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TheDeath
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posted January 01, 2009 09:28 PM |
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Also The_Death you said in the microsoft thread that Blizzard started monthly fees. That is not true.
Everquest was one of the first MMORPGS which WoW "stole" many features too. EverQuest had an monthly fee and was released in 1999.
No but Blizzard made a lot more $$$$ and proved it's successful business-wise 
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Oscarius
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posted January 01, 2009 09:31 PM |
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Edited by Oscarius at 21:32, 01 Jan 2009.
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And people that say you must mash buttons are wrong, in some cases atleast.
Here you go again I wasn't right, however there's some cases were this doesn't apply nor partly right, I was WRONG, in some cases atleast....
This kind of attitude is the kind that just annoy me.....
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xerox
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posted January 01, 2009 09:56 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 21:56, 01 Jan 2009.
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I corrected you and you admited you were wrong. Big deal? I dont understand.
Also I wouldnt care what spec our Lock was
Because we dont invite low dps Warlocks to our raids!!111 mvhahahahahahaha
You know why Blizzard does this monthly pay etc?
Because they are making a next-gen MMO which likely is Universe of Starcraft or less likely Realm of Sanctuary.
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Oscarius
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posted January 01, 2009 10:18 PM |
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What you don't seem to understand is that one thing can be said in different ways.....
Conceding half your point will be half the victory for both parties, however some just seem to think they are the one that is right all the time...........
Sigh, I don't even understand why I'm continuing this...
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DagothGares
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posted January 01, 2009 10:46 PM |
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Because we dont invite low dps Warlocks to our raids!!111 mvhahahahahahaha
mein point...
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Cepheus
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posted January 01, 2009 10:55 PM |
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But still is that really the biggest problem you have with WoW? That's why you wouldn't play it? Or because of the monthly fee, or something else?
Well, yep, it's the main reason I don't want to support it. I'd rather have no story at all than a story which butchers major parts of the lore and universe. As someone once said "If you can think of a way to tell the story better, it loses half of its fun."
That's why I wouldn't play it if I could. But I'm not a wealthy person, I can't afford the monthly fee, and the gameplay certainly doesn't interest me that much either. Still that's neither here nor there
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You havent said anything bad about the Warcraft lore except it is stupid that Illidan etc are wasted to die.
I don't see a lot of sense in Akama's betrayal. And Kael's betrayal was just a little far-fetched given his personality in WC3. I don't see why you'd want to bring Maiev back after her apparent death in W3 (confirmed in books too I believe), at least not in this capacity. I don't understand how Balnazzar returned and believe that it was a crude mistake on the writers' part. And it's odd that the tangent storyline in the manga series was concluded in the MMORPG...
I don't get how there are suddenly so many humans in Lordaeron to resist the Forsaken when W3 established the idea of a small resistance force of humans, blood elves and dwarves, especially since the Scourge already drove most of the populace to flee the continent and fight demons. I disagree with trying to bundle both races into Alliance and Horde, it compromises the alignment ambiguity WC3 established.
However, I did like the return of the WCII main heroes, and the Caverns of Time weren't bad. Then again that's simply my opinion.
But thanks for telling me I'm your second favourite poster. I thought we had something against one another 
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xerox
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posted January 01, 2009 11:27 PM |
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Yes, they changed Kael'thas personality a lot and I liked him more in Wc3 but to me its acceptable as the Sunwell story and the Blood Elves redemption (which also meant that they started having faith in the Light - instead of stealing its energies)
Blizzard themself said that they regret rushing to release the Black Temple. Sunwell Plateu was not supposed to be in BC from the begining, it was supposed to be a WotLK intro raid.
But then there was a huge cap of content between BC and WotLK and players protested, so they released the Sunwell.
However I dont agree with the Akama story. It is well made and makes sense. Akama soon understood that the Black Temple had only got a new dark master. Illidan even took a part of Akamas soul and bound it to the Temple.
Akama saw that Illidan enslaved the Broken, using them to dig up powerful Ata'mal crystals and other artifacts etc.
( however actualy, the Broken leaders sold their tribes to Illidan for their own freedom)
I think Akama to understood that Illidan had no chance to survive in Outland. For some reason, the Illidari attacked Shattrath City causing the conflict in Outland.
The Horde and Alliance outnumbered the Illidari - and the Legion still doesnt like Illidan.
Akama had little choice if he were to survive.
If there is a WoW 2 or Wc4, then I hope to see Akama uniting the freed Broken tribes in Outland, fightning the remenants of the Legion.
Akama was never a bad guy in my eyes.
Maiev doesnt die in Wc3, but you dont see her anymore after the cage mission. The RPG books stated that "Maiev died alone on the red sand, unmourned, unsung, with none to remember her fall, her soul empty of all but rage." which was kind of lame since she has much potential.
RPG books are not 100% canon and has lots of errors in it like Hakkar beign an old god, Stormwind having 200,000 dwarves (more then their capital of Ironforge) 20,000 humans etc
Simply, you cannot trust the RPG books.
The Dreadlords are lame. Balnazzars death is explainable, as its forbidden for one nathrezim to kill another of their kind.
Mal'ganis survival is weird though, especally since he was striked down by Frostmourne itself.
