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posted August 02, 2008 02:43 PM |
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Edited by Cepheus at 14:44, 02 Aug 2008.
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It must have sounded crap, because just look at the quality of the speech in games from the early 90s. Non-existent!
This whole discussion is devastating off topic anyway and should be burninated. Apologies to Asheera for derailing. Thank you all and have a nice day.
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posted August 02, 2008 02:46 PM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 14:46, 02 Aug 2008.
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Quote: 1) Speech and dubbing... this was back in the 16-bit PCM sound format era, when "speech" in computer games had recently been made possible (IIRC MM4 was the first game to include something like this). Try getting CGI characters to move their lips realistically with techonology as limited as that 
Well if the game has SOUND, then it can have SPEECH in cutscenes, after all it's just that... sound 
16-bit PCM is the most widely used format even today (24-bit and 32-bit ONLY FOR PRODUCTION STAGE, otherwise the noise is below the -80 dB scale in 16-bit, hardly noticeable). I think you meant 8-bit, right?
In pre-rendered movies, you only have two things:
1) a sequence of images to draw on screen (VERY cheap cost in terms of performance, IF not compressed). If your computer can draw a full-screen image, it can draw a movie as well.
2) a soundtrack, with everything mixed in one BIG sound. Speech, sound effects, etc... are just one single sound in movies, one big one. You don't need any "mixing" because all the things are pre-calculated and pre-encoded in the movie. Since it's not interactive (a movie that is).
Quote: 3) MM4 and 5 were not low-resolution games (but which kind of resolution do you mean? image, digital?) - they were fullscreen 
The resolution of the screen or movie. If the full screen was 320x200 back then, there is hardly any point in making a movie with higher resolution. And obviously, even today, you can STRETCH the encoded movie to full screen. Say, I can put a 320x200 movie into my full screen 1024x768 by stretching (but will of course be SLOWER than in 320x200, but today it's more than enough).
Quote: 4) As aforementioned, they could probably not afford / be bothered with doing anything of the sort.
Agreed. Movies need quite a huge budget.
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posted August 02, 2008 02:47 PM |
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Well how about we move that discussion over to my Musicians Tavern?
Could get quite interesting. 
Sorry Asheera for ruining your topic.
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posted August 02, 2008 02:47 PM |
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This is for all of those who couldn't get the subtitles of Vokial's vid working.
Working subtitles
BOOM Headshot! 
You could have obted to use a little less lineage Ash.
Diablo has good vids so does age of empires and age of wonders.
Oh btw. why does kooka look like she is twelve.
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posted August 02, 2008 02:53 PM |
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Quote: Diablo has good vids so does age of empires and age of wonders.
But I don't have them
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posted August 02, 2008 02:58 PM |
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Just download the vids from youtube or download the whole games. They aren't too big either, well, diablo 2 is four cds but only download the cinematics cd.
Maybe you should do the subtitles too. They are great in vokials vid.
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posted August 02, 2008 03:40 PM |
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Quote: This is for all of those who couldn't get the subtitles of Vokial's vid working.
Working subtitles
I can't download that. And YouTube doesn't support subtitles unfortunately
And about Diablo 2 Cinematics: They are great, I agree, but a little too long and not much action... doesn't really fit the theme of this thread
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posted August 02, 2008 06:55 PM |
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Still, I. We if we don't use MM4-5 videos, we shoud use the MM 6-8 ones. You cannot call them "Slide show" videos.
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posted August 02, 2008 08:32 PM |
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posted August 02, 2008 08:45 PM |
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Except for the MM4-5 videos, where are only 2 or people 
For example, my ideas:
Might and Magic 4 Intro:
Actors:
Valery as Crodo
TheDeath as Lord Xeen
KD as King Burlock
HC's accounts as Peasants
William as Xeen's Pet
Might and Magic 4 Outro:
Actors:
Valery as Crodo
KD as King Burlock
Might and Magic 5 Intro:
Actors:
Valery as The Dragon King
KD as Sheltem / Lord Alamar
Moderators as "The Monsters" (LOL "We serve, KD!")
Asheera as "The Princess"
Eugen as that elf druid
Baklava as the dragon
Might and Magic 5 Outro:
Actors:
Lith_Marethor as Corak
KD as Sheltem / Lord Alamar
If you wanna know, then i will psot, how I renamed the tilte of Might and Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic games
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posted August 02, 2008 08:46 PM |
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Quote: Except for the MM4-5 videos, where are only 2 or people 
I was talking about the "Might & Magic VII Intro"
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posted August 02, 2008 08:49 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: Except for the MM4-5 videos, where are only 2 or people 
I was talking about the "Might & Magic VII Intro"
Yes, I know
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posted August 02, 2008 09:07 PM |
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Quote:
Quote: This is for all of those who couldn't get the subtitles of Vokial's vid working.
Working subtitles
I can't download that. And YouTube doesn't support subtitles unfortunately
And about Diablo 2 Cinematics: They are great, I agree, but a little too long and not much action... doesn't really fit the theme of this thread
Strange. It downloads all right with me. Maybe a short server problem? But if it still refuses to work here's what I did. Just change all the '.' in the seconds to ','.
Youtube doesn't support subtitles but you can burn them into the film. If you don't know how here's a link. I know that way works. I have burned subtitles to a few movie and done fine.
Well you can slice and dice the cinematics a bit and if you get subtitles then little slow parts won't be a problem.
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posted August 02, 2008 09:44 PM |
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Spam and Moderation 5 - Ending
Look at it Unfortenetly Movie Maker doesen't accept videos downloaded from YouTube, so I cannot burn sublites to it, and YouTube doesen't accept sublites.
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posted August 02, 2008 09:54 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 22:09, 02 Aug 2008.
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@Joonas: Ok, managed to download it this time I think it was a server problem.
Quote: Youtube doesn't support subtitles but you can burn them into the film. If you don't know how here's a link. I know that way works. I have burned subtitles to a few movie and done fine.
I tried that program but it doesn't seem to work with .wmv, the format Windows Movie Maker creates. Converting it into .avi will lower the quality even further (as if YouTube doesn't have a bad quality already) and I don't even know how to convert it. There's also the problem of downloading the cinematic... can you give me a link to "Diablo 2 - Cinematic 3 - Mephisto's Jungle" movie? That's the only one I think could work nicely.
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posted August 02, 2008 11:24 PM |
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Are you sure?
What format exactly does the WMM use?
I know it worked fine with vokials vid and no loss in quality.
Might it be a codec problem? I needed this codec to get it working with vokials file.
As for that video, do you mean this? The same video that I had in mind from diablo.
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posted August 03, 2008 02:47 PM |
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Yes, that's the Vid. But I was hoping to have a link to the REAL cinematic, not the YouTube one (because YouTube has bad quality). And I hope it's in .avi or something like that so I can add subtitles
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posted August 03, 2008 03:25 PM |
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Couldn't find the original bink videos from anywhere but if you want I could sent it to you through MSN. Or a converted .avi version. You can download the cinematics cd through torrents and get all the videos from there (they are packed in an mpq file).
If you want me to send the file to you just PM me.
Oh and what format does the moviemaker use?
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posted August 03, 2008 03:28 PM |
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The Bink video or Avi would be great.
I don't think I want to download the whole CD though
And Windows Movie Maker can use any kind of file Windows Media Player can read, but when you save the movie it's always .wmv (Windows Media Video)
However, if I have the bink file (I can convert it to avi) or avi, then I can add the subtitles before I use Windows Movie Maker to cut some things. This way there'll be no format issues
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posted August 03, 2008 03:36 PM |
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Excellent work... wait, i dont see a DS = (
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