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zamfir
Promising
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posted March 29, 2008 08:24 PM |
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Indeed, the music theme of the Fortress has very much personality!!
I like both Stronghold and Fortress, but I'm definately the fan of stronghold and crag hack. My buddy, skeleton_King loves Fortress (it's his favourite city, not Necroplois as one might think), and all the day me make hot-seats-me Stronghold with Crag Hack and him Fortress with Korbac .
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devangle1984
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posted March 29, 2008 08:37 PM |
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i think ur friend should take tazar, tat might even things up
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zamfir
Promising
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posted March 29, 2008 09:18 PM |
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we're actually allies, we're ************ out of the poor AI!!
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thinkminiq
Adventuring Hero
Hero of the Miniq
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posted March 29, 2008 11:26 PM |
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I like Tazar much more than Korbac. But i think Korbac is in the best Beastmasters with Tazar, Alkin and Bron
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devangle1984
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posted March 30, 2008 01:11 PM |
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in my eyes tazar stands out of all, alkin is the next best thing, perfect starting skills, korback is not bad and te serpent fly hero(i forgot his name :S)is good too.
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thinkminiq
Adventuring Hero
Hero of the Miniq
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posted March 30, 2008 02:14 PM |
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in my eyes tazar stands out of all, alkin is the next best thing, perfect starting skills, korback is not bad and te serpent fly hero(i forgot his name :S)is good too.
You are absouletly right Tazar is the best and Alkin is second. Btw the serpent fly hero who you forgot his name is good too and his name is Korbac
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devangle1984
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posted March 31, 2008 12:06 AM |
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opps thxs i have made a habbit of forgeting some things i do appologize.probably due to my lack of activity in online play, although im sure anders will make me remember it the hard way lol
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zamfir
Promising
Supreme Hero
Allez allez allez
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posted April 01, 2008 09:21 PM |
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Edited by zamfir at 21:21, 01 Apr 2008.
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At equal level and both with Expert Offense(Crag Hack)/Expert Armorer(Tazar), they negate eachother the enemy's speciality?
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devangle1984
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posted April 02, 2008 12:43 AM |
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not really i think hack stil lmanages to dish out more damage than taz could defend.the fact is the higher the attack, the higher the damage done, but as far as def is concerned it works opposite. lower defence means more damage absorbed.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted April 02, 2008 12:49 AM |
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You can never negate offense/armorer, coz offense only works for hand-to-hand damage, while armorer reduces range damage too.
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted April 02, 2008 12:54 AM |
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Edited by yasmiel at 00:56, 02 Apr 2008.
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Up to level 45 or something, Crag should deal out more than 100% damage. After that, Tazar's specialty would probably reduce damage to below 100%.
But, when was the last game you had heroes over level 45? 
NOTE: 45 is rough estimate, at level 40 crag deals 104,5% damage, at level 60 he deals 88% -> so i figured the turning point is somewhere near lvl45.
PS: this is for melee attacks only, and all numbers considered that crags attack and tazars defense would be equal. Even after that, i would leave some room to possible mistakes
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devangle1984
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posted April 02, 2008 01:27 AM |
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fair enough, although i think when it comes to vs map, ppls playing style would complement either. i find craig more interesting and better as i like to play aggresive, but as i mentioned before, its not like id not cinsider taz either.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted April 02, 2008 03:10 AM |
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Fortress music theme is my favorite HoMM music of all time. Indeed, one of my favorite orchestral pieces. (Sad, I know.)
I'm currently trying to figure out how to set a part as my ringtone. 
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thinkminiq
Adventuring Hero
Hero of the Miniq
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posted April 02, 2008 02:08 PM |
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Fortress music theme is my favorite HoMM music of all time. Indeed, one of my favorite orchestral pieces. (Sad, I know.)
I'm currently trying to figure out how to set a part as my ringtone.
he he i agree with u Fortress theme is great.
