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Help I making m Own Game: The Forgetten Quest.
 I making a Heroes 3 based game with Game Maker 7.
I not sure about everything, so you need to suggest ideas.
The Towns: Fortress, Infernopolish, Academy, Necropolish, Sylan, Dungeon, Stronghold and Asylum.
Smilarities beetwne Homm Games Towns and this Game's Towns:
Fortress - Homm 5 Haven
Infernopolish - Homm 3 Inferno
Academy - Homm 5 Academy
Necropolish - Homm 3 Necropolish
Sylan - Homm 5 Sylan
Dungeon - Homm 5 Dungeon
Stronghold - Homm 3 Stronghold
Tower - Homm 3 Tower
Asylum - Homm 3 Fortress
Ther will be Phirlopsyes:
Level 3 Phirlopsyes:
Angelic - Fortress
Demonic - Infernopolish
Scholar - Academy
Necroma - Necropolish
Naturalist - Sylan
Dungeonic - Dungeon
Barbarian - Stronghold
Mystical - Tower
Chaos - Asylum
Level 2 Phirlopsyes:
Chaotic or Horde - Necropolish, Infernopolish, Dungeon, Stronghold and Asylum
Lightsider or Aliance - Fortress, Academy, Sylan, Tower
Level 1 Phirlopsy:
Rogue - All Factions
There will be 4 hero classes per race: a Warior, a Dominator, a Mage, and a Priest.
Each hero class will have 3 unique skills, I not sure about them. Heroes will be able to Attack, like in Heroes 5, but if he lsoes all his creatures, or he loses a fight, he dies. Heroes can't be killed, they can only killed by defeating his army.
About the skills:
Elemental Magic (destructian and summoning magic from Homm 5, also some Blesses and Curses)
Dark Magic (Homm 5 dark magic like)
Light Magic (Homm5 light magic like)
Offense
Defense
Tactics
Archery
Seamanship
Scouting
Mining
Jewelchrafting
Herbalism
Alchemy
Sorcery
Diplomacy
Estates
Leadership
Luck
There will be ability too!
The Creatures:
yes, there will be creatures. The uqrades will be driffent: most uqrades will like Hereos 3 and 5 uqrades, but some of them will can be uqraded twice (like the Homm 2 Green Dragon ---> Red Dragon ---> Black Dragon) or can be uqraded in 2 or more forms (like Skeleton to Skeleton Warior or Skeleton Archer).
Fortress Lineup:
Necropolish Lineup:
Infernopolish Lineup:
Sylan Lineup:
Stronghold Lineup:
I still don't ready with Fortress, Academy, Dungeon, Asylum, and Tower Lineup!
Let's see some Fortress creatures!
 
 
 
 
The Buildings:
not sure about them, can you suggest anything?
The Ships:
Boarding a ship is the only way to move on the sea or water. Ships can only move on water. Each faction has got 3 unique ships:
There's Shipyards, where you can park with your ship (each shipyard can have more ships, from more players, each player can only have 1 ship at 1 shipyard), and the shipyard where you can board the ship. A ship land at normal earth, can only land at shipyard (except the Expoler Ship who can land earth, and can be boarded on earth)
To make a ship go, you need erudite seamem. If you don't have them, your level 1 units or your "orkable" humanoid units (skeleton, zombie, ghoul, elven warior, hunter) make the ship move, but then yoru ship will move slowly. Expolwer ships needs 5 men to move, Warships need 20 men, Heavy Warships need 40 men.
Let's see the erudite seamen!
Fortress - Matelot
Infernopolish - Familar
Academy - Gremlin Matelot
Necropoish - Ghost
Sylan - Sea Elf (each sea elf acts as 2 normal erudite seamen!)
Dungeon - Minotaur Brute (each minotaur brute acts as 5 normal erudite seamen!)
Stronghold - Sea Orc (each sea elf acts as 2 normal erudite seamen!)
The World:
Basicly Ashan, but I appologize that. Yes the game is plays about 500-1000 (when there wasn't any guns, but there was bows, swords and crossbows). Ashan is like Europe in 1500 (the home of conquers and all raes), and Bartz (the Lineage 2's world) is like America (that conquenors conqure). Bartz is a great island in Ashan.
A bit diffenerence beetwen Homm 5 world and this: There's a kingdom of undead, Heresh, adn the king of Heresh is Sandro.
Ashan:
Bartz:
The gods:
God (know as Elrath)
Satan (know as Urgash)
Death (know as Frengal)
The gods can't be killed by anyone, they just can only get closed into prison by a god whose strogner then him.
