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Momo
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posted March 26, 2008 02:35 PM |
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-1 because that's stupid, the personality isn't determined by your race.
This should then be a -1 for the story, not for cohesiveness. Not that it changes much. However, in most fantasy settlings the personality influences heavily your way of seeing the world - there is no way to prove if it is true or not, because the only civilization in the real world it's the human one.
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Fauch
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posted March 26, 2008 04:03 PM |
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probably because I mark the coherence instead of the cohesiveness (it's not the exact same thing, right?)
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted March 27, 2008 10:40 PM |
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Cohesiveness: 9.5/10;The only thing that it lacks is proper explaination for the non-halfling creatures. That they prefer Halflings over Elves is far to ambiguous. Otherwise no complaints.
Imagination/creativity/originality/wow factor: 12/15; it is an original variant on the normal use of Halflings. Although I think that you have overdone the third tier, they are just plain weird to me.
Backstory: 8/10; It's a bit aniclimactic and it doesn't realy stand out to me.
Battle aspects 7/10; It's looks verry nice, but the fact that is singularly based on countering seems impractical.
Discretionary: 3/5; Your descriptions of both units and heroes deserve credit.
Overal Score: 39.5/50
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kookastar
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posted March 30, 2008 01:23 AM |
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Tobius's revised rating
The Burrows
Cohesiveness(3+3)=6 I dislike Dragons and Treants going with Halflings, apart from halflings as a faction fitting into HoMM
Imagination(5+4+2)=11 I like your inventive ideas, but you copied a large part from Heroes 4 (creature system)
Back Story(1+2)=3 You simply rewrite the known story instead of "expanding on one of the HOMM universes". Furthermore the idea of Haflings being children of men and elves is just weird. Besides the brief history a description of the halflings is missing.
Battle Facets(3+4)=7 Seems to be interesting, but hard to master as it is defensively-minded
Discretionary: +5 for the in-depth descriptions of the outward appearance, the intriguing fighting system, the description of Burrow's heroes, and the alteration of the game mechanics; -1 for no emblem
Total Score=31
How I graded these:
Cohesiveness (Internal Coherence [1-5]+HoMM Compatibility [1-5])
Imagination (Creativity [1-5]+Innovations [1-5]+Originality[1-5])
Back Story (How well it expands on one of the HoMM universes [1-5]+How interesting it was to me [1-5])
Battle Facets (Variety [1-5]+Inventive Aspects [1-5])
Discretionary (Bonus for exceptional efforts[1-5])
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Mytical
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Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted March 30, 2008 08:58 AM |
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Mods (like Kookastar) can see original posts and the edits. So they will know, but I too see no rules about guest judges changing their score. The only exception would be lowering a score (might be vindictiveness), don't think raising a score would be seen poorly.
Cohesiveness:10/10 This one is going to get near perfect scores, it is simply an amazing one.
Inventiveness: 14/15
Background: 9/10
Battle:9/10
Discretionary:5/5
Total 47/50
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Momo
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posted March 30, 2008 01:38 PM |
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Cohesiveness(3+3)=6 I dislike Dragons and Treants going with Halflings, apart from halflings as a faction fitting into HoMM
Imagination(5+4+2)=11 I like your inventive ideas, but you copied a large part from Heroes 4 (creature system)
If you read this very same thread, you discover that Heroes 4 creatures' system and the one of my Heroes 6 (from where this town originated) have nothing to do one with the other. However, I'm satisfied with a low mark here, because in writing things like "go for satyr or leprechaun" I generated this confusion. So, my bad.
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Back Story(1+2)=3 You simply rewrite the known story instead of \"expanding on one of the HOMM universes\". Furthermore the idea of Haflings being children of men and elves is just weird.
Why everyone keeps saying this? Halflings are D&D's hobbits, and hobbits ARE INDEED half-elf, half-human. If this feels weird to you, go complain with Tolkien.
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Snatch
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posted March 30, 2008 03:40 PM |
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Why everyone keeps saying this? Halflings are D&D's hobbits, and hobbits ARE INDEED half-elf, half-human. If this feels weird to you, go complain with Tolkien.
Halflings and hobbits are fantasy creatures at first. Whereas some aspects are almost the same to identify a race as halflings others can be different from one fantasy world to another. So why complain with Tolkien? It was your decision to implement the halflings this way and with this characteristics.
I think it feels a bit weird to most of us because we are used to that half-elves are in general and in most fantasy worlds children of elves and humans. Or maybe it is a matter of phrasing. Saying that many races evolved from one or two core races and then emerged into what they are now over the centuries would have created a slightly other feeling.
And just because I'm curious where does Tolien say that hobbits are children of elves and humans? I'm a fan of Lord of the rings but my background informations about Tolkiens world are lacking I fear.
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The_Mentat
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posted April 02, 2008 10:30 PM |
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Cohesiveness; 10/10
Imagination: 13/15 – too many halflings for me (4 of 8 creatures), but the creature system is great (though it isn’t explained in the main post).
Back Story: 10/10
Battle Facetts: 8/10 – 3/3 for the tactical description, a bit few new abilities
Discretionary: 2/5 – no pictures! You could have used some images from Pan’s Labyrinth (a great movie  ) for the description of the Satyr for example.
Total Score: 43/50
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Momo
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posted April 03, 2008 12:04 AM |
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Discretionary: 2/5 – no pictures! You could have used some images from Pan’s Labyrinth (a great movie ) for the description of the Satyr for example.
Yes, and I could also have used kithkins from Magic The Gathering for the images, some of theme were fitting a lot. Problem being I've been expressedly told in the main thread that images from known sources (let's say a FF game, or a MtG expansion) were forbidden, so I tried to respect the rules.
However, I probably misunderstood, because I've seen plenty of images used from known sources, including Magic The Gathering itself. So the low mark it's on me.
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friendofgunnar
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able to speed up time
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posted April 12, 2008 05:59 AM |
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The Burrows:
FriendofGunnar
Cohesiveness:10/10
Imagination:12/15 lol at "The treegang is a treant with five halflings among the branches. And, they throw rocks."
Back story: 9/10
Battle facets:10/10 lol at "unseen hands". The whole "live off the land" technique is new and interesting. 
"Stanis will retain part of his army when escaping from a fight. The percentage increases as levels go up, until 100%." neat trick.
Discretionary: 4/5 A lot of inventive imagery, no pixels though.
Heheh, a pretty great faction.
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Kookastar
Cohesiveness: 8 points
Imagination/creativity/originality/wow factor: 11 points –closely linked to tolkein but some originality in descriptions
Back story: 8 points
Battle facets: 8 - I loved this, “Upgrades to Pumpkinterceptor”
Discretionary: 3 –went into creating a fun choice of troops for people to play that suited the faction, amusing descriptions and ideas.
Total: 38
TDL
Cohesiveness(max 10) : 8
Creativity (max 10): 9
Backstory (max 10): 8
Battle Facets (max 15): 10
additional (max 5): 5
I dislike the creature part on the whole, although I love 2 critter possibility… many points deducted for tolkienism which is not homm
Total (max 50):40
Guest Judge's Score : 41.33 (Judges grades are weighed differently depending on how many factions they graded)
Judges Score: (44 + 38 + 40) / 3 = 40.67
Final Score: 41.00
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