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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Heroes 5 TotE latest patch information - Patch 3.1
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted August 26, 2008 05:32 PM

I wish I knew more but I'm not much of a data expert. Some of the mods still work - for example my Xazardous mods with the portrait background - but that's something to request in the modder's workshop. No word on the manual yet, I'll be sure to update when I find something.

Another thing, lately there have been discovered some changes that were not mentioned in the data files(at least where the others were) as was the nerfing of flaming arrows so it is possible there are more we are not aware of.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted August 26, 2008 05:38 PM

At least they did smth about Flaming arrows Finally some good news!

Keep up the valuable messenger mission, Elvin

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted August 26, 2008 05:40 PM

And actually something we had proposed back in the mod, ignoring 50% defense
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted August 26, 2008 06:13 PM

this is the formula to get the % of chance that a creature will trigger a special ability :

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)

I see 2 ways the ProcFactor could be incorporated

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)* ProcFactor

or

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)
and then : Probabilité = Probabilité * ProcFactor (yeah, that makes sense in programming)

the probability is way higher in the 2nd case. I guess it gets capped between 5 and 75% after.

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted August 26, 2008 07:55 PM

Quote:
this is the formula to get the % of chance that a creature will trigger a special ability :

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)

I see 2 ways the ProcFactor could be incorporated

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)* ProcFactor

or

Probabilité = 25% + 3% * (TotalPV / TotalPVCible)
and then : Probabilité = Probabilité * ProcFactor (yeah, that makes sense in programming)

the probability is way higher in the 2nd case. I guess it gets capped between 5 and 75% after.


In either case, there is one thing that is not accounted for in this:

Why does some of the creatures have a 'Proc'-entry with the value of 1?

It might make sense if all abilities had a proc-entry (cause then 1 was simply those that were not changed) but that doesn't seem to be the case, right? Or perhaps they do - thinking about it, maybe they are all there ... did anybody check this?
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Fauch
Fauch


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posted August 26, 2008 08:05 PM

multiplying by a null variable will probably cause an error yes (unless null=0 by default)

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lalalawen
lalalawen

Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2008 10:31 AM

Just found out a quite amusing bug after patch 3.1.
I'm in the middle of a fight with Sylvan against a group of Wraiths, and after my pristine attacks, I'm surprised to find out that there's no retaliation delievered by the Wraith. "How come?" I thought and then I looked into the message bar......
"Pristine Unicorn blinded Wraith!"  
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted August 27, 2008 10:49 AM

Quote:
Just found out a quite amusing bug after patch 3.1.
I'm in the middle of a fight with Sylvan against a group of Wraiths, and after my pristine attacks, I'm surprised to find out that there's no retaliation delievered by the Wraith. "How come?" I thought and then I looked into the message bar......
"Pristine Unicorn blinded Wraith!"  

Did you have Sandro's Cloak on you by any chance?

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted August 27, 2008 11:55 AM

I remember I got the same message when attacking magnetic golems but they were unaffected
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted August 27, 2008 12:06 PM

I got my titans torpor-ed. Isn't that a mind effect? >_> The name suggests it. So Titans should be immune to it.

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lalalawen
lalalawen

Tavern Dweller
posted August 27, 2008 12:12 PM

Quote:
Did you have Sandro's Cloak on you by any chance?


No, I didn't have that. And, truely as Elvin said, the Wraith was not actually "blinded" but just lost the retaliation after the Pristine's attack.  
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Lexxan
Lexxan


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Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
posted August 27, 2008 12:17 PM

Well, oddly enough Blindness isn't a mind spell. With Sandro's Cloak you can cast Frenzy/Puppet Master on Undead, but oddly enough, they're still immune to blind. (I noticed it when I practiced with Lethos in Duel mode; He could Puppet/Frenzy undead, but not Blind them.)
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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted August 27, 2008 12:48 PM

I can confirm that titans can be blinded, blind was a mind spell in H3 And if blinding strike counts as a potential no retaliation to undead why not? It's still better than what happens to the living ones.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Retired Hero
posted August 27, 2008 01:05 PM

If "torpor" isn't a mind effect, Idk what a mind effect is.

The name is kinda confusing >_>

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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted August 27, 2008 01:08 PM

Quote:
If "torpor" isn't a mind effect, Idk what a mind effect is.

The name is kinda confusing >_>

Confusion, frenzy, puppet.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Retired Hero
posted August 27, 2008 01:18 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 13:18, 27 Aug 2008.

You didn't understand me

I meant, what on earth TORPOR is if not a psychological effect..

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nosfe
nosfe


Adventuring Hero
posted August 27, 2008 01:28 PM

its a bottle of chloroform

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted August 27, 2008 01:33 PM

You think Nival thought things so deep..? LMAO
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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Famous Hero
Zen Mind
posted August 27, 2008 01:41 PM

Quote:
"Pristine Unicorn blinded Wraith!"

It happens the same to me, with griffins.
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Nebdar
Nebdar


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Supreme Hero
Generation N
posted August 27, 2008 04:13 PM

Pristine Unicorn is going wild. Now he can blind those that are immune to blindBUG No.1 Patch 3.1

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