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Asheera
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posted December 02, 2008 10:34 PM |
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For the Ignite thing, if I remember correctly someone even said that he experienced Magnetic Golems being damaged by Ignite. So I think it's definitely a bug.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 02, 2008 10:45 PM |
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I think that only happens when against warlocks. First time I hear about rune of dragonform though.
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infinitus
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posted December 02, 2008 10:53 PM |
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Thanks Fiur, yes nice replay, but i made many mistakes  First of all was very late time then we play final battle. Also we get disconnect in final battle, before dc i cast puppet on centaur and first move centaur kill balista, after dc i was shocked then i see balista is blocked, centaur can't reach balista ... Opponent was unknown hero from UBI server 
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted December 02, 2008 11:03 PM |
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Ignite i think is clear.The emerald dragons was ignite before he cast magical immunitie.And ignite isnt a spell or magic is just a perk who inflicts 100% of spell damage to target for next 3 rounds.If you right click on the dragons you will see : "magic immunitie - permanent" and "ignite - permanent".
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 02, 2008 11:45 PM |
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Ignite is only for 3 rounds.. not permanant.... and it refreshed the ignite each time. Even after I was immune to the spell.. And it says that ingnite does 100% of the spell damage... that is same as a spell. Has to be a bug.
Besides this.. the most important is the Rune of DragonForm... in abattle that is desided litterilly by 1 hit point.. Dragonform gave the extra damage. Changed the course of the entire battle.
Anyways... still wanting to hear more feedback.. so far couple posters suggest the ingnite thing is a bug.... what about Dragonform? Clearly says cannot work on Dragons.. yet it did..
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 02, 2008 11:51 PM |
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Jinxer post replay on forum, it's easier to see what happen and find explanation ... It's like ask why my comp is not working vs telephone, response is - i not telepath
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 12:39 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 00:49, 03 Dec 2008.
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Here is the Bugged replay....
http://www.toheroes.com/Bugged-Nerevar.sav
My plan was at the end cast Magic immunity on Drags and run them around map away from Lava Dragons.. and then kill the lavas with hero... and after he was outta mana.. just start rezing rest of my men... but this stupid Ignite bug screwed it up.. and without Dragon form bug... all my dragons dont die that 1 hit.
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Destro23
Promising
Famous Hero
Keeper of GrongGrong
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posted December 03, 2008 01:44 AM |
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Lava Dragons are classified as elementals not dragons?
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted December 03, 2008 02:13 AM |
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Dragonform.... I bet Lord Nerevar used the Staff of Sar-Issus..
(Negates enemy magic resistance. Magic protection and immunities, if any, are not affected and still remain.)
it would'nt shock me if you are able to use dragonform on Lava with that staff in your hand... just lol.....
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Jinxer
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posted December 03, 2008 03:16 AM |
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Quote:
Lava Dragons are classified as elementals not dragons?
lol.. good try Destro.. but you said it your self. Lave DRAGONS are dragons lol.. weather they are elemental dragons or kethup dragons or imaginary dragons.. they are still DRAGONS! 
And Fiur... description didnt say the dragons were immune to dragon form... it said it plain isnt allowed to work on them. Its like a law or a commandment.. Kinda like Black Dragons are not allowed to have magic cast on them even if your wearing sandros cloaK
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 07:20 AM |
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OMG, nice replay, so hot Still it's pain for me to see Sylvan dying Thanks for replay Jinxer. This is the beauty of this game - nothing's impossible
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 03, 2008 07:32 AM |
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Quote:
Still it's pain for me to see Sylvan dying
You really care about those naturist sylvan bastards, huh?! 
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 09:11 AM |
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Of cos i care, in real life pot flowers are my business
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Towerlord
Promising
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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 03, 2008 10:22 AM |
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The first one, rune of dragonform on dragons, seems to be a bug ... or maybe Fiur's explanation.
The Ignite, on the other hand, is a normal thing... It's like casting, Banshee Howl on blacks... it's ability not spell.
And the fact that it seemed to last longer than 3 turns, is actually because of the high initiative of Dragons( at least 14 init * 3 turns = 4.2 turns, not to mention haste or init arties) and maybe some wait / morale for the dragons in that period, prolonging their ignition over 5 "turns" .
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 10:34 AM |
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"100% of the spell damage" isnt same as a spell - is simply damage equal with spell damage.
Im glad because with this game (first time I played dwarfs) I learned a lot (we learned a lot)and this demonstrate that none can know everything in this game.
Anyway this was the most beautiful game I ever had in toh.Thanks Jinxer for the game.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 03, 2008 10:55 AM |
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I can confirm that ignite works much like regeneration, the three turns are three 10 initiative turns while it triggers each time the unit acts. About rune of dragonform I'm pretty sure it doesn't work on magmas but haven't tried with lava to see if they are bugged or if there is another force at work.
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 10:58 AM |
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Was fire-dragons , not magma ,not lava.
My opinion is that ignite decided this battle for sure ,not the dragonform wich I casted once.
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diegis
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 03, 2008 11:22 AM |
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Edited by diegis at 11:27, 03 Dec 2008.
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I've just seen the replay again, and congrats both players Jinxer and Lord Nerevar, for keeping the reply and for very interesting game.
I also noticed that in the final battle Dragon-form wasnt important at all, BECAUSE, if Lord would've been used Rune of Berserking, the damage would've been much more, killing 7 dragons, not just 2. Also replaying the battle, you will probably see the importance of Ignite and not the dragon form (used just once) and I think was a wrong choice from Lord Nerevar - should've been Rune of Berserking!
So Ignite did the trick!
But the game was great, and tells me that this homm5 (tote) still surprise us all.
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lord_nerevar
Hired Hero
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posted December 03, 2008 11:29 AM |
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Good point Diegis
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 03, 2008 11:37 AM |
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I tested it and only the basic dragons get rune of dragonform. Firedragons are cheaters
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