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Gnoll_Mage
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posted January 20, 2008 12:11 AM |
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How to stitch up the hole in its mouth - make the textures double-sided! 
Go into the material properties for the third material and change Is2Sided to true. Ought to work. Managed to remove the shadows? I've never touched the ReceiveShadow property btw.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 20, 2008 12:17 AM |
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Oh, those holes are deliberate - I didn't like the metal bar in his mouth. Might try to fix it up later though. I'm working on the shadow problem now 
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Gnoll_Mage
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 20, 2008 12:44 AM |
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No you were right to remove it, I know it was deliberate, but you can still stitch it up with blue skin, it does look okay!
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2ndHero
Famous Hero
Floppy Slayer
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posted January 20, 2008 01:09 PM |
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I realise that, but 2ndHero made the Salamander textures so I'd need his permission before I modify them in any way. And the jaw problem is in the Basilisks too, it's necessary.
You can edit them. I didn't notice the hole in the jaw because I tested it with Necro terrain which is much darker than snow terrain.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted January 20, 2008 01:20 PM |
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Edited by okrane at 13:23, 20 Jan 2008.
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imo the basilisk is better than its upgrades in terms of abilities...
But then again, I don't actually understand the concept of upgrading a neutral creature. Picture an external creature dwelling for example: how would you upgrade it? And if the original creature and its upgrades were all available, why would you ever recruit the non-upgraded version.
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radar
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Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted January 20, 2008 07:14 PM |
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Ceph, where's the Complete folder? You put only pak file to download.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 20, 2008 07:16 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 18:32, 21 Jan 2008.
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Okay, I've clearly made a few stupid mistakes so far.
Give me a day or two and I'll do my best to fix everything, right now I'm pretty busy.
@Okrane: Two words. Hill Fort. And if you don't like my balancing, please, by all means post your own ideal stats.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted January 21, 2008 11:27 AM |
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do you mean that i have extract all files to Tote data folder or only tote folder? i am pretty dumb
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 21, 2008 11:46 AM |
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imo the basilisk is better than its upgrades in terms of abilities...
But then again, I don't actually understand the concept of upgrading a neutral creature. Picture an external creature dwelling for example: how would you upgrade it? And if the original creature and its upgrades were all available, why would you ever recruit the non-upgraded version.
So far, there's no dwellings, I'm currently working on the NCF-mod dwellings and I'm still hesitating about making the upgrades available. So basically you'd be forced to recruit only the basic neutrals and hope to find a hill fort.
Another interesting point about the upgrades is that if you fight a stack of neutral, there can be one or 2 stacks of upgraded ones too
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 21, 2008 09:15 PM |
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hey, nice work! I had the same kind of idea.
could you make the cavern lizard?
I think it would basically be a dark raider without the rider.
neutral unit of level 4, linked to the dungeon.
you can upgrade it to dark raider.
its abilities are the "lizard bite" and the wolf bite ("pack hunter"?)
I can post its stats tomorrow.
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okrane
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posted January 22, 2008 01:10 PM |
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Edited by okrane at 13:17, 22 Jan 2008.
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imo the basilisk is better than its upgrades in terms of abilities...
But then again, I don't actually understand the concept of upgrading a neutral creature. Picture an external creature dwelling for example: how would you upgrade it? And if the original creature and its upgrades were all available, why would you ever recruit the non-upgraded version.
So far, there's no dwellings, I'm currently working on the NCF-mod dwellings and I'm still hesitating about making the upgrades available. So basically you'd be forced to recruit only the basic neutrals and hope to find a hill fort.
Another interesting point about the upgrades is that if you fight a stack of neutral, there can be one or 2 stacks of upgraded ones too
Point taken.
Still, my remark to the mod maker would be: why make the upgrades weaker in terms of abilities?
Basilisk: Death Stare, No Enemy Retaliation, Agility
Greater Basilisk (I don't like the model - too many different colors/textures): Death Stare, Armoured, Lizard Bite.
Salamander: No Enemy Retaliation, Agility, Immune to Fire, Enraged.
