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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Tribute to Strategists
Thread: Tribute to Strategists This thread is 20 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 · «PREV
gnollking
gnollking


Supreme Hero
posted February 01, 2023 06:17 AM

bloodsucker said:
Hi! Anyone has a suggestion on how to force a human player to take a certain NEUTRAL town before being able to continue throw another path?

Well, the most simple solution would be a quest guard that requires creatures that you can only buy from the town. Other solutions depending on how specific your map is up to this point:

- You could have summon boat available only in that town (until that point in the game), and need to cross water to continue.

- If you have no resources, the daily income from the town could be required to pass (even better if there's a resource silo that generates the resources for the quest guard).

- If there's a fight for the town and you know how much XP the player has at that point, the experience from the fight could be enough to push you to a specific level, so that can also be a quest guard.
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NimoStar
NimoStar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted February 01, 2023 03:39 PM

Lack of heroes 3 default scripting is sad, we don't have those problems in h4

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted February 01, 2023 07:35 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 03:22, 02 Feb 2023.

@gnollking Thanks, I already have towns of that kind but hidden water hex and Waterwalk spell are perfect.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted February 02, 2023 05:27 AM

NimoStar said:
Lack of heroes 3 default scripting is sad, we don't have those problems in h4



A reason why H4 is the world's greatest achievement. Like I first thought when I was 9 years old and played the game first.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted February 04, 2023 09:48 AM

How is decided which hero is shown as starting hero when a faction has more then one? I know it's not necessarily the most powerful but I don't guess what it is.
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted February 04, 2023 11:53 AM

bloodsucker said:
How is decided which hero is shown as starting hero when a faction has more then one? I know it's not necessarily the most powerful but I don't guess what it is.

The name, specialty and portrait for each of the starting heroes are actually stored in the binary map file, but sadly there's no way to modify them in the normal map editor. You would need to directly change the bytes. I found this out just recently, as I've been working on my own map editor, which can already handle many of these unusual requests.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted February 04, 2023 12:58 PM

Thx. So, neither the order they are placed on the map nor if they are in garrison or not affects that?
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gnollking
gnollking


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posted February 04, 2023 01:09 PM

bloodsucker said:
Thx. So, neither the order they are placed on the map nor if they are in garrison or not affects that?

I tried for a little while to change stuff like that but did not find a reliable way to affect it, no. It is very easy if you read the map file byte by byte and parse all the data though . You can make the starting heroes look like anything you want, doesn't even have to be heroes actually available in the map.

Btw, I don't think this is the right thread for this .
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AlexSpl
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posted February 04, 2023 02:27 PM

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So, neither the order they are placed on the map nor if they are in garrison or not affects that?

It appears they go in ascending order of their IDs.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted February 04, 2023 07:38 PM

gnollking said:
Btw, I don't think this is the right thread for this .
Sorry, I should probably ask on a new thread or something.
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