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Sha_Men
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posted October 25, 2001 01:09 PM |
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OFFTOPIC: Where were you posters?
Where were you posters like Hydra and Djive couple of months ago when with Oldtimer we were crying out loud that we had to talk with each other as many threads couldn't get enough posts?
I remember Oldtimer tried to start discussion about HoMM spells...it died very soon.
Same thing happened with many other threads too. Only responses from same old people. And many times from same old subjects.
Now it seems that there is more active posters who seem to be interested about HoMMIV...but now I am already full of HoMMIV knowledge and I just seem not to be able to answer.
The wait for HoMMIV has kinda made me braindeath...zombie like...saying...HOMM, HOMM, HOMM...
I think I'm going to tilt if that new installment come quickly. At least I can read these bright discussions about many fine issues. I just wish I would have time and effort to reply to them...maybe I'm just lazy or just disappointed that YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE.
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UnkaHaakon
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Famous Hero
happily tilting at windmills
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posted October 25, 2001 01:45 PM |
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::grins:: since you were courteous enough to label this 'Offtopic', I won't move it to the tavern unless it drops off into the sunset.
As a suggestion, perhaps going back into the Archives and reviving some of those old discussions might be in order?
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arachnid
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted October 25, 2001 05:42 PM |
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Good i think i can post this in here.........
ok a few weeks ago i asked if people could tell me what threads were worth reading (since im only on the computer once or twice a week at weekends(todays a special case  )) after this nothing happened until that is i opened my email and found 100+ msgs from Robot@heroes.community(or something like that). These messages all consisted of one line responses telling me exactly who has replied to each of my posts. um.....................i want it to stop now and i want to know
a) anyone else had this problem?
b) is robot a poster round here now?
c) is this a new community package or something?
d) who has all that time to spare going through all the posts to see who has replied to mine?
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted October 25, 2001 06:23 PM |
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Sha_Men:
You're probably not thinking straight. You can't possibly be full of HoMMIV knowledge and not able to answer questions about HoMM.
If you mean you don't have time, then I'd say it depends on you prioritzing the Tavern before the Altar. You appear to be sending in several messages there each day and the messages are not one-liners and so presumable takes some time to make.
As I'm sure you have noticed the Tavern now takes up a lot more traffic than the Altar (if nothing else the gist of Coldfyrius recent post in the Tavern should have alerted us to this fact).
If you start with going through the topics in the Altar (and the Library) you will likely have time to spare to hang out with Shae & Co in the Tavern too, or you could even try to get Shae to make some more posts over in the Altar. On the other hand if you start with the Tavern, you'll not have the effort to spare for the Altar or the Library. (At least I wouldn't have contemplated to be an active poster in all three forums myself.)
And if you have some threads you want revisited, then just bring them to the top like Unka suggested.
Ok, to answer your question. I guess this would be August or thereabouts... At this time I was busy doing some short stories for the ERPG I'm moderating. I barely spent any time on Heroes at this time. I didn't know of this place at all until late August...
Arachnid:
Blissfully, I've not experienced anything like this. Sounds a bit strange.
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StormWarning
Promising
Famous Hero
Archmage of Thunder
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posted October 25, 2001 09:38 PM |
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Arachnid...
Sounds like you checked the "Email Notification" box at the end of a post, so all replies to that thread are forwarded to you. And from the sound of it you either did it in several posts or you did it in a thread that's seen some heavy traffic.
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Sha_Men
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Supreme Hero
Jack-Of-No-Trades
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posted October 26, 2001 07:37 AM |
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Truth is...
Djive...good post there.
I'm sick of tired of reading about HoMMIV when I would like to be playing it. I somehow few months ago was ready to talk many issues about HoMMIV and speculate but now I feel like I have enough knowledge about the game but I would like to have in in my computer. The interested about game could be also faded little because some personal issues as I see that more important than talk about one game...
What comes to time issue. I think it's more what I said now above, the effort. Time is just excuse as I post other boards. I don't have to think about HoMMIV when I post in tavern. Thing is that I thought exactly like you do when I came here. I was in Altar of wishes all the time and I only randomly visited tavern example. But quickly things changed.