But have you seen the Dreadlords death animation? Both in WC and WoW, they just disappear in shadows or batlike creatures.
And what do you mean with Lordaeron???
There is two major human villages there, and its Southshore and Hillsbrad. There is also Amber Mill but its Dalaran territory.
The humans in WoW are not Lordaeron humans - you play as a Stormwind human. If you meant the Argent Dawn and Scarlet Crusade etc... they are former Knights of the Silver Hand and most of the Lordaeron survivors joined those groups (there wasnt much other choices, as their was few ships to the region of Azeroth etc).
The rest fled with Jaina Proudmoore.
I dont understand what you meant there.
As for Night Elves beign in the Alliance etc, its understandable.
They are at war with the Horde and they are few after the Third War. They literally lost their homelands and the only ones to ally with was the Alliance.
The Forsaken are similar. But Thrall wanted a foothold in the Eastern Kingdoms plus Thrall is Thrall, he is a good guy willing to invite almost any race into the Horde.
Although some of the Forsaken eventully betrayed him, killing a large part of the Horde Offensive in Northrend.
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posted January 01, 2009 11:33 PM |
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I really miss the classic WoW. It was the best IMO. I really enjoyed it. There were no retarded brats who would spoil your guild's reputation, no major chars died stupidly( Kel'Thuzad's ressurection was perfectly explained), BG's rocked back then, no sucky arenas, great community, everything was balanced, and no one relied on their gear. You could pwn a noob with a T3 set using BRD,BRS,Scholo,Strat items.(Barman shanker rules) as i watch the new PvP videos i want to cry. They suck(except for Pat's 3rd video). Some retarded idiots just showoff their gear. Remember Meandro and his "Bring the Shadow" series? The whole series rocked. Why to gather mats to make... e.g. Arcanite Reaper, when you'll get a green item in Outland or Northrend and it's dps and stats will be like classic WoW epic. The game lost its charm. Like all its became a grindfest
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posted January 02, 2009 10:13 AM |
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You constant avoiding to answer my questions is pretty much a big fat confession in itself. But just for the sake of it I thought I might try to reach you again (it's not like you haven't read this you just know you'll fail with your answer ). Or won't you?
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I don't like to repeat myself but in Xerox case I feel it is necessary.
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...That doesn't change the fact that you are a freakin slave to that game. In this entire thread you haven't said "Ah yes ok that is bad about WoW" you didn't even say something like "Aha... I see your point but I still think" you always say "NO IT'S NOT!!" (biggest achievement was you saying it's 50% true lol).
Have you in this entire thread admited that somebody has a point? I don't think you did. Are you telling me everybody who raised a point here was wrong (you actually did but I want to hear you say it)?
Don't tell me you are able of discussion when the subject is WoW. You are brainwashed. Or just naive. Or maybe just ignorant. But definetly one of the 3.
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kipshasz
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posted January 02, 2009 11:06 AM |
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Yeah, Xerox you are BRAINWASHED. I really don't want to say this but someone has to do it. You're a lousy nolifer. Take off your pink glasses and get a life! WoW isn't that great. The expansions ruined it. Completely.
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posted January 02, 2009 11:37 AM |
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Yeah, Xerox you are BRAINWASHED. I really don't want to say this but someone has to do it. You're a lousy nolifer. Take off your pink glasses and get a life! WoW isn't that great. The expansions ruined it. Completely.
Once you go into lands of WoW, returning will be hard
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kipshasz
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posted January 02, 2009 04:33 PM |
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Not that hard when you have a girlfriend.
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Darkshadow
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posted January 02, 2009 06:21 PM |
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Yes, but what makes you think Xerox has one?
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doomnezeu
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posted January 02, 2009 09:04 PM |
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Not that hard when you have a girlfriend who does not play WoW also.
Fixed. You would be surprised about the amount of couples playing WoW together. I know at least 3 in my own guild.
"Honey, the baby needs a change of dippers!"
"Ah screw it, not now, I'm in a raid!"
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Oscarius
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posted January 02, 2009 09:07 PM |
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I'm just saying.....poor child. 
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Doomforge
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posted January 02, 2009 10:03 PM |
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Not that hard when you have a girlfriend.
he's 13 yo, ffs. Boys don't need girlfriends at that age.
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posted January 02, 2009 10:05 PM |
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WoW killed another thread.
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Adrius
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posted January 02, 2009 10:55 PM |
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I'm just saying.....poor child.
Don't say that... one of my greatest childhood experiences was playing Quake 2 with my dad
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DagothGares
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posted January 03, 2009 12:20 AM |
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Not that hard when you have a girlfriend.
he's 13 yo, ffs. Boys don't need girlfriends at that age.
Yeah! Girls do!
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posted January 03, 2009 05:50 AM |
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I don't really like MMOs, I've always preferred RTSs and TBSs.
My main issue is the monthly fee, which I disagree with. I'm paying enough for it already, thanks.
Plus, WoW seems to have butchered Warcraft lore, and Warhammer Online's "grand alliance" is kinda sketchy too.
Regardless of ingame graphics, Warhammer itself is far darker and gothic than Warcraft. It has overblown and borderline silly stuff in it, but even that is drawn/represented realistically, whereas in Warcraft drawings they still have that cartoony feel.
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