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mamgaeater
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posted January 17, 2008 10:32 PM |
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Erm, Zoltan is one of the top three necromancers . He only lets his opponents cast the same spell once, then its blocked for the duration of the battle. Against other Necromancers, that's deadly. Against Blessers or Heroes dependent on one DES. Magic spell, its equally deadly. Inferno and Dungeon, not so much. Stronghold not at all. Neither is Fortress. After, they are just specializations. They aren't supposed to be the sole weapon you have. Oh, and Vladimir? Saying that its better to go to damage spells with necromancers is like suggesting Stronghold should go without Blood Rage. Its just not possible. Just pump a bigger bonus into Vladimir and lower the cost by half.
i said that zoltan (unable to get ultimate perk) is a good counter for spell specialty heroes.
ie: and what of the case of zoltan meaning what if alastor was to battle zoltan.
i didn't say anything about necromancers going for destructive anyway.
i just said that vladmir has a weak spec.
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Anakrom
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posted January 17, 2008 11:32 PM |
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if alastor was to battle zoltan
Who would cast Confusion against undead anyway?
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Elvin
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posted January 17, 2008 11:33 PM |
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Anyone with Sandro's cloak 
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sith_of_ziost
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posted January 18, 2008 12:02 AM |
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Touché, Elvin. But Sandro's Cloak is rightfully property of the Necropolis. So, if the Demons stole it, they have to be punished by the Necromancers. They'd bind their soul to the human world to die slowly from exposure. Hahahaha! But anyway, ahora yo te
entiendo (Now I understand you). I was a little confused. Stupid foggy dead brain of mine. Oh wait, I don't need a brain, I'm undead. Knowledge is stored within me. HAHAHA!
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 12:04 AM |
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Me feels very confused 
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sith_of_ziost
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posted January 18, 2008 12:14 AM |
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Twas the point!
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 12:17 AM |
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Right, you cast confusion  Anyway to not drift too much from the subject I have to mention that considering Deleb weak is silly.
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mamgaeater
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posted January 18, 2008 12:21 AM |
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but its true...
deleb at level 30 has a spellpower 6-7 triple fireball. and anyone with magic resistance should have an easytime.
vitirio at level 30 has a high powered balistae
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sith_of_ziost
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posted January 18, 2008 12:46 AM |
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Nearly as bad as Orlando's Ballista in the Campaign. Indeed Deleb is not underpowered. It just takes a little to get her up to speed.
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 12:56 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:57, 18 Jan 2008.
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Her only problem is not being to get flaming ballista as fast as the orcs. Discussing lvl 30 is meaningless, a game will be over long before that and she'll have a much better earlygame than the others(unless the others are lucky) even with a nerfed special. The idea is to measure how much of an advantage you will have gained by the time you face your opponent and both special and starting skills are ideal for that.
Nearly as bad as Orlando's says it all 
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mamgaeater
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posted January 18, 2008 01:08 AM |
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orlando has that init thing though...
besides level 5 vitirio vs level 5 deleb balistae is still quite uneven.
vitirio has that crucial attack boost early game.
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Elvin
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posted January 18, 2008 01:44 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that if you try both heroes at lvl 10 she will be better unless you get flaming arrows with Vittorio. I'll test that when I get the chance.
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Edwin_Yang
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posted January 18, 2008 03:33 AM |
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some suck heroes have interesting ways to play...
imagine that Alastor with the Counter Spell(start with sorcery and mana regenation makes sure he could get it quickly) and lion's spirit set,it could be a nightmare for the magic factions,even the spell casters in the hero's army could do nothing to help duel to Alastor's specializition...
well.....just a crazy imagination..
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