Altar of wishes started slow dying process. Some posters maybe tried to keep alive but there weren't enough posters that time. Then I moved more into other boards. We got more info about HoMMIV but still it didn't start enough good conservations. I know I should have been starting those but it's hard to start one if you aren't sure is anybody going to answer it.
What comes to Coldfyrious post. You should read answers too. Why people aren't interested about Altar? I think it's same as for me, they want play the game not talk it about anymore.
Shae&Co...that is funny. LOL
I have no power over Shae. If I would ask her come here she would probably be more interested not to come here. And it's not about Shae only. There are many good posters that could be posting here but it just that it's kinda too late for HoMMIV talk.
That's why I asked this question offtopic as I would so much talked about game then but only few were interested. Now those who are posting in Altar now possible feel same way as I was then.
Hang in there Djive and keep posting. I'm reading your and others post I just don't feel so great make my post of my own about HoMMIV. I just kinda wanted to show my support that you are all doing good job and maybe someone will join the conservations that you have and it doesn't happen like it happened those few months back.
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DarkTitan
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted October 26, 2001 08:25 AM |
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yeah i agree
When i first came to this site ai August i looked but didn't sign up. My favourite was the Alter of wishes. it had a fair bit of good topics and the Tavern was what you could say was suffering. Now that joined i went to the Alter to find a mess, because people are more into posting jokes and non hero related stuff. But i think when the game comes out, the tavern may even get busier, think about it, Oy yeah i battled this hero and it was cool. have you done that? by some poof. Do you get it? But the alter will start to burn better with a month or two down the track. People will start to post more on important topics. well that is my theory.
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted October 26, 2001 11:20 AM |
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It's one of those things you do it for a time and then move on to other things. I don't expect to have the time to go here indefinetely. I know I'll move on to something else some day.
I do read the threads in the Tavern, or anyway I read most of them. Usually I don't take the time to reply because I don't have the time to spare. This is similar to the way you're handling the Altar.
Yes, but that is the gist of Coldfyrius post. People prefer to talk about off-topic stuff with people they know. The percentage of on-topic stuff has decreased. This is not necessarily a bad thing for the community, but the popularity and easy talk of the tavern are now attracting newcomers who may otherwise have spent more time in the Altar or Library. On the other hand were it not for the easy talk of the tavern it is doubtful if some of these new members would have entered the community at all.
The popularity of the Tavern is not to be seen as a threat, but as an opportunity. The popularity attracts more people to the site and is therefore a potential asset to the site.
People have been saying it's too late for HoMM IV since the beginning of June. This is not a popular opinion to have on the Altar since it kind of implies that we're wasting our time. Even if things can't come into the original game there will be patches and expansions. I say if an idea has merit on its own, then the designers will implement it sooner or later. (Provided they get to hear the idea to begin with.)
And it's obvious to anyone who have read your arguments with Shae that you hold no power at all over her.
You're right in this being a temporary posting of mine. I'll post for as long as I feel like and then move on to something else, just as everybody else will do, sooner or later. That's simply the way these things work out.
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Hexa
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Legendary Hero
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posted October 26, 2001 11:25 AM |
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Right on the money their Djive!
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Sha_Men
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jack-Of-No-Trades
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posted October 26, 2001 11:33 AM |
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You have same kind of thought as I have...
Djive.
Those are exactly how I see things.
I'm sure that if HoMMIV attracts me when it comes out I'll be posting in Altar saying what I want from expansions and talking on-topic issues more.
I'm just sad that many of posters here now weren't around when I was ready to post about HoMMIV.
But as said it's good to see that Altar isn't dead but there are people who have resurrected it.
BTW did this happen before or after the mod was changed...*Grins*
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ThE_HyDrA
Admirable
Famous Hero
The Leader of all Hydras
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posted October 26, 2001 12:42 PM |
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Ah, i was an onlooker for about a month or so, and was putting off becoming a member on HC. At first, i was using HC as reference for information on HoMM 4. I loved the altar, and to me, LordPaul came up with all the popular threads that we see today, like, which creature shouldn't be in HoMM4?