The gods make half-gods from mortals. The half-gods make immortals fro mmortals, if the gods give him premission for it. Half-Gods can't die, If they get killed by an other half-god, they just neutralize, for some days, wekks or month they get to the hell to suffer for their sins, and they return back, as Half-God off ccorse. Currently, there are over 50 half-gods!
The storyline:
1. The Characters
2. The storyline
3. The desprections
Characters:
The Evil God: even stonger than God, he can also present oneself in full reality (basicly all gods are just ghosts in the world, and they are have their body ad afterworld/hell/heaven, but this god can have his body at the world), but for it, he has got bloodthirst: he have to eat half-gods or at least strong people, no matter they are evil or good. The Evil Good want to destroy his bloodthirst, but he can't stopp.
God: The enemy of the evil god. He is weaker then the Evil God, and he can't get bodified on the world, but he's clever, sly, Lawful Good. Later he will make a mortal a man who want to kill himself the Death, and from a forgetten Archdevil the Satan. The Satan and Death are will be weaker than God, but together they are as strong as god.
Death: the god who made Sandro a half-god. He's the Guardian of the Afterlife. If a mortal died or a half-god get neutralize read the peper of his/her sins (the mortal's/half-god's) if the dead one is a mortal: if he got more sins then good act, he get to the hell. But if he got more good acts than sins, he get to the Heaven. After he/she waits a cupple of months, hos/her soul reicarnte. But if the dead onei s a half-god: off corse, he'll get to the hell for his sins (only if he got sins), if the half-god has got low ammount of siins, he will get to the hell only for some days, then he will return. But if he got a lto of sins, he will got to the hell for even ine month. It depends on how many sins he got.
Satan: The Lord of Hell. He made he Demon Sovergein a half-god.
Sandro: a half-god. His mortal part is a lich, while his god part is the death. He one of the most powerfull half-gods ever (weaker than the Crusnikcs of corse), born "leader personality". Sandro is the King of All Undead.
Sovergein: a half-god. His mortal part is a demon, while his god part is Satan. He one of the most powerfull half-gods ever (weaker than the Crusnikcs of corse), born "leader personality". Sovergein is the King of All Demons.
The Crusnicks: children of The Evil God, half-gods. After they born, God closed the Evil God to the Gods prison and put him to eternal sleep. Currently there are 3 Crusniks (only 3, the Evil Son had 3 children, 2 sons and 1 daughter). All Half-Gods can be changed be the gods, mind-reading, make him weak, etc. The Crusnikcs CANNOT BE CHANGED BY THE GODS, becuse they are born half-gods. They serves the Light Side. The Crusnikcs are suck the blood of vampires and hunt the undead. The Crusnicks are all twin brothers, but look very driffent.
Abal Nightroad: one of the Crusnicks. He's a Inquistor of the Holly Griffin Empire, live as a normal Inquistor. He helps the people, fight agints Sandro, making sure the Griffin Empire won't change to Evil (like Vokial's Sanctrum, the Haven Renegades).
Kain: one of the Crusnicks, protecting human (if anyone kills a human, he kilsl it, for example: a lich kills a human, and then Kain kills the lich), leader of the Rosen Curz (Revenge of Rose in german) (Rosen Curz is the human-protecting company of half-gods and humen with special powers, if anyone kills a human, they kills it, for example: a lich kills a human, and then one of the Nembers of the Rosen Curz kills the lich)
Seth: one of the Crusnicks, the famale crusnick. Empress of the Matashaulu Empire. The Matashaulu empire os can't be touched by people who aren't human or vampire. In this country, vampires don't have got bloodthirst as logn as they live in that country, and humans and vampires live in harmoney.
The Storyline:
About -10 000 YSD: The Destruction of the Evil God
The evil god destroyes many things. He kills Sandro and the Sovergein, kills many half-gods.
13 years after The Destruction of The Evil God: The Reforms
Sandro and Sovergein get rescurracted, the Crusnickcs get born. 4 days after, God tryed to imprison The Evil God, but he wasn't enough strong. He used some evil dark powers, and he closed him. He sweared he will never use that dirty hands, so he created the Death and Satan, and gave that dark powers to them.
19 years after The Reforms: The Crusnicks get job
The Crusnicks mother was a beatutyfull priestess. Abel became priest, while the Rosen Curz is dead, and poeple askled Kain to becoem the leader, and he aplyed. Seth became the Empress of the Mathasaulu City. They all thinked they are avarge half-gods, while God told Sandro the reality, and he todl Sandro that he can't tell it to anyone, escapaly the Crusnicks.
-1122 YSD: The War of the Empire
Sandro declares war with the Holly Griffin Empire, as he's the ally of the Demons, that's the least he can do: help the demons agints the humans.
Be contined...
