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wog_edn
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posted October 20, 2008 02:32 PM |
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How life can quickly change
Three weeks ago me and my parents had a major fight, and it ended with me being thrown out. To afford having a place to live I had to quit school and get a job, so any future "carrier" or something is pretty much ruined. That's kinda why I have been extremely inactive the last time too, been working really hard to get my life okay again.
A week ago I got an own apartment and a job, so things are going better.
Just wondering if anyone else also have had such radical changes in a short time-span? Like your whole life changes in a month...
Kinda just had to get it out, been tearing me down  so I thought why not here? Where people don't judge, they are nice, they have good advices, etc... ^^ So there I got that out, and ... well, hoping to be more active on here 
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JoonasTo
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posted October 20, 2008 06:23 PM |
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What can you have such a big fight about that they throw you out?
You started drinking? Drugs? Smoking?
Better question yet. What can be so important that you want to keep it up and get thrown out? A (boy)girlfriend? Pals?
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mvassilev
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posted October 20, 2008 06:43 PM |
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I don't know what your specific situation is like, but, in 99% of cases, dropping out of school is a very, very bad idea.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 20, 2008 06:45 PM |
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I agree with Mvass. You need to get back in as soon as you can.
As to life changing, it certainly is. Look at the world. It's changing faster than I imagined it could.
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JoonasTo
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posted October 20, 2008 06:46 PM |
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I agree with mvass, you really should try to get back to school. Take a evening/weekend job, maybe from a local supermarket or something, and a loan if you have to.
but shouldn't you get study subsidies in Norway? 
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wog_edn
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posted October 20, 2008 08:12 PM |
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Edited by wog_edn at 20:14, 20 Oct 2008.
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They think I am aggressive and stuff .. dunno why, since I've never hurt any of them or been taken by the police for anything.
Study subsidies is like 30% of what you need to pay for an apartment or something, and with the prices for things here you can't afford living alone unless you want debt you have to pay back your entire life or very rich helpful parents.
And I decided to give up school too, 'cause it's not the thing I like. I am not really good at anything inside it, or interested in any job it could lead to gonna join the army next year...
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mvassilev
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posted October 20, 2008 08:20 PM |
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They think you're aggressive... and then you got into a huge fight with them. Way to prove them wrong. 
I think that most people dislike school, but school leads to university, which is more relevant to one's interests, and is worth pursuing. Unless you plan to get your GED (Graduate-equivalent diploma), if they have such a thing in Norway, and then go to university after the army.
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Geny
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posted October 20, 2008 08:21 PM |
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NEWSFLASH: unless you want to be a mindless grunt who is going to degradate until all he can do is shout and do some push-ups, you need basic education to make a career in army as well.
Seriously, one way or another, if you want to get somewhere you'll need to finish school someday. Just take that into account when you're planning your life.
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posted October 20, 2008 08:23 PM |
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Hope everything works out for you edn...
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TheDeath
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posted October 20, 2008 08:26 PM |
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I think that most people dislike school, but school leads to university, which is more relevant to one's interests, and is worth pursuing.
Not always mvass... it alone doesn't mean much.
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posted October 20, 2008 08:43 PM |
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Edited by Totoro at 20:44, 20 Oct 2008.
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Not always mvass... it alone doesn't mean much.
Well there are other educational institutes than universities but if you don't get yourself a good education, no employer is going to hire you for anything above average job if you don't have any papers to show, unless you have very good relationships or happen to be stroke by extreme luck, but never ever count on that.
One advice: Never cut off school unless you have your monetary life secured for the rest of your life.
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posted October 20, 2008 08:44 PM |
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No, of course not always. But say you want to be a programmer. It's understandable for you to dislike school - what's the point of taking Biology or Literature if you're going to be a programmer if you don't like either of the two subjects, right? Many people feel that what they're learning at school is useless. And, in many cases, they're right. A welder doesn't need to know how Ernest Hemingway's style is distinguishable from William Faulkner's. An economist doesn't need to know about mosses' reproductive structures. And so on. But in further education, classes tend to become more relevant - the economist focuses on economics, the welder focuses on welding, etc.
And to a certain extent this is quite a reasonable complaint about education. But not always. Sometimes it may be useful to be educated about things that may be useless to your current job, because if it becomes impossible for you to continue working at your job (say, if it gets outsourced), your knowledge will make it easier for you to become educated in a different field and get a different job.
But this is getting slightly off-topic.
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posted October 20, 2008 08:46 PM |
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Sorry to hear that wog_edn
I hope it will turn out ok for you.
