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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 01, 2008 08:24 AM |
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Edited by zazu1 at 20:50, 16 Jun 2008.
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My Heroes 6 Dream...
These are things I want to see:
1) Alcibiades' magic school design.
2) Commanders, like in WOG. Except you should have to buy them, you can only buy one per month and there is a separate spell book for commanders in the mage guild. One spell per level.
3) Similar racial abilities for each castle, like in heroes 5.
4)The Prison in H4, where if your hero was killed by another player's hero you could get him back by taking over the nearest town of that player.
5) And my Own, completely new! Completely Original Idea!!! - There will be a second upgrade for each creature! However, they cannot be bought from a neither a castle nor a dwelling. Each creature stack gains XP, and when they hit a certain experience you can choose if you want them to upgrade!! These upgrades could be as good as the next level creature. The stack's xp is the average xp of each individual creature in the stack, so if you add a new stack of new units the xp of the stack will go down depending on how many you add. I'm not sure if I want to allow creatures to have their first upgrade be from xp. Anyway that is my amazing idea. I will add the names of the super upgrades once I have time.
Line-up:
Haven: Good, Light, Medieval, Humans
1) Peasant - Conscript -> Brute Ground/taxpayer
2) Buffoon - Jester Ground - short range archer
3) Archer - Crossbowman -> Marksman Archer
4) Footman - Squire - > Crusader Ground
5) Griffen - Imperial Griffen -> Aviak Flyer/swoop attack
6) Priest - Cleric -> Inquisitor Caster/Archer
7) Cavelier - Paladin -> Champion Ground/Mounted/heal cast
8) Angel - Arch Angel -> Seraphim Flyer/Ressurect cast
Tower: Good, Wizardy, Mechanical
1) Gremlin - Master Gremlin -> Gremlin Saboteur Ground - Archer
2) Gargoyle - Obsidian Gargoyle -> Marble Gargoyle Flyer
3) Stone golem - Iron Golem -> Diamond Golem Ground
4) Mage - Battle Mage -> Arch Mage caster/archer
5) Dijinn - Dijinn Sultan -> Djinn Vizier caster
6) Rakshasa Rani - Rakshasa Raja -> Rakshasa Kshatra ground
7) Golem Lizard -Dragon Golem -> ? Ground
8) Giant - Titan -> Colossus Ground - Archer
Inferno: Evil, Demons
1) Imp - Vermin -> Familiar Ground/steal mana
2) Demon - Horned Demon -> Horned Overseer ground
3) Hell hound - Cerberus -> ? ground - three head attak
4) Succubus - Succubus Seducer -> Succubus Mistress archer
5) Nightmare - Hell Charger -> Hell stallion ground
6) Pit spawn - Pit Fiend -> Pit Lord ground - ground -> summon ice demon
7) Efreet - Efreet Sultan -> Efreet Master caster
8) Devil - Pit Devil -> Arch Devil teleport
Necropolis: Evil, Undead
1) Skeleton - Skeleton archer -> Skelaton Crusader ground - archer
2) Zombie - Ghoul -> Phantom ground
3) Wight - Wraith -> Bansee flyer
4) Vampire - Vampire Lord -> Vampire Prince flyer
5) Lich - DemiLich -> Lampade archer - caster/archer
6) Black Knight - Dread Knight -> Dark Champion ground mounted
7) Black Rider - Nazgūl -> ? flyer
8) Reaper - Doom Reaper -> Grim Reaper ground
Dungeon: Evil, chaotic monsters, dark elves
1) Dark Elf - Stalker -> Assassin ground - Stealth -> archer
2) Trogolyte - Infernal Trogolyte -> ? ground
3) Harpy - Harpy Hag -> ? ground/annoying harpy attack
4) Evil Eye - Beholder -> Argus ground
5) Witch - Shadow Witch -> Shadow Matriarch caster/archer
6) Minotaur - Minotaur Gaurd ->Minotaur King ground
7) Manticore - Scorpicore -> ? flyer
8) Red Dragon - Black Dragon -> Chaos Dragon flyer
Sylvan: Good, Woods, High elves
1) Pixie - Sprite -> Dryad ground - caster
2) Half-ling - Hobbit -> ? ground
3) Wolf - Warg -> Fenris Wolf ground
4) Wood Elf - Hunter -> Master Hunter archer
5) Druid - High Druid -> Druid Elder caster
6) Hippogryph - ? -> ? flyer
7) Treant - Savage Treant -> Ancient Treant ground
8) Green Dragon - Fairy Dragon -> Mystic Dragon flyer - flyer/caster
Stronghold: Neutral, Barbarians
1) Goblin - Goblin Witchdoctor -> Hobgoblin ground - caster
2) Wolf Rider - Wolf Raider -> ? ground
3) Centaur - Centaur Marauder - Captain Centaur Archer
4) Orc - Orc Warrior -> Orc Chieftain ground
5) Troll Shaman - High Shaman -> Voodoo Master caster
6) Roc - Thunderbird -> Storm Bird flyer