THE FORGETTEN QUEST TEAM
Team Leader: Unhackable
Team Aaministrator: bixie
Team Nembers: none
I looking for team nembers and helperss...
Take a loook on the Official Site of Forgetten Quest!
Just register and write suggestions! I might use your ideas too!
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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
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posted April 29, 2007 10:32 AM |
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can you give us a basic theme for the town, so we don't get stuff wrong.
so far, we have the heroes, and some of the creature line-up. without knowing what the town is and what its based on, we have no idea what to do.
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posted April 29, 2007 10:45 AM |
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can you give us a basic theme for the town, so we don't get stuff wrong.
so far, we have the heroes, and some of the creature line-up. without knowing what the town is and what its based on, we have no idea what to do.
Okay, smilarities beetwen Homm and this Game:
Fortress - Homm 5 Haven
Infernopolish - Homm 3 Inferno
Academy - Homm 5 Academy
Necropolish - Homm 3 Necropolish
Sylan - Homm 5 Sylan
Dungeon - Homm 5 Dungeon
Stronghold - Homm 3 Stronghold
Asylum - Homm 3 Fortress
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posted April 29, 2007 11:15 AM |
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Infernopolish rotflmao
KD pwns...
Units look nice except for demons (they look more like some cultists) and blade/thunder dancers (thunderdancers? wtf? do they like dance to "thunderstruck" from ac/dc?)
And why does sylvan have a much bigger lineup than inferno? Sorry, I mean, Infernopolish ( )
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radar
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Castle/Haven player
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posted April 29, 2007 11:22 AM |
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Edited by radar at 11:24, 29 Apr 2007.
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Nosferatu looks like transsexualist 
oh now even table is similiar to alcibiades'
btw I wish you luck doing this
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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
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posted April 29, 2007 11:39 AM |
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what about tower?
basically, what your doing is taking stuff that exists in the game, then renaming it and using it as your own stuff. that is known as copy right, as is punishable by imprisonment and execution in some circles.
i suggest try and use completely new ideas, or give a twist on old classic ones. for example, why not have the whole conflict out at sea?
if you think about it, you could have your creatures, or "crew", on ships, sail around the place, land on islands, and go exploring from there. that is both original and enjoyable. each race has there own ship, with a specific theme to it, their own crew, again with a special theme to it, and there heroes, for the sake of arguement are called captians, act like the heroes in HOMM, but can be miles different as well!
i don't know... you could have the dwarves as using some ironclad warship, chugging slowly along, or have them in norse longboats. you might have the orcs in the long boats, or in red-indian canoes. the humans could be in european galleons, and the dragon people could be in japanese junks?
also, with a name like "the forgotten quest", people will expect it to be a RPG, or an MMO.
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feluniozbunio
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posted April 29, 2007 11:46 AM |
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oh now even table is similiar to alcibiades'
yeah and avatar too , at first i thought it was alc's topic lol
Btw just one question: how much time does it take to make new heroes game alone if Nival company has been doing it for couple years?
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radar
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posted April 29, 2007 12:12 PM |
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Edited by radar at 12:15, 29 Apr 2007.
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man, that was 3D game and they were not using 1 applicaton
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btw I wish you luck doing this
that was irony
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posted April 29, 2007 01:02 PM |
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what about tower?
basically, what your doing is taking stuff that exists in the game, then renaming it and using it as your own stuff. that is known as copy right, as is punishable by imprisonment and execution in some circles.
i suggest try and use completely new ideas, or give a twist on old classic ones. for example, why not have the whole conflict out at sea?
if you think about it, you could have your creatures, or "crew", on ships, sail around the place, land on islands, and go exploring from there. that is both original and enjoyable. each race has there own ship, with a specific theme to it, their own crew, again with a special theme to it, and there heroes, for the sake of arguement are called captians, act like the heroes in HOMM, but can be miles different as well!
i don't know... you could have the dwarves as using some ironclad warship, chugging slowly along, or have them in norse longboats. you might have the orcs in the long boats, or in red-indian canoes. the humans could be in european galleons, and the dragon people could be in japanese junks?
also, with a name like "the forgotten quest", people will expect it to be a RPG, or an MMO.
I won't say it's my own stuff. I will ask 3do first, off corse, and Blizzard too. Yes, each faction will have got own ship, adn there will be neaturel ship too.
Also, I create an own world for the game.
And about the ships, it's good idea, I will make mining (without mines, diggint out crystals and artifacts from the earth), jewelchrafting (contruct amuletts, necklares, rings and any other kind of jewels from driffent kidn of crystals that has got bonus for you), herbalism (find herbs in the forrest, in mountain you find snow plants, in sand you find sand plants, in volcanic,. you find "fire-grass" like plants), alchemy (makign potions from herbs), and any others...