HC used to be a very interesting site from the outside, only looking at posts and threads which had over 100 replies, and also Wyvern was setting the plan for the altar to become, what i think is now the best quality threads being made. But when i got on the inside, and became a member, i realised that HC was a lot more than a reference for information. It is also to develop a personality, and get to know some of the members from HC. Isn't that why Valeriy created the Tavern of The Rising Sun?
When Incubus and El_Diablo were wreaking havoc, just after i had become a member, i decided to get on nearly every day, and do my best to serve the community. I am now trying to make all sorts of threads about Heroes of Might and Magic IV, as its release date is getting closer and closer. And if we, at HC don't get a head start on other non-members of HC, the Altar is really and truly only for wishing.
I myself have now tryed to create a spell thread. Last night actually. You really couldn't say it is booming. But i try to make my posts long so people have more information to feed of and talk about. Oh yes, and to try and get QP  ::grins:: (Stole Unka's line)
Anyway, excellent thread Sha_Men, and i am glad it was in the altar of wishes. It is kept very tidy by UnkaHaakon.
I also hope that HC attracts members such as Djive and myself, so it becomes a better place, when maybe some of the more experienced people have left, such as Sha_Men and Shae_Trielle.
Excellent thread, again, Sha_Men. 
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"As the Dragon drew its breath, the Hydra pounced, swiftly but powerfully, and the Dragon was defeated.”
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The_Blue_Camel
Adventuring Hero
Bearer of the Mighty Camelnor
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posted October 26, 2001 09:53 PM |
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hmm...
i would hafta agree that there wont be many people here after h4 comes out cuz they will be... PLAYING H4 LIKE MADMEN!
no time for heroescommunity then...
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted October 31, 2001 12:01 AM |
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Edited By: Djive on 1 Nov 2001
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OFFTOPIC: Am I responsible?
Since Sha_Men started this offtopic-thread with a strange question... I'll continue it with another strange question.
Sometimes it's actually difficult to know what is the cause and what is the effect, and what role you really have had in what's happening.
I guess I could make this story in Wyvern's thread in the tavern about the HC, but since I was inspired by this thread I'll do it here. I'll try to keep it fairly short though.
At the time I started to come to the community, there was a lot of posters to the Altar. Some of the ones I noticed were Incubus, LordPaul, and Sha_Men, although already at that time I believe Sha_Men spent more time in the Tavern.
I recall seeing some posts of him in the Tavern, mostly about the subject of Red Stars (discussing them with Shae_Triellle and others), and I also remember the Away&Back Thread.
It wasn't all that difficult to notice that there had been very few awards for Red Stars in the Altar of Wishes. Actually, out of the last 1,000 posts or so I couldn't find a single one that had gotten a "bonus applied". (The only one I can remember was Wyvern's QP in Heroes 4 Beta!!! thread.)
So to remedy this situation I made a thread about list members recommending posts for getting qp:s, giving a few suggestion on posts which I thought were good candidates.
The other threads about Red stars had not really received much of a response. Things were discussed but nothing happened. But it seemed that mine for some reason started a chain affect. While there was only a few qp-rewards as a result of the Thread, it appeared at least to me that it started a chain reaction.
Now, it's just a bit more than a month since I started that little thread. At that time, I believe there were only three posters with 3 red stars, and barely anyone else had any qp:s.
Two of the new moderators (Unka and Zud) had 3 red stars when they became moderators and there's now perhaps 10 members with 3 red stars and 1 member with 4 red. Many of the more active posters now have qp:s.
Of course, the new moderators have done the bulk of the work, but would things had worked out the same without my thread?
Those who have read Wyvern's history in the tavern may remember that he mentions a post with the title "Guess who?". Guess where that post is. In my "Quality point proposals" thread!
So my thread became the place of a happy "reunion".
Now it seems perhaps (who knows?) that once again something unusual is happening. Shae_Trielle (and for that matter Oldtimer and Sikmar) have not been active posters in the Altar for a long time. At least I don't remember having seen them post more than the occasional post here. So suddenly I find no less than seven new topics started by Shae in the Altar.
It's not long ago since I used the term "Shae & Co" in this
very thread and then telling Sha_Men to tell Shae to post more in the Altar. So I'm wondering...