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posted October 20, 2008 08:54 PM |
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No, of course not always. But say you want to be a programmer. It's understandable for you to dislike school - what's the point of taking Biology or Literature if you're going to be a programmer if you don't like either of the two subjects, right? Many people feel that what they're learning at school is useless. And, in many cases, they're right. A welder doesn't need to know how Ernest Hemingway's style is distinguishable from William Faulkner's. An economist doesn't need to know about mosses' reproductive structures. And so on. But in further education, classes tend to become more relevant - the economist focuses on economics, the welder focuses on welding, etc.
And to a certain extent this is quite a reasonable complaint about education. But not always. Sometimes it may be useful to be educated about things that may be useless to your current job, because if it becomes impossible for you to continue working at your job (say, if it gets outsourced), your knowledge will make it easier for you to become educated in a different field and get a different job.
In majority of cases people don't, in the end, become what they originally intended to. Always have a back-up plan and the more you study "all the useless stuff" the more choices you will have.
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But this is getting slightly off-topic.
You know how often good conversations cease because someone blurts that this is off-topic.
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posted October 20, 2008 09:00 PM |
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Well there are other educational institutes than universities but if you don't get yourself a good education, no employer is going to hire you for anything above average job if you don't have any papers to show, unless you have very good relationships or happen to be stroke by extreme luck, but never ever count on that.
I think I read that they put more emphasis on experience (which is better) than some stupid papers these days, and it's still changing. Well I'm talking about IT stuff, so I may be biased for other jobs. Or you could open up your own business company
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And to a certain extent this is quite a reasonable complaint about education. But not always. Sometimes it may be useful to be educated about things that may be useless to your current job, because if it becomes impossible for you to continue working at your job (say, if it gets outsourced), your knowledge will make it easier for you to become educated in a different field and get a different job.
That's not what I meant. I meant that these days it's kinda easy to just learn it yourself if you truly want to (talking about math & programming here). A good "student" is one that is not always one step behind the teacher, but above in certain areas (depending on teacher, in school I had a very very poor programming teacher for example).
I am interested in many things, but that doesn't mean I can't learn them myself. Most school books suck, but thankfully it's easier with the internet. Or if you know a very knowledgable person (one of my friends knew a very knowledgeable person that didn't even go to college, and surpassed even those above-average students).
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posted October 20, 2008 09:01 PM |
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My life changed fast a lot of times.
Maybe I will think of a good one and post it. A doctor lied once and said I saw horns on my friends and labeled me suicidal because I was a jerk to him, that took me away from my place of living and I lost all of my valuables because of that noob hole. He lied!!
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Totoro
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posted October 20, 2008 09:28 PM |
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I think I read that they put more emphasis on experience (which is better) than some stupid papers these days, and it's still changing. Well I'm talking about IT stuff, so I may be biased for other jobs. Or you could open up your own business company
Experience is always plus but they won't take you unless you have papers to show, was it school grades or a reference from a powerful person, you will need something. Besides how are you going to get any working experience if you cannot even get a job. Think it realistically: Who would actually hire just any random dude for a high position with high salary, without any guarantee for him being proficient. No one. If you wanna become a programmer without any "official" education which you can see in a paper, you might with luck get hired to some desperate small company that manufactures talking bears for kids. You would spent let's say five years there programming those bears. Then you would have some experience and you could possibly get a better job but not much.
Believe me. In the end, it's alot easier if you just patiently finish your school.
Opening your own business is the most risky choice; At first, you would have to take a big loan and if everything doesn't go as planned, you will have nothing but a loan to pay back in the end. And the rest of your life is screwed.
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wog_edn
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posted October 20, 2008 09:34 PM |
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What if I tell you that my biggest interests is pyrotechnics and martial arts? Anything inside schools here is useless for anything of those two things, which I can use in the army. I've considered it before, but thought I should finish school first.
Education is essential if you are interested in getting a good job without any kind of risks ... but I enjoy risk, all my hobbies have had some kind of it, so I would like a job with it too.
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TheDeath
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posted October 20, 2008 09:37 PM |
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Besides how are you going to get any working experience if you cannot even get a job.
Get experience yourself. I know it might not work in all areas, but since you gave example with programming, and I know about it, let's just say: if you are "known" or you can show what projects you have done, that is considered "experience". Say I am John Carmack and I make some kind of very simple 3D engine. That can be considered experience. If I am not mistaken, the whole ID software company didn't rely much (especially in early days) on "papers", they were thinking out of the box.
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wog_edn
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posted October 20, 2008 09:39 PM |
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They think you're aggressive... and then you got into a huge fight with them. Way to prove them wrong.
They were mostly shouting and stuff, I were just very cold and ... picked my words well ^^ I think
And it's possible to get thought in a job while working there, just you earn very little in the beginning. I earn about 40$ each hour at the moment with no education at all.
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