And basicly I have a site, The Forgetten Quest, and tihs game will be play in the Forgetten Quest's world. Each hero will have an unique look, like the most campaign heroes in Homm 5. And abotu the spells and magic: I'll create it myself.
There will be class uqrades for heroes, as William suggested.
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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
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posted April 29, 2007 01:12 PM |
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Yes, each faction will have got own ship, adn there will be neaturel ship too.
when i said ships, i actually meant the hero moves around in them, all the battles are on ships and the map is an ocean. pretty much the whole game is about ships, sailing the open sea and so on.
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Also, I create an own world for the game.
thats good to hear. if you need any help, just HC messanger me.
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And about the ships, it's good idea, I will make mining (without mines, diggint out crystals and artifacts from the earth), jewelchrafting (contruct amuletts, necklares, rings and any other kind of jewels from driffent kidn of crystals that has got bonus for you), herbalism (find herbs in the forrest, in mountain you find snow plants, in sand you find sand plants, in volcanic,. you find "fire-grass" like plants), alchemy (makign potions from herbs), and any others...
a bit hard to do stuff like mining from a boat?
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LummoxLewis
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posted April 29, 2007 01:13 PM |
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Yes, I am still working on the hero upgrades, just trying to get the correct names, and figure out some possible specialties things that can come with the upgraded heroes.
You will all see this in my next post 
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posted April 29, 2007 01:38 PM |
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Yes, each faction will have got own ship, adn there will be neaturel ship too.
when i said ships, i actually meant the hero moves around in them, all the battles are on ships and the map is an ocean. pretty much the whole game is about ships, sailing the open sea and so on.
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Also, I create an own world for the game.
thats good to hear. if you need any help, just HC messanger me.
Dude, I already planned my own world.
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And about the ships, it's good idea, I will make mining (without mines, diggint out crystals and artifacts from the earth), jewelchrafting (contruct amuletts, necklares, rings and any other kind of jewels from driffent kidn of crystals that has got bonus for you), herbalism (find herbs in the forrest, in mountain you find snow plants, in sand you find sand plants, in volcanic,. you find "fire-grass" like plants), alchemy (makign potions from herbs), and any others...
a bit hard to do stuff like mining from a boat?
Mining will only avilbe on normal earth, in water, you can't mine.
Also, this game will not only about ships and sea. Also! I will create Fishing as skill. It is same as mining (but you can also fish money too) but only avilbe on water.
Battles will be everywhere, but I sure there will be much more factions that I planned, maybe an alternative desert faction too , maybe a pirate faction too , etc.
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Ted
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posted April 29, 2007 02:28 PM |
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KD, dont bite off more than you can chew. this sounds rather ambiousious, but with not actual plot or motive  (sorry for being rather cruel)
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posted April 29, 2007 02:32 PM |
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Um, do you know what you are getting into? It's hard to work with game maker, as far as I know. Does it do 3D?
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posted April 29, 2007 02:37 PM |
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Um, do you know what you are getting into? It's hard to work with game maker, as far as I know. Does it do 3D?
I know, I getting to very hard work. AS for Cencept Arts, you can make them if you want. Also, abotu town, it might be 3d, if you make it 3d and get a modell editor. If you don't want to help and you don't/won't have got a Modell Editor, I make it fully 2d (nor 3d).
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posted April 29, 2007 05:04 PM |
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"seem lots people are excited for you, Alc."
(Take my word back... sorry for the mistake)
Also Joining the *burn KD on stick movement*
Whats the battle system going to be like?
And what about exploration?
Are there town development?
Kings Bounty?
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted April 29, 2007 06:24 PM |
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seem lots people are excited for you, Alc.
Hehe, another victim of KD's constant avatar switching.
@KD
It would be nice if you could use an avatar not associated with one of the current posters.
Sorry for the off-topic.
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posted April 29, 2007 06:28 PM |
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Let's see...
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seem lots people are excited for you, Alc.
I am not Alci.
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Whats the battle system going to be like?
Same as Heroes 5's.
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And what about exploration?
Same as Heroes 3's.
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Are there town development?
Yes, there are. Mix beetwen Heroes 5's and Heroes 4's.
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Kings Bounty?
Dunno. it won't be 3d game.
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Ted
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posted April 29, 2007 08:53 PM |
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not 3d. not 3d! that will never sell well, a game nowadays almost has to be 3d or else its doomed to ultimate failure
+AJ, thanks for joining the burn KD threads gang
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posted April 29, 2007 09:08 PM |
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not 3d. not 3d! that will never sell well, a game nowadays almost has to be 3d or else its doomed to ultimate failure
+AJ, thanks for joining the burn KD threads gang
This game will be for free.
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