7) Cyclops - Untamed Cyclops -> Cyclops King Archer
8) Behemoth - Ancient Behemoth -> Gargantuan ground
Fortress: Neutral, Swampland Creatures
1) Gnoll - Gnoll Marauder -> ? ground
2) Lizardman - Lizardman Warrior -> ? range
3) Serpent fly - Dragon fly -> ? ground - range
4) Basilisk - Greater Basilisk -> ? ground
5) Gorgon - Mighty Gorgon -> ? ground
6) Medusa - Medusa Queen -> ? ground/cast turn to stone
7) Wyvern - Wyvern Monarch -> ? flyer
8) Hyrda - Chaos Hydra -> ? ground/three headed attack - ground/six headed attack
Bastion: Neutral, Creatures of the frozen tundra and Mountains, Dwarves
1) Dwarf - Battle Dwarf -> Dwarven Defender ground
2) Dķsir - Fylgja -> ? caster
3) Black Bear - White Bear -> ? ground
4) Snow Monster - Yeti -> Frozen Yeti ground
5) Battle Maiden - Valkyrie -> Valkyrie Priestess flyer - flyer -> flyer/caster
6) Rune Priest - Rune Keeper -> Rune Patriarch caster/archer
7) Wurm - Lindworm -> Frost Worm ground/underground attack
8) Nemean Lion - Chimera -> Monstrous Chimera ground - flyer/three headed attack
Temple: Neutral, Creatures of the Desert
1) Beetle - Scarab -> Sacred Scarab ground
2) Anubite - Anubite Warrior ground/leaping attack
3) Mummy - Royal Mummy -> ? ground
4) Chariot - Chariot Archer -> ? ground - archer
5) Sphinx - Hieracosphinx -> Criosphinx ground - flyer
6) Scorpion - Scorpion Man -> Scorpion King ground
7) Pharaoh - Ancient Pharaoh -> Legendary Pharoh Caster
8) Stymphalian Bird - Fire Bird -> Phoenix flyer
Oasis: Good, Creatures of the springs
1) Nymph - Pegaeae -> ? caster
2) Faun - Satyr -> ? ground
3) Hippocampus - Kelpie -> ? ground
4) Monk - Zealot -> ? archer/caster
5) Unicorn - Pristine Unicorn -> ? ground
6) Genie - Master Genie -> ? caster
7) Pegasus - Silver Pegasus -> Golden Pegasus flyer
8) Naga - Naga Queen -> ? ground
Grove: Evil, Creatures of Night, Woods
1) Night Hunter - Moon Slayer -> ? archer
2) Chupacabra - Cockatrice -> Frenzied Cockatrice ground
3) Aswang - Manananggal -> ? flyer
4) Grove Gaurd - Grove Keeper -> ? caster
5) Werewolf - Wendigo -> ? ground
6) Agta - Kapre -> ? ground
7) Spider Princess - Spider Queen -> ? ground - caster
8) Zilant - Gorynych -> ? flyer - flyer/three headed attack
Neutral/Alternate creatures/other:
Gnomes
NUCKELAVEE - Dungeon
Petsuchos - Temple
Wadjet - Temple
Nereid - Water
Scylla - Water
Leviathan - Water
Kraken - Water
Edit: I added the Oasis castle. Tell me what you think!!
Edit: I made changes to Oasis and Sylvan. I liked my demi-god idea but it would be silly to name a creature a divine here when heroes are what control these creatures. Also I couldn't think of how a Hippocampus would look or move with the top half horse and bottom fish. I have added the what I would change bolded. Since I havnt received feedback from my original idea I will keep it up until I see what people think.
Edit: I got rid of trebuche cus with balistas as seige weapons it rly didnt make sense. Although comical and think jester is a nice addition. I also think they shuld throw bombs as a short range attack. but only as a short range. they cant throw long range with less damage like archers.
Edit: I added my Grove Castle. This is another castle that I am very skeptical about. I kinda took the grove idea from the heroes 3.5 forums and made it my own. It's a bit more evil since it's kinda like the evil sylvan. It's a mix between night elvish creatures with Philippine mythology I think which are creatures that live in woods that are evil and eat babies and stuff. Any tell me what you think. There might be a better name than grove for it too since I made it pretty evil
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted June 01, 2008 06:27 PM |
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Temple:
1) Beetle - Scarab
2) Anubite - Anubite Warrior
3) Mummy - Ancient Mummy? Royal mummiy sounds tons better
4) Chariot - Chariot Archer
5) Sphinx - ? Hieracriosphinx, Criosphinx, Nemesis or Lamassu
6) Scorpion - Scorpion King
7) Pharaoh - Ancient Pharaoh
8) Fire Bird - Phoenix
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted June 01, 2008 07:02 PM |
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Yeah royal mummy sounds better, you should also make scorpicore instead of scorpion king.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted June 01, 2008 07:12 PM |
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Very nice "Temple" concept.
