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MattII
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posted April 07, 2009 11:24 PM |
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Edited by MattII at 22:43, 08 Apr 2009.
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Now unless I have seen pictures that aren't representative, a Chakram is a metal ring that is sharpend all around. The original ones used by the Sikh people are are just that a ring and the Sikhs used them both for throwing and melee combat by holding them and slashing with them. Now I've even seen a picture of the one Xena is holding, on wikipedia, and that one has a handle in the middle for making it throw more easily and that same handle would also make more easy to slash with it.
They're limited as a melee weapon by the fact that they have a limited range (12 inches maybe), have no crossguard, and have a blade pressed against your hand (limiting the amount of force you can apply). Also, because they're held like they are, any strike against them is going to stress your wrist in palm/back direction, rather than the thumb/opposite direction a sword does, making you far more likely to pick up an injury.
The Yin-Yang Chakram appears exclusive to Xena, making me think that there are practical reasons that it wasn't adopted in reality, perhaps because it interfered with the normal method of 'throwing' them.
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While you are completly correct when talking about the crossbows use in the late Middle Ages, there are many more variations of crossbows. It is known that Crossbows were used in Asia from at least 500 BC and in Ancient Greece from at least 300. Most of these were used as hunting and anti-personel weapons and as such had broad heads.
I'm aware of that, but the middle-ages are 'when' HoMM is set, so the earlier uses can be ignored.
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I agree that crossbow bolts tend to be more thick and short, making it harder to break the shaft of the bolt. However, because the crossbow delivers more kinetic energy upon impact, this impact may well weaken the bolt itself and it will snap after reapeted use.
I'm doubtful of that, back in those days making bolts would have been a fair amount of work, so they'd do their best to make them survive as long as possible, so undoubtedly multiple uses could be got out of each bolt.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted April 08, 2009 03:45 PM |
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...your tutorial campaign seems to be very detailed  ... I vote for an option to manually turn off the tutorial hints for experienced players, or for an option like "show only changes to previous hero games" or so^^
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted April 10, 2009 11:06 AM |
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They're limited as a melee weapon by the fact that they have a limited range (12 inches maybe), have no crossguard, and have a blade pressed against your hand (limiting the amount of force you can apply). Also, because they're held like they are, any strike against them is going to stress your wrist in palm/back direction, rather than the thumb/opposite direction a sword does, making you far more likely to pick up an injury.
The Yin-Yang Chakram appears exclusive to Xena, making me think that there are practical reasons that it wasn't adopted in reality, perhaps because it interfered with the normal method of 'throwing' them.
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I'm doubtful of that, back in those days making bolts would have been a fair amount of work, so they'd do their best to make them survive as long as possible, so undoubtedly multiple uses could be got out of each bolt.
Making a crossbow bolt would require much less time than you might think. Given the fact that experienced woodworkers could make the 3 legs required for a milking stool in about 10 mins, I'd think that making 3 bolts would take roughly the same time. So it wouldn't take that long to get a whole lot of bolts.
I will agree that they would do their best to make the bolts last as long as possible, after repeated use the bolt either break or it will start to deviate, making it's trajectory croocked. Which is given the fact that the bolt was found after the battle.
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I'm aware of that, but the middle-ages are 'when' HoMM is set, so the earlier uses can be ignored.
I'm not going to deign this worth more reply that I'm giving it with this remark.
But enough of this, I'd like to hear about the improvements and progress I've made with my factions.
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted May 02, 2009 05:41 PM |
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OK first of all I would like to say thank you for:
War-overlord
for being the most active in this topic (although not really discuss the real topic) but your opinions also means a lot for me. Critics are always good.
MattII
For not even discuss the real topic but hey at least you help me bump this topic which is really unpopular in the community 
Cepheus
For the first one who said to like the idea and the only person who stick with real topic in this thread. Thank you, it means a lot for me
flackmandan
Same as Cepheus, the only person who really comment for the real topic.
Anyway my job seems to caught most of my time. But I promise you (even when you don't care  ) that I will continue, new ideas already on my mind, the only thing left is the right moment to write them down. No update for now. C U
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted June 04, 2009 02:59 PM |
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Edited by admira at 15:10, 04 Jun 2009.
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Wanderers and Slayers are the new Level 7 unit that I found difficult to explain their absence in the previous series so I just made up some story about how to explain their role in previous heroes V. It is difficult, really  and I know this is not a best seller book class but well as I always say hope you enjoy it. I put them on page 1 as part of the lore telling but you can also read them here.