Am I responsible?
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Sha_Men
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Jack-Of-No-Trades
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posted October 31, 2001 07:25 AM |
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Of course not.
You are only zapper of toads.
Nothing else.
Truly...
I personally have kinda feeling that Chaos theory has more effect in reality than we ever thing.
Everything is related to other things.
I could tell my point of view but we cannot understand what makes us choose and do things. We can try to do it through "logical thinking" or have some kind of intuitive feeling but things happen and later we can combine some things together trying to explain "the chain reaction".
I think your posts about QPs had some effect. I think even if somebody denies it "rant of degeration" opened our eyes. Even if we are posting to tavern more I'm damn sure I try to be here in Altar little more time. I was thinking starting posting to library too but I don't play HoMM3 anymore and don't have really desire to post unless something overall things.
This was of course only my opinion and view so others can speak themselves.
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thunderknight
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 01, 2001 05:16 AM |
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Quote:
Good i think i can post this in here.........
ok a few weeks ago i asked if people could tell me what threads were worth reading (since im only on the computer once or twice a week at weekends(todays a special case )) after this nothing happened until that is i opened my email and found 100+ msgs from Robot@heroes.community(or something like that). These messages all consisted of one line responses telling me exactly who has replied to each of my posts. um.....................i want it to stop now and i want to know
a) anyone else had this problem?
b) is robot a poster round here now?
c) is this a new community package or something?
d) who has all that time to spare going through all the posts to see who has replied to mine?
Hi, Arachnid,
Ya, I also had this "problem". I think "robot" is not a poster, but this is a newly added community feature. At the beginning, I think it would be quite interesting and helpful. But it turns out to be a nightmare after I replied to the "naked girl" threads. Damn, I shouldn't respond to those threads if I know that I would receive >100 posts notifications after few days..........
So, is it a sort of "punishment" for ppl replying to "naked girls" threads ???
Well, I got to talk with Val for it.
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Wyvern
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted November 01, 2001 03:52 PM |
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Well, well... Djive, you say some things that are not true... My thread about the Chronology wasn't inspired by this thread. I actually didn't quite understand what was this thread about...
And maybe you will be disappointed, but Sha_Men showed his return in your thread because of me! Shae_Trielle had criticized the thread and I answered her. The first words of my reply were: "I wish Sha_Men was here, he would answer you better than me..." Because at that time I really didn't believe he will come back. So it is obvious why he returned in your thread...
Anyway, I notice that in July I couldn't live if I didn't get Heroes 4... Now I can live and even wait! I wonder if the Heroes Community is responsible for this...
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted November 01, 2001 04:55 PM |
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Well, well... Djive, you say some things that are not true... My thread about the Chronology wasn't inspired by this thread. I actually didn't quite understand what was this thread about...
=> There was a typo in the text. "it" should be "I" in one place. I've edited the post to correct it. The Chronology was not inspired by this thread.
And maybe you will be disappointed, but Sha_Men showed his return in your thread because of me! Shae_Trielle had criticized the thread and I answered her.
=> "The happy reunion" was more referring to Shae_Trielle's response to Sha_Men than Sha_Men's response to you. (But then again I have no wish to exclude you from the happy reunion.)
"Anyway, I notice that in July I couldn't live if I didn't get Heroes 4... Now I can live and even wait! I wonder if the Heroes Community is responsible for this..."
*lol*
Btw. the world "responsible" was carefully chosen as it makes the purpose of the post ambigious. And also because it gives any would-be replier a way to give a quick answer. Sha_Men was kind of correct when he replied with only "Zapper of Toads".
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Oldtimer
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted November 01, 2001 07:35 PM |
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Why haven't some of us been in the alter lately?
For me it's easy, I love coming up with new ideas and wishes for the game. Sha and I used to have long conversations about what we would like to see in the new game. At that time the game was slated for a Sept. release and everyone was excited. But... the... game... kept... getting... putt... back... and... the... momentum... sslloowweedd... down.
I like reading Djive's posts, and finding things out but as the game gets clearer there is less need for wishes.
Once the game gets going I expect alot of new strategy threads and that will lead to expansion wishes which I probably will be active in.
Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth.
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