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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 01, 2008 07:40 PM |
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Lexxan: Thanks alot for your ideas. Royal Mummy definitely sounds alot better and your options for the upgraded Sphinx are all really nice I just have to pick one now.
DarkShadow: My only problem with that is that I already used scorpicores in the Dungeon castle and I was kinda visioning the scorpion kings looking like a man with a scorpion body like this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/2541433405_d19e4bcd7f_o.jpg
Daystar: Thanks!! 
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted June 01, 2008 07:53 PM |
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Maybe replace them with Chimaera?And then add scorpicore.
Quote:
Necropolis:
1) Skeleton - Skeleton archer
2) Zombie - Plague Zombie
3) Wight - Wrath
4) Vampire - Vampire Lord
5) Lich - ArchLich
6) Black Knight - Dread Knight
7) Black Rider - Nazgūl
8) Reaper - Grim Reaper
1)sounds good, necropolis ranged power returns
2)Maybe rot zombies or ghouls?
3)Incorporeality, right?That has become almost a trademark to necropolis, also are you going to call upg to "wrath"?Or did you mean wraith?
4)Nothing wrong here, unless they turn to H4 vampires 
5)I don't know about using that archlich for more, maybe the demilich?
6)Dread knight sounds ok, not good or bad, blood knight would sound a bit better (I assume Death knight is going to be a hero class)
7)Sorry, but this one isn't on the fav list (mainly cause the refference to middle earth, , maybe the old bone and ghost dragons?
8)I think there can only be one Grim reaper, maybe Doom Reaper?
Just a suggestions.
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MattII 
Legendary Hero
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posted June 02, 2008 04:51 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 05:00, 02 Jun 2008.
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Haven:
1) Peasant - Militiaman
3) Man-at-arms - Knight
5) Onager - Trebuchet
Tower:
3) Golem - Stone Golem
7) Dragon Golem - Stone Dragon
Necropolis:
3) Ghost - Shade
4) Vampire - Revenant
6) Dark Knight - Dread Knight
7) Wight - Wraith
8) Bone Dragon - Ghost Dragon
Dungeon:
1) Trogolyte - Infernal Trogolyte
2) Fire Lizard - Salamander
3) Evil Eye - Beholder
4) Gorgon - Medusa
5) Minotaur - Quinotaur
6) Catoblepas - Ophiotaurus
7) Nue - Manticore
Sylvan:
2) Staff Dancer - Blade Dancer
4) Pegasus - Hippogriff
6) Unicorn - Qilin
Stronghold:
1) Goblin - Wolf Rider
2) Gnoll - Crocotta
5) Troll - Ogre
Fortress:
1) Will-o'-Wisp - Swamp Spirit
4) Cockatrice - Basilisk
5) Crocodile - Cipactli
6) Chimera - Montrous Chimera
Bastion:
3) Guardian - Huskarl
4) Battleboar - Golden Boar
5) Bear - Bear Rider
7) Battlemaiden - Valkyrie
8) Wurm - Lindwurm
Oasis:
4) Soul Eater - Ammut
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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 02, 2008 05:47 AM |
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Edited by zazu1 at 05:48, 02 Jun 2008.
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Dark Shadow: Thanks for feedback on necropolis.
2) I agree I do like Ghouls better
3) lol yea i did mean to type wraith
4) NO, they are gonna be cool vampires!
5) I do like demilich better, since i think arch is used to much and like the sound of demilich
6) Thats a tough one, however i think dread sounds a bit better imo. very close tho, either one would do.
7) I know exactly what you mean. I've been searching for an alternative name to something similar to a Nazgul. I just thought that they would fit perfectly and the game doesn't need that many dragons where there doesnt need to be. I suppose if there aren't any other good alternatives the bone dragon and spectral/ghost dragons could return.
8) I was thinking the same thing, I like Doom reaper as an alternative, however in Inferno, there really is only supposed to be one one devil.
MattII: Im not sure why you posted that, but I like your idea of a castle named Oasis. Could be where the Nagas live along with amphibious creatures and maybe even aquatic ones. I suppose It might be like a fortress but on the good side. Kinda like inbetween fortress and tower. If I can think of creatures I might just add that on the my dream post.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted June 02, 2008 06:47 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 21:22, 02 Jun 2008.
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Darn, sorry, Oasis was actually meant to be a replacement for Temple (given it's egyptian styled, it seemed appropriate).