[NVLKSTR] Story Telling (Origin, Reason, etc)
[WNDSLY1] Wanderers and Slayers: The Lost Chapter
King Roland approach Gallahan outside his camp. "Sir Gallahan" Roland greet his companion. Gallahan replied "Yes my Lord, is there anything I can help?" while bowing his head a bit. "I wonder, you always said that Wanderers and Slayers have been always loyal to the Royal Family especially the King. But there are some glitches on that. Especially when you see what happened to The last King Nicolai and his Queen Isabel. I mean, how can you let Markal enter the tomb, aren't you around when that happened?". Gallahan sit near the fire outside his tent and start to tell the lore.
It was a very gloom night, it feels like forever since we put the Silver Sword back to the hand of the first King's Statue King Ivan. When two figure come across the gate to the King's tomb. Soon we gathering and halt them. It was very surprising that one of the figure turn out to be the Queen himself. We of course soon pardon for our rudeness. Suddenly the Queen insist that he need to enter the tomb. We of course hesitated and told her that the place is a sacred place even for King's Family. But before we can finish the word, the Queen rushed in and we in a confusion draw our swords and try to prevent them from entering.
However, out of our prediction, the Queen companion turn out to be a very powerful necromancer and we face a formidable opponent. In no time, a horde of Skeletons, ghosts and Liches surround us and make an opening for both Queen and her companion which turn out to be the Dead Lord himself Markal enter the Grave. During the confusion I gather a group of my fellow Slayers and Wanderers to make a way to the tomb by slashing through countless Skeletons. We lost several men but finally I and several Slayers made it through the heart of the Tomb.
We hardly believed it but before our very eyes, the suppose to be dead King bowing to the Dead Lord as if Markal is his master. It took us no time to realize what had happened, we draw our swords charging to the Dead Lord only to find that our very King himself block the way. We stopped, everyone was looking at each other not sure what will our next move be. We pledged to protect our King live or dead, fighting him means to break our own oath. But without fighting him, we will never be able to reach Markal. During our pause, Nicolai suddenly charging my way. I blocked his first attack but it was barely a block his hit is very strong for a deceased body.
During my struggling and a hard time blocking his Majesty attack. I give command to my fellow Slayers to protect the Queen and bring her to somewhere safe. Suddenly I feel my body weaken... MARKAL! he attacked me with dark Magic, In the end I found myself facing a powerful King still with his outstanding sword skill even in his deceased body and one of the most powerful Necromancer. Even in this Grave situation, I struggled my way but my limit was reached, I was passed away unconscious, in a blink of my last consciousness I saw my fellow wanderers and slayers charged their way in but that was the last thing I remembered. I woke up and got updated the situation that occur.
The first thing I learned was that the group that fought the undead horde get aid from mysteriously aided by a horde of demon army. The group that carried the Queen escaped the cave but they become the sudden target of the demon army. The surviving warriors split themselves with one group come to aid me, while the other tried to repel the demon attacking the Queen's group. The second thing I learned, that the Queen's group left no survivor from their wounds I was pretty sure they are under heavy attack by the demon not undead, and to make it worse we lost our Queen. In my grief I recalled the rest of the army and split them into two, the first group is under my lead, we will pursue the King and bring him back to where he belong although we never really sure how would that happened. The second group will pursue the Demon to bring back our queen...
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bixie
Promising
Legendary Hero
my common sense is tingling!
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posted June 04, 2009 04:56 PM |
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all in all, a reasonably good attempt for a first try.
just 2 things
upgrade for apprentice= initate
holy knight could change to templar or crusader, just sounds better.
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 28, 2009 06:40 PM |
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New item, love to create lore lately. Hopes you like it. It will open more deep story, and maybe included as interesting implementation for in-game. As always, it is not at Tolkien Class of novel and it is difficult to create one, but hopes you all like it. You can find it on the 1st page but you can read them here.
[DMNARMR] Origin of the Demon Armors
My name is Aldebaran, Historian, Guru of the past wisdom. Today, I will tell you story today about Demonology. Demonology you say? Yes my child to learn the power of our enemy it is best to understand who they are.
In the early age of universe, Asha defeated Urgash with the help of her offspring and finally meet her final rest on the surface of the moon. Maybe you are wonder how come that even with the power of the elemental Dragons and Elder races, later human race that Urgash can still stood up in the struggle even almost defeat all of them?
