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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted June 23, 2007 11:09 AM |
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Edited by dkolb at 23:28, 23 Jun 2007.
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Sylvan Tier 2: Why I hate them and why you should too!
I've kinda had a breakdown.
Let me first start off by saving that
I for the most part am very pleased with the design of the creatures in HOMM5.
I mean let's face it...the franchise has gone from
to
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/gallery.php?game=heroes5&image=pit_lord_concept&back=concept_art_inferno.shtml
I mean creatures like the Pit Lord/Green Dragon just make you go WOW.
Then came along in HOF a unit who was hard not to laugh at.
He wasn't badly designed or anything he just had a bemused expression that was just really funny. I mean save that image open up paint and zoom in all the way and try not to laugh!
This creatures upgrade unfortunately wasn't as funny, he was just a tough looking dwarf that I wouldn't want to mess with.
Well things were going well...
But then I by chance viewed this image:
http://www.heroes-centrum.com/download/wallpapery/h5-wall14.jpg
Shocked at how offensive the image I saw was I launched into a tirade
"I mean jeez I'd be more afraid on the leprecaun dancing around in the garden then that.
I'd be more afraid of a tree of wisdom then that.
Heck I'd be more afraid of the rogue from HOMM1 that looked like the freaking hamburgler than that!
Look at it's spindly arms that look turned completely the wrong way, and then HUGE guantlets that give it huge forarms. If it's biceps were that small it wouldn't be even able to wear those guantlets because it would weigh down it's arms too much."
When I got to thinking about it... I truly think this is the crappiest heroes creature ever made. I mean seriously... the first one DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ANY SPECIALS! Heck even Peasants have at least one special.
It's not so much the outfit or lack thereof that disturbs me.
It is the sheer unadultrated ugliness and uselessness of the unit itself. It isn't even well designed and funny like the spearwielder. It's terribly designed and horrifying!
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/gallery.php?game=heroes5&image=addon2/H5_ToE_Sylvan_2&back=sylvan_alternate_upgrades.shtml
I...I....there are no words to describe the awfulness that is that picture.
...well there are but they aren't polite words.
And Nival thought these creatures LOOKED GOOD!
They even made a wallpaper of a similiar creature.
It's like severe retinal damage in .jpeg form.
I mean what is it trying to look cool by covering it's face with some stupid teal cowl?
I don't even want to think about it. I can't even insult it because I can't bear to look at it. In fact I'd rather have a staring contest with a mighty gorgon.
I'd imagine something of that sort is awaiting me in horrid hell.
It has converted me to say the least...
Have we as heroes fans become so calloused....Have we become so jaded...so world weary so cynical so indifferent... that we would allow such a creature to BESMIRCH everything that HOMM has stood for since King's Bounty?!
Will we forever desecrate cool looking creatures
Like the creepy ghost of HOMM1
Like the stylish Titans and Hottie Blonde archers of HOMM2
Like the Headbanging Champions or the Smiling Behemoths of HOMM3
Or even like the glisening Thunderbirds of HOMM4
will we desecrate them with this sheer horror?
With this elf that makes the zombies look good by comparison?
WILL WE?!
I submit to you no... because we are true HOMM fans!
NOW WHOSE WITH ME?!
*crickets*
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Silinrul
Tavern Dweller
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posted June 23, 2007 11:25 AM |
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I like their upgraded version...Use them correctly, and you get one mean force.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 23, 2007 11:33 AM |
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In the game they do not look so ugly, it's their unupgraded version that irritates me because they look and sound like kinds. I like the idea of twin blade mastery and fencing. Also they are pretty effective, especially when you get avenger and their wardance combo becomes quite damaging.
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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted June 23, 2007 11:35 AM |
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Edited by dkolb at 11:40, 23 Jun 2007.
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I'm mainly talking about how awful they look not how good they are in combat although they aren't close to the best even in that.
A Marksmen or a Crossbowman would stick a nice bolt in em'
they cost less too then an upgraded war dancer.
