europe.
Isnogood, having ran out of nuclear weapons, enters a Space Shuttle and sets off to Jupiter where he conquers the Zbozgs - the native Jupiterian race.
USA attacks Russia for no reason whatsoever.
Russia, China and Europe nuke half the USA.
Canada complains about the smell of uranium.
Irish people again
Hippies start protesting.
North Korea nukes the hippies.
Hippies nuke North Korea.
An all out war breaks between the Hippies and North Korea.
What's left of America obliterates Germany, Italy and Portugal.
France surrenders.
Isnogood comes back to Earth with hordes of Zbozgs and destroys what's left of Europe.
Russia gets really pissed and kicks Isnogood's butt.
USA keeps trying to attack Russia.
Russia kicks USA's ass too.
Hippies win their war against North Korea.
Russia and the Hippies stand as the winners of the war.
However, Irish people
A giant meteor hits Earth.
We all die.
Darth Vader ruls the galaxy.
The end.
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posted March 24, 2007 04:56 PM |
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Edited by Consis at 16:57, 24 Mar 2007.
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U.S. have nothing to gain and too much to lose if they invade Iran.
I'm afraid the gravity of that scenario is far more dire than some people think. It is not so much a case of whether we would gain anything by invading Iran, rather it is a case of three major considerations.
If U.S.A. Invaded Iran:
1. The current balance of global power would be greatly changed. Russia & China would be forced to act.
2. The entire muslim world may see it as ad hominem root Israel. Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia would see U.S.A. as anti-Islamic.
3. American citizens would rise up as our soldiers' death toll soars, graduating from activism and organized peaceful protests to marching against the current administration. I'm not saying people would become violent, but they would certainly consider looking the other way while the small minority anti-war fanatics become violent. Every day thus far is an exercise in maintaining peaceful protests. A major part of peacefully protesting involves subduing the more radical elements of your comrades.
 There will be no Iran invasion for many reasons. In every way that matters, U.S.A. cannot do it.
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posted March 24, 2007 06:14 PM |
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There will be no Iran invasion for many reasons. In every way that matters, U.S.A. cannot do it.
If you are right, I just won't be able to say if it's good or bad.
Mabey invasion of USA to Iran before they have nuclar weapon will safe many people's lives, but in these war many others might die.
And I'm sure that USA prefer that Tel-Aviv will be nuked, then many American soliders will die, and that's the way it's should be.
So you are probably right.
We should wait and see what's going on in these days.
According to the Israeli news, things aren't great.
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