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Thread: Mordor race
Gil-galad
Gil-galad


Known Hero
High King of Noldor
posted August 26, 2007 03:55 PM
Edited by Gil-galad at 14:33, 10 Sep 2007.

Mordor race

I read about the Starcraft race and the werewolves, so i thaught: why not a LOTR Mordor race?

Capital: Barad Dūr of course

A few other cities: Minas Morgūl, Cirith Ongūl, Isengard, Gundabad, Gorgoroth, Udūn, Harad, Rhūn

Grail structure: The Eye of Sauron which makes you see the whole map including the underworld + the usual money and creature boost.

History: Read The Lord of the Rings

Hero's racial ability: Not quite shure.

Units

Tier 1.   Orc             ->  Uruk
         equiped with a      equiped with a bowed sword, a shield
         short blade         and a helmet
                             Ability: Warkry: raises attack        
                             initative for two turnes

Tier 2.   Orc archer       ->  Udūn archer  
         equiped with a       equiped with a bow, a knife and a
         small bow and a      helmet
         knife                

Tier 3.   Haradman          ->  Harad warrior
         equiped with a        equiped with a bowed sword and two
         bowed sword           throwingspears
                               Ability: Strikes twice

Tier 4.   Easterling        ->  Easterling soldier
         equiped with a        equiped with a large shield, a
         spear and a shield    helmet, armour and a helebard
                               Abilities: Large shield, unlimited
                               realation

Tier 5.   Attack troll      -> Olog-hai
         equiped with a       equiped with a warclub, armour and a
         maze                 helmet
         Ability: large       Abilities: no enemy realation, large
         creature             creature


Tier 6.   Oliphaunt         ->  Mumakīl
         Ability: large        Abilities: large creature, harad
         creature              archers: on the Mumakīls back
                               there is a platform with three
                               archers from Harad which works
                               exactly as the three towers in a sige
                               battle

Tier 7.   Nazgūl            ->  Witchking
         equiped with a        armed with a sword, armour and a
         sword                 iron mask/crown/helmet
         Abilities: large      Abilities: large creature, flyer,
         creature, flyer,      fear, Morgul blade: each          
         fear                  time a Whichking strike he has a
                               25% chance to badly poison the enemy
                               which each turn kills at least one
                               creature

I know this may not be balanced, and there are many issues. For example: there are only 9 Nazgūls including 1 Wichking, and there are no casters. But anyway this would be very fun for those who love both HOMM and LOTR

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Bombur
Bombur


Known Hero
posted August 26, 2007 04:41 PM

I have a better idea.How about making Nazguls heroes?And the tier 6 should be the fellbeast with poisonous fellbeast as upgrade?


And tier 7 creature the mumakil?Also known as the Oliphaunt.And upgrade Armoured oliphaunt
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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


Known Hero
High King of Noldor
posted August 26, 2007 05:24 PM

Yeah, perhaps, but do we know the names of the nazgūls? And Mumakil is a much better word than oliphaunt I think.

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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted August 26, 2007 05:26 PM

Hmmm, yeah Nazgul as heroes but couldnt we have them on their black horses instead. We alredy have wyverns for the orcs, why also wyverns for the nazguls? (wyvern, which is the real name for the flying horrors, fellbeasts...)
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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


Known Hero
High King of Noldor
posted August 26, 2007 05:40 PM

If the Nazgūls are the heros they most be on horses of course, but isn't the Fellbeast too Wyvern-looking to be an own creature? And how will the upgrade be?

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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted August 26, 2007 06:43 PM

You might find some stuff here:
Nazgul
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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


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High King of Noldor
posted August 26, 2007 07:04 PM

Hmm, some stuff here yes. There are some names for the nazgūls, but if they are the heroes (which fit most) how can we see the difference between them? They are all the same (if the hero portraits does not show how they look like without their cloak).

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Daystar
Daystar


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Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted August 26, 2007 07:15 PM

Different designs on their outfits?  

Eg, Ross would have silver stars, with a dagger at the center, and silver and red lining.

Chandler would have Yellowish shooting through the robe, and a necklace woven from golden thread and coins.

