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WarLore
Famous Hero
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posted May 25, 2008 07:37 PM |
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about wind and war dancers.wind dancers are better in early and mid game because they agility,but in late game,it doesnt matter have wind or war dancer in your army agaisnt enemy hero,they both die fast mostly in first blow against them.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted May 25, 2008 07:40 PM |
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I actually thought fortress had the best implemented o nes.
All of them are more offensive , How can you say they got tougher?
Yes, the only upgrade I can think of that has gotten more defensive is the Battlerager compared to the Berserker.
maybe because...
shield guard : defensive. mountain guard : defensive
skirmisher : defensive. harpoonner : balanced
black bear rider : defensive. white bear rider : defensive
berserker : offensive. battle rager : balanced
rune patriarch : balanced (?) rune keeper : balanced (?)
flame lord : defensive. thunder thane : defensive
magma dragon : defensive. lava dragon : defensive
offensive = 1
balanced = 4
defensive = 9
actually i think lavas,white bear's,flame lord and thunder thane are more offensive than defensive
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 25, 2008 09:18 PM |
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more offensive than their alternative.
the white bear has attack 8 defense 12
the thane attack 15 defense 24
the dragon is slow and has an insane defense
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted May 26, 2008 07:35 AM |
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more offensive than their alternative.
the white bear has attack 8 defense 12
the thane attack 15 defense 24
the dragon is slow and has an insane defense
true and plus hero's defence
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Moonstryder
Hired Hero
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posted May 26, 2008 07:45 AM |
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The heroes 4 Creature system wasn't Awful just not perfected enough IMO. If they could make you Choose between say, Genies or Djinns, Halflings or Gremlins, Naga or Rakshasa with Alternate upgrades for each then I would absolutely love the system.... but not choosing between Monks or Crusaders wtf were they thinking?
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted May 26, 2008 07:54 AM |
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heroes4 was stupid and the end of 3do.
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arxur
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 26, 2008 07:56 AM |
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I wouldn't say it was stupid. It was just not enough for a true heroes game.
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted May 30, 2008 02:55 PM |
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Maybe it's stupid, but i always pick the most of the creatures by theire look!
Example:
I prefer War Dancers because of theire tattoos and Combo! They looks way more awesome than thoose Wind dancers with ugly blue armor!
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zamfir
Promising
Supreme Hero
Allez allez allez
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posted May 30, 2008 04:02 PM |
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Alternate add some diversity, at least visual. They make the game fresher for ALL factions.
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted May 30, 2008 04:42 PM |
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Some of the upgrades are just plain stupid imo...........
Alot of the Red Haven units is better than normal haven, some of the new ones is WAY better than previus ones. Others is just a blucopi with altered stats.....
A FEW are interisting, most are not.
Stuff like Banshee is cool, Vamp Princes are better than Lords imo....
And soo heckins on.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted May 31, 2008 03:58 PM |
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It is great - but you tend to choose the same upgrades EVERYTIME which makes the game a bit boring, or is it just me?
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arxur
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 31, 2008 04:04 PM |
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Well, I think both upgrades are useful. It's always depends on the situation which one I choose.
But that is true, that some alternative creature are far better than the original. The best examples are gremlin sabotours and Haven's blue and red archers...
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 31, 2008 05:58 PM |
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and the ingeneer repairs golems, not bad. it's probably why he is weaker.
marksman + unicorn bow (+ teleporting assault) = 
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Laue
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 31, 2008 07:33 PM |
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Wouldn't teleport assault be enough, you don't need that bow once the marksman is close. Same with master/arcane hunters. Get that bow and masters dominate, I think...
Anyway every alternate upgrade has it's uses IMO, well exept horned overseers, they are just inferior to leapers. For example when you get archer's dream bow, won't master hunters, marksmen be awesome?
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jormungand
Adventuring Hero
The Hammer of Hate
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posted July 19, 2008 02:57 PM |
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In fact it's quiet balanced, because every creature has it's own strong and weak points and it's own uses . altough some uses are more usefull than others (example: Dungeon lizards)
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