The answer was hidden and said that only Dragon Knight and Sar Elam Disciples possessed the wisdom, however during my travel to the forbidden land and accidently ended up in the secret fotress of the Dragon Knight I had the obligation to learn a bit about them.
In the last parchment of the God War, It is said that Urgash is in the brink of defeat. In his final strugle, He create his first offsprings, yes, the equal power to the elemental Dragons in term of their power. The name was said in demon language but in human tongue it is read: Azkael, Asgaroth, Baphomet, Belial, Belzebub, Abbadon and Sammael. Each with their own unique features and weapon, for example Sammael and his largely sword tooth or the towering Baphomet. In the end, the clash of the godly war lead the force of Asha a victory, but it was barely a victory. Urgash was imprisoned in the hellish dimension people know it as Sheogh. The key to release the Hellish power is sealed inside the death star by Asha with her final power left, sent it far away from Ashan. Only by the combination of Order and Chaos that The death Star can be summoned and the seal can be released or destroyed.
What about their offspring? All of them depended on the power of Urgash in order to maintain their life force. Due to the weakening Urgash and the drained power due to their struggle against the force of Asha, they almost met their final death.
The name Ahura was mentioned, the expert of weaponry and traitor of man, Urgash ordered his final will to imprisoned the soul of his offsprings in the artifact, sets of armor. Ahura worked 100 Years, giving partly imortality by Urgash, in Hellforge to fulfiled Urgash final wish, The armor mainly created using a crystalization of chaos flame, that requires years to forge, each of them was burning a bright pale red light, it was said that only by this medium Urgash can save his children from Final death. And thus, the ritual was made. The princes of demon find their final rest on the armor made by Ahura.
Each of this armor represent what they were. How they are look? It is dificult to even imagine it but all the armor has a glow of faint red and each has unique feature:
Sammael Armor: Thin, Mostly less feature than others. His signature weapon the dual fang was imbued in the form of dual blade that is burning. This represent Sammael as the youngest and the most agile of them with large fang as his main weapon.
Abbadon Armor: Larger with more "human" like armor. Abbadon is the only demon using Blade as his weapon, unlike others who had weapon as part of their body feature. His weapon of course the exact Blade he used in the war.
Belzebub Armor: Large armor with "wing-like" feature in the back. Its weapon is a large shield like gauntlet. This is Belzebub, the only Prince that command a winged batalion of Hell. But most of them are extinct, or at least that is what we believed. His signature shape was the large Wing he use as weapon.
Baphomet Armor: The largest of all Armor, some even will guess who is able to wear such armor. This armor is also the only armor with no "weapon" due to Baphomet towering feature when he was still a Devil Prince. His signature shape was the towering body, the largest and use pure brute strength to defeat his opponents.
Asgaroth Armor: Asgaroth Armor looks solid but it was said that it is the lightest of all. This armor weapon is a bow made of Asgaroth horn. Asgaroth's signature move was the ball of fire he launch, he was also recognized as Devil with the largest horn and occasionally use them as weapon in melee combat. Do you know horned demon? that is the only legacy of what is left of Asgaroth Hell Batalion.
Azkael Armor: The most powerful of them, Azkael armor said to shine the brightest. Its weapon is the crystalize of what Azkael use as Demon Prince. The 8 Chaos Orb. The Orbs was said to represent the darkest side of livings' heart. The Orb now is the main weapon of the armor set and it is orbiting the armor. During his fight as Demon Prince Azkael use this orbs to deliver massive damage to his enemies. When he was attacking, the orbs will shine brighter and brighter charging up their power, once charged, Azkael will release the orbs power in the form of a large blast that usually sweep everything on its path.
Where the armor now, you said? Some of our Heroes already saw two of them. Zehir, Godric, Findan and Realag saw Khal'beth. well he is wearing one of the armor. Which is the rumor said the reason he was entitled Sovereign . Which? He is wearing the Abbadon set and Raelag, well previously Agrael, he also wore one of them, Sammael armor it was. It is said that when Tieru released Agrael from the armor, it almost killed them both. When the ritual over, Tieru became very weak, it was said that this is the reason why Tieru, a Dragon Knight, the mightiest of his kin, killed easily by Biara. Yes, a very sad fact indeed.
How can I knew all these things? How I reached the secret fotress that even the Silver League Wizard failed to find? well my child that was another story for another time.
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