The greater one loses no retaliation and Agility to gain Lizard Bite and Armored.
First of all, Armored is pretty worthless, situational at most whereas agility is just plain imba.
Lizard Bite is good but No retaliation is also good.
Salamander would be good with fire breath or something. Or another idea: You could give them the torpor ability vampires have, as a substitute from the petrify they had in heroes 3
Suggestion:
Basilisk: Death Stare, Lizard Bite, Armored
Greater Basilisk: Death Stare, Lizard Bite, Torpor, Agility
Salamander: Death Stare, Agility, Fire Breath, No retal
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Gnoll_Mage
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 22, 2008 06:42 PM |
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There are some things that should stay purely because they fit the creature - immunity to fire, for example. In fact, all the abilities fit perfectly. I'm not entirely sure there needs to be abilities which obviously get better.
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okrane
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posted January 22, 2008 08:37 PM |
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an upgrade means it gets better. Now if you wanna keep some specificity about it that's a whole other problem...
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 22, 2008 08:48 PM |
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Still, my remark to the mod maker would be: why make the upgrades weaker in terms of abilities?
Because I ain't no balancer But I made an effort, give me a break.
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I don't like the model - too many different colors/textures
A matter of opinion. I like them personally... but then I made them so I'm biased.
Anyway I've almost got everything ready, but the one thing that's causing me trouble is the shadows. I'll figure out the problem soon
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Gnoll_Mage
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 22, 2008 11:07 PM |
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It took little time for me to sort out the shadows. You just need to set the cast shadow property to false, false, true for the three materials respectively. But I neglected to mention last time, that you must save and reload the map once you have made the change, for the shadows to update! 
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okrane
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posted January 22, 2008 11:29 PM |
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Still, my remark to the mod maker would be: why make the upgrades weaker in terms of abilities?
Because I ain't no balancer But I made an effort, give me a break.
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I don't like the model - too many different colors/textures
A matter of opinion. I like them personally... but then I made them so I'm biased.
Anyway I've almost got everything ready, but the one thing that's causing me trouble is the shadows. I'll figure out the problem soon
Well, I wasn't flaming or anything... just gave a sugestion how to make it better. Simply put, you could just swap the abilities of the basilisk with the greater basilisk and it's great.
Don't forget about Torpor: it might save their reputation as petrifying creatures.
About the model: well, I love the basilisk and salamander as they look wild. The greater one seems like having clothes on.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 22, 2008 11:34 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 17:31, 24 Jan 2008.
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Well, I wasn't flaming or anything... just gave a sugestion how to make it better. Simply put, you could just swap the abilities of the basilisk with the greater basilisk and it's great.
Hey, no problem, I welcome criticism, it's just that I would like a few more opinions on the matter before I change anything.
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About the model: well, I love the basilisk and salamander as they look wild. The greater one seems like having clothes on.
I would have done something about that but it's not really possible due to the shape of the model (which we can't edit), so I just explained it away in the creature description.
Anyway, another version has been uploaded here and on the first post, with all bugs fixed. The jaw-holes have been plugged up nicely, shadows have been tweaked properly and my idiotic file structure mistake is amended. I would have added some appropriate death sound, but I couldn't manage to program it.
http://www.speedyshare.com/344390727.html (Obsolete due to new, better version)
Thanks a lot for your advice on shadows Gnoll Mage (the problem was yet another stupid mistake from me), your name has been added to the credits. 
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"Those who forget their history are inevitably doomed to repeat it." —Proverb, Might and Magic VIII
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suraklin
Hired Hero
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posted January 23, 2008 12:50 AM |
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thanks for the update! its a cool mod!
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted January 23, 2008 10:14 PM |
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Greater Basilisk could fit very well with torpor and lizard bite. And maybe + immune to blind
Salamander with No enemy retaliation, immune to fire and agility + fire breath
Just my suggestions.
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Gnoll_Mage
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Supreme Hero
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posted January 24, 2008 12:59 AM |
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Yay, thanks Cepheus!
Can I ask - why is there a loose icon file in the rar, just so people can see what's in the pak?
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