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elmek
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2007 11:00 AM |
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Wasting an entire computer army and loosing almost nothing by spamming resurrection/raise dead is not an abuse? Or owning the map with a pheonix? The list can go on, you know...
Is there still anyone (ab)using resurrection/raise dead? It sucks right now. Phoenix can be killed, but vs invis AI is helpless, standing in a packs like morons asking for fireball/shower.
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exekutor
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2007 12:58 PM |
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Stalkers arent overpowered really. Dungeon already lawnmows everything in the earlygame. They could buy 3 turns with 6 one stacks anyway probably. With stalkers they just do it with zero losses
I'm not saying they're overpowered but right now AI cannot do anything vs invisibility. And wasting entire computer army in 2-3rd month with few stalkers is not an abuse? 
Honestly, what does it matter to you how other people play in single player against the AI?
You may surprise a human once with this tactic, but the next time he will kick your ass.
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Slapzech
Adventuring Hero
that didn't vote for Kaczynski
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posted November 26, 2007 01:00 PM |
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Wasting an entire computer army and loosing almost nothing by spamming resurrection/raise dead is not an abuse? Or owning the map with a pheonix? The list can go on, you know...
Is there still anyone (ab)using resurrection/raise dead? It sucks right now. Phoenix can be killed, but vs invis AI is helpless, standing in a packs like morons asking for fireball/shower.
Even if Raise Dead sucks right now - still it's more than enough to finish off AI withought losess. If you are going to critisize abusing, critisize every form of it, not one.
If this invisibility is too much for You - make the game more balanced on your own - make a mod in which there is no invisibility for Dungeon, and make this faction balanced in LATE GAMES.
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PaleMaster
Hired Hero
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posted November 26, 2007 06:25 PM |
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i think most of u can remember orcs town in aranthir's mission guarded with 400+ cyclops
here is the battle for capturing this town
[url=http://www.speedyshare.com/687965340.html]Aranthir VS Orcs[/url]
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted November 26, 2007 07:50 PM |
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MOTW + cold death really nice ^.^,but i got it at late game and i wasn't able to finish off these emralds so i was stuck during the game inside my very tiny area ^.^ but actually the master of ice + motw was the most helpful ^.^
enjoy
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 26, 2007 08:12 PM |
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Lol palemaster  It would be probably faster to puppet the cyclopses and start kicking their butt with the avatar of death. I forget if it had deadly strike at that mission but it should still be effective. Wonder if I have a same from that spot.
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PaleMaster
Hired Hero
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posted November 26, 2007 08:23 PM |
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@elvin
mate, u forgot, that garuna has expert shatter dark in this fight, so u cant puppet cyclops
also confusion isnt effective, because the cyclops can kill avatar of death with retaliation in 1 hit, u are then out of mana
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 26, 2007 08:59 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 23:32, 26 Nov 2007.
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Just experienced this first hand  Well slow and banshee howl with the death artifacts can make his initiative ridiculously slow, I'll try stealing the relaliation with a phoenix or ghost and blind occasionally while hitting with avatar. I'll post a reply if it works
Edit: Whoohoo it worked! 
Harder than I thought it would be and I had to improvise at some parts. Halfway through the battle I thought I'd blind it and start casting vulnerability and occasionally refresh slow. The rest of the time I stole retaliation from the cyclopses with a phantom of the ghosts( ) and start hitting with the phoenix, avatar, fire elementals and their phantom. Unfortunately it's hard to find a rhythm as you cannot keep wasp swarming it to infinity even with sorcery. This battle would have been a piece of cake if only I had summon hive. Two hives and it would never move again 
Btw my skills: 
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unixmage
Known Hero
Demon Slayer
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posted November 27, 2007 10:47 AM |
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That's the best battle of the whole campaign. It's also the reason I am getting zero satisfaction from the stronghold campaign. Warcries are just boring.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 28, 2007 12:15 PM |
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I'm afraid that samiekl is corrupting me to the dungeon way already. though a few things seem ridiculous.
Like this. Ok I had the cape and good power but damn, they just stand there waiting!
A slightly more satisfying example. We love killing paladins right? Their self sacrifice would be admirable if it wasn't foolish.
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Gallow
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Avenger
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posted November 28, 2007 12:38 PM |
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Nice replay videos  ,one day might to upload one
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted November 28, 2007 05:59 PM |
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Dungeon is such an abuser...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 28, 2007 06:58 PM |
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If the AI could judge better how to react to aoe spells and invisibility dungeon would be pretty balanced. Even if you say that AI is to be slaughtered anyway dungeon can pull some good victories unscathed and with almost no risk compared to other factions.
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sdfx
Famous Hero
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posted November 29, 2007 01:34 PM |
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Edited by sdfx at 13:36, 29 Nov 2007.
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I tried to estimate the potential of firewall. I used Kythra(empathy, swift mind, ignite, arcane excellence) with skull of markal, phoenix cape, ring of speed, slippers, book of power, necklace of the lion and the whole Sar-isus set, visited 3 morale boosting locations(flag, temple, fountain) before battle.
here
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pinkspear
Known Hero
Crazy like a fool
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posted November 29, 2007 03:44 PM |
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Nice replay, however it's almost impossible to get all those skills and arties in a regular game.
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Lord_Evil
Famous Hero
Evil lolcat
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posted November 29, 2007 04:14 PM |
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help
why each time when i click on one of your links instend of your battle it opens a window to funny-games.biz?
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 29, 2007 04:14 PM |
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Nice replay, however it's almost impossible to get all those skills and arties in a regular game.
Sure but the firewall trick works faster against groups of 30 devils. No matter how you slice it it gives you many free rounds of hero assault.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 29, 2007 04:25 PM |
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Not to mention that you can cast another firewall on large units.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted November 29, 2007 05:55 PM |
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Is this going to turn into a "dungeon is imba?" thing?
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted November 29, 2007 05:58 PM |
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Nah, it's more like the AI is ***.
Oh, I think I'll attack the first aid tent now, that's really hurting me...
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