Joey would have sortof pale blue stylings, and perhaps rips.  Mabey spikey, horny helm.

(Names are not what I am suggesting)
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baklava
baklava


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
posted August 27, 2007 12:18 AM

Perhaps... Or just different pictures from different artwork (you won't believe how different people in black hoods can be on pictures)...
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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted August 27, 2007 01:06 AM

the problem with this faction is you cant make everyone happy. some people would just be angry at nival for being unoriginal.
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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


Known Hero
High King of Noldor
posted August 27, 2007 08:00 PM

Shure, many people will definetly react; what has LOTR to do with HOMM? But as a huge LOTR fan I would like to see it anyway.

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted August 27, 2007 08:24 PM

This whole thing should actually be very possible to put into the game when ToTE comes out.  Cyclops becomes the Trolls, Blade Dancers can be turned into Haradrim, and the Wizard on the elephant can act as the Mumak.  As for the Nazguls' names, only one is official - Khamul, the second-in-command to the Witch-King.

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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
posted August 27, 2007 09:57 PM

Names:
Goseph
Khan Dallr
Roc
Monekae
Febi
Raeck Chill
Aelise
Jeral Din
Ganis
Coal
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guarder
guarder


Supreme Hero
posted August 28, 2007 06:56 PM

Quote:
Different designs on their outfits?  

Eg, Ross would have silver stars, with a dagger at the center, and silver and red lining.

Chandler would have Yellowish shooting through the robe, and a necklace woven from golden thread and coins.

Joey would have sortof pale blue stylings, and perhaps rips.  Mabey spikey, horny helm.

(Names are not what I am suggesting)

LOL. aren't these from Friends?
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Moonlith
Moonlith


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Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
posted September 12, 2007 01:43 PM
Edited by Moonlith at 13:53, 12 Sep 2007.

I had already been wondering when a colaboration would start making a LOTR campaign actually, after the new expansion is released.

I like this faction idea, it really fits as well. The nazgul make an excelent set of 9 heroes for starters. Sauron most likely being a campaign hero

As for the lineup, I'd be more in favour of setting Balrogs as tier 7. I don't like the idea of those eastern people with elephants in it though, they aren't very NATIVE to mordor. Those cave trolls could do well as tier 5 or 6. Also, why weren't Warg Riders named?

1 - Orc Archers (Admit it, they are crap in the movies... ) < New model
2 - Orc Warriors (again, they stink, tier 2 is a good level for them) < Orc model
3 - Warg Riders < New model
4 - Uruk Hai < new model
5 - Trolls < Use cyclop models
6 - Fellbeasts (Yeah, I think they do fit. Yeah the other orc faction has wyverns, but hey, they have cyclops and orcs too! So what?) < Pao Kai Models
7 - Balrogs (most likely to be the spellcaster of the lineup. I imagine it having a special ability to perform a whipstrike damaging 3x3 square in a short distance away, perhaps also damaging walls ) < Pit Lord model ?

At least that's roughly off the top of my head.

But yeah, people should colaborate and try to make a solid LOTR campaign, with a fully edited mod to make it fit better.

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Gil-galad
Gil-galad


Known Hero
High King of Noldor
posted September 14, 2007 05:52 PM
Edited by Gil-galad at 12:14, 16 Sep 2007.

I actually thaught of making the Warg Raiders a lvl 3 unit since I have ralised that the nazgūls are the perfect heroes for Mordor, and I admit that the Oliphaunts are a bit.... don't get a proper word for them. But there should definetly be some haradmen or easterlings. They fight for Mordor just like Unicorns fight for Sylvan (and the easterlings are extremly cool!). Uruk-hais are not from Mordor, they are from Isengard and fight only for Saruman. If there can't be any haradmen or easterlings there can't be any uruk-hais either. Balrogs? Well... perhaps. They are very cool, but they have never faught for Mordor. The Moria-Balrog may have been under Sauron's influence, but he never faught openly for Mordor, and he never appeared in any battles. The very few balrogs that exist are cind of their own masters and they hide in the deepest mountains. Perhaps a spell: Conjurce/Summon Balrog. That could be an ultimate ability

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