The only think they are good for is their initiative.
And I hate them so much
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted June 23, 2007 11:51 AM |
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They kindof rock, from my POV.
I used to think they were smurfs, but now they are kindof cool. There's this whole subtleness to them. Footmen are all clonky and metal, Dancers are graceful.
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted June 23, 2007 12:13 PM |
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Quote:
Dancers are graceful.
HAHAHAHAHA
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money,
you got the blues."
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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted June 23, 2007 12:15 PM |
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They kindof rock, from my POV.
I used to think they were smurfs, but now they are kindof cool. There's this whole subtleness to them. Footmen are all clonky and metal, Dancers are graceful.
"graceful?!"
uuhhggg.
I can see that with a unicorn...
ya know maybe I'm just racist against elves I don't know what it is.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted June 23, 2007 01:09 PM |
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actually, that's Specieism.
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 01:17 PM |
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http://www.heroes-centrum.com/download/wallpapery/h5-wall14.jpg
This SO AWESOME LOOKING!! I Hate you for hating that wall paper! It's eyes! SO EVIL!! ... He rocks... But they suck ingame... Don't use them, but they are great looking (not blade dancer, only war guy... and the alt. is way to Sciens fiction)
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted June 23, 2007 01:59 PM |
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I like mostly all of the upgrades. Maybe even more creative than the past upg. Cred to Nival 
The new sylvan, fortress and necropolis gotta be some of the best but the other looks great too. Now we get quite alot of variation in our choices 
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted June 23, 2007 02:27 PM |
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Quote:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/h3px/pitlord.gif
to
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/gallery.php?game=heroes5&image=pit_lord_concept&back=concept_art_inferno.shtml
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/images/creatures-icons/Fortress/ico_Axe_Fighter_128.jpg
http://www.heroes-centrum.com/download/wallpapery/h5-wall14.jpg
I'd be more afraid of a tree of wisdom then that.
I submit to you no... because we are true HOMM fans!
NOW WHOSE WITH ME?!
*crickets*
no offence but,how trivial....!!
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Ppl griveing,Ppl
Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
One Word : Life
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 23, 2007 02:32 PM |
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For crap's sake you quoted all this to post a line..?
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 03:29 PM |
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For crap's sake you quoted all this to post a line..?
well, dont you like to scroll... I sure do!! ... :S
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted June 23, 2007 04:12 PM |
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Quote:
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For crap's sake you quoted all this to post a line..?
well, dont you like to scroll... I sure do!! ... :S
better like this?
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Ppl griveing,Ppl
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One Word : Life
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 06:04 PM |
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Yes indeed! Thanks 
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted June 23, 2007 06:12 PM |
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I think if you gave the blade dancers the first strike ability they would be much more efficient as they would strike before the enemy could retaliate. Add that with either the agility of the bladesinger or the war dance combo of the war dance combo and you're looking at a pretty decent unit.
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted June 23, 2007 06:20 PM |
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I think if you gave the blade dancers the first strike ability they would be much more efficient as they would strike before the enemy could retaliate. Add that with either the agility of the bladesinger or the war dance combo of the war dance combo and you're looking at a pretty decent unit.
what do u mean by first strike??all units have first strike unless u mean no retaliation..this is not HOMM4
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Ppl griveing,Ppl
Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
One Word : Life
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 08:25 PM |
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Actully that was an ability i would like to have back... It was quite nice... And well, Paladins with first strike ... Muhahaha... Might be overpowered 
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted June 23, 2007 08:33 PM |
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hmm...
dancers are not the only units that could use a facelift, but they are by far not the worst
and guys, please learn how to link to pages and images, its not that hard, its in the FAQ really
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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted June 23, 2007 11:30 PM |
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dancers are not the only units that could use a facelift, but they are by far not the worst
and guys, please learn how to link to pages and images, its not that hard, its in the FAQ really
lol sorry about that. I had a bit too much "mead" last night and I think this topic being created had alot to do with that.
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