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sirwillis
Tavern Dweller
Gorgon Herder
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posted April 18, 2008 04:15 PM |
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Alkin and styg are my favorite heroes
Alkin
armourer
leadership
luck
offense
wisdom
logistics
Tactics
resistance or sorcery
Styg
sorcery
mysticism
intelligence
Wisdom
earth magic
fire magic
air magic
water magic
My two best
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liophy
Famous Hero
Bulgarian
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posted April 18, 2008 08:27 PM |
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Edited by liophy at 20:27, 18 Apr 2008.
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Willis, are you drunk or you are high?
Have you ever seen Alkin starting skills?
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hobowu
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posted April 19, 2008 05:05 AM |
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i think witches are pretty much useless full stop
maybe andra is usable due to intelligence specialty.
oh, and voy (since she starts with slow), but with a specialty in navigation, and a slot wasted on navi.... definitely useless unless on island maps.
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Gurnisson
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posted April 20, 2008 09:11 PM |
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I love to defend a Fortress against a guy who doesn't have ballistics
I also love the Mighty Gorgon, I love that special ability and also it's high health and defence.
Even if Fortress is a good town to defend, it stinks to attack when you don't have ballistics and your enemy camps inside the town walls.
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zamfir
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 20, 2008 10:04 PM |
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Quote:
At equal level and both with Expert Offense(Crag Hack)/Expert Armorer(Tazar), they negate eachother the enemy's speciality?
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not really i think hack stil lmanages to dish out more damage than taz could defend.the fact is the higher the attack, the higher the damage done, but as far as def is concerned it works opposite. lower defence means more damage absorbed.
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You can never negate offense/armorer, coz offense only works for hand-to-hand damage, while armorer reduces range damage too.
I know that, if the Attacker's Attack Skill is bigger by x than the Defender's Defense Skill, the damage increasement is much bigger (almost twice, actually) than the damage reduction would be in the opposite case (when the Defender's Defense Skill is bigger by x than the Attacker's Attack Skill).
This is because the well-known damage formulae is:
I.Let D=(Random Damage Within Damage Range)*(Number of Creatures Performing the Attack).
II.Afterwards, the Attackers Attack Skill (AAS) and The Defenders Defense Skill (DDS) enter the equation.
Let X=AAS-DDS.
III. Now we have three posibilities:
i) X>0
X is positive (meaning that the AAS is bigger than the DDS). In this case, the final damage D'=D+D*(5%*X).
ii) X<0
X is negative (meaning that the DDS is bigger than the AAS). It this occures, the final damage D'=D-D*(2%*(-X)).
iii) X=0
X is zero, so the AAS and DSS are equal. In this particular situation, the initial damage D is unmodified.
NOTE: It is not sure if, in case ii), the exact formulae is the given one, or either D'=D-D*(2.5%*(-X))or D'=D-D*(2.125*(-X)).
So, it's easy to see that big ASS are much more effective then DSS (so, it's better to specialize in the Hero's Attack Skill than in his/her's Defense Skill.)
However, the Expert Offense secondary skill increases damage by 30% (it increases D, not D', I suppose). On the other hand, the Expert Armorer increases 30% (again, D is affected, not D').
Crag Hack/Tazar have Offense/Armorer speciality. This means that they increase their respective skill by 5% per level (5% improvement of the 30% bonus, so a level 2 hero doesn't have Offense/Armorer at 35%, but at 31.5%, 1.5% being 5% out of 30.)
So, at equal levels and wothout takinf Attack and Defense skills of both heroes, each of them should negate the opposing speciality in combat.
Let's take level 10:
Crag Hack's speciality increases D by 45%, so an Ancient Behemoth should deal 58 damage instead of 40, 18 being 45* out of 40. But then Tazar reduces damage inflicted on his troops by 45& of the initial, unmodified D, wich is also 18.
So 40+18=58.
58-18=40.
Nothing has changed. What I am mising?
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Gurnisson
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posted April 20, 2008 11:21 PM |
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"On the other hand, the Expert Armorer increases 30%"
Armorer goes 5%, 10% and 15%, not 10%, 20% and 30% like offense does.
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