Gah, no, do away with the Oasis town (see above post) as soon as possible, it's even worse than the Conflux was in H3, it really doesn't fit.
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Triumph
Anti-race based town
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posted June 03, 2008 06:37 PM |
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oh yea.... AND
This looks really good, just keep in mind that this game was originally designed for hotseat play. The castles should not be designed for campaign relevence, but rather multiplayer balance. I've played this series since its inception and honestly, until you have played heroes hot-seat, you are missing out on this game. The internet play in the series has always been o.k., not great. The campaigns terrible. What has always stood out is the ability to play hotseat which makes the game so fun. The game is one of very few computer games that can be played with many on one computer.
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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 03, 2008 07:01 PM |
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Yeaa...... Uh wth happend to my thread!! Get this buffoon outta here!
sigh, well I don't care about who framed roger rabbit or ur other post... but u do make a good point i think everyone should read. The game's should not come from the storyline but instead from the creativity, strategy and balance. I don't even remember there even being a campaign to first one, but it was so long ago i don't remember nor care. I think thats its so sad that half of the hero's fans would rather play heroes 3, a game that came out almost 10 years ago, rather than the newest one. And I wont stand to c another heroes game fail to attract heroes 3 fans because the need to fit the story line restricts there to be any creativity. I think they just made a campaign for lovers of the game to play when their friends are away. I personally play heroes 5 because I believe that the gameplay and unique abilites just beats over heroes 3's castles and creatures.
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triumph
Anti-race based town
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posted June 03, 2008 07:01 PM |
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Murloc Lurker - Murloc Deviant
Snorlax - Greater Snorlax
Dwarven Sanitizer - Dwarven Cleanser
Bob Saget - Bill Moyers
Kowala - Enraged Kowala
snow - Lady of Lay
Gundle - Grundlox
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triumph
Anti-race based town
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posted June 03, 2008 07:07 PM |
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What I'd like to see in heroes six would be the introduction of weapons seen in possibly the 15th or 16th century. I'd like to see a cannon as a possible seige weapon. Not muskeets necessarily, but definately cannons. Now I know I will get flamed for this, but in most games, people love the ornate armor and heavy chain look. True to history, by the time such heavy armor that could stop arrows was perfected, cannons were being used, (i.e. Malta..etc). Anyway, I'm not saying turn marksmen into riflemen, but I think it would be cool if you could get a cannon.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted June 03, 2008 07:31 PM |
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Edited by WarLore at 19:34, 03 Jun 2008.
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Temple:
1) Beetle - Scarab
2) Anubite - Anubite Warrior
3) Mummy - Royal Mummy
4) Chariot - Chariot Archer
5) Sphinx - Hieracosphinx
6) Scorpion - Scorpion King
7) Pharaoh - Ancient Pharaoh
8) Fire Bird - Phoenix
i just love this town idea ubival should use your towns in heroes6
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triumph
Anti-race based town
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posted June 03, 2008 07:46 PM |
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Dungeon:
1) Dark Elf - Assassin
2) Trogolyte - Infernal Trogolyte
3) Skaven Deviant - Scaven Packmaster
4) Beholder - Evil Eye
5) Witch - Shadow Witch
6) Minotaur - Minotaur King
7) Manticore - Scorpicore
8) Red Dragon - Black Dragon
Oasis:
1) Kobold - Kobold Eldar
2) Faun - Satyr
3) Mermaid - Siren
4) Monk - Zealot
5) Sea-horse - Hippocampus
6) Genie - Master Genie
7) Naga - Naga Queen
8) Divine Hero - Demi-god
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted June 03, 2008 09:43 PM |
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Edited by WarLore at 15:33, 05 Jun 2008.
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Necropolis:
1) Skeleton - Skeleton archer
2) Zombie - Ghoul
3) Wight - Wraith
4) Vampire - Vampire Lord
5) Lich - DemiLich
6) Black Knight - NUCKELAVEE
7) Black Rider - Nazgūl
8) Reaper - Grim Reaper
does anybody here know legend of nuckelavee?
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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 03, 2008 11:07 PM |
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Triumph: Hmm ill admit Skavens are really cool, eh.... well I don't i guess i'll need more opinions about that. and kolbold, I know there cool too but I think the answer is no.
Warlore: Thanks for the support! . And i didn't know what a Nuckelavee was until I looked it up. It sounds like a really cool creature but I don't think that It fits in the Necropolis, but i think itll fit very well in dungeon. What I could do is put them instead of manticores and move manticores to temple instead of the scorpion king. I know this would make Darkshadow happy lol.
I would like some help in thinking about the hero names. I've seen that most ppl prefer the heroes 3 version of 2 different heroes per castle. I'd use the same names as for the castles that existed in heroes 3. Also I'm not what I'd like for them to look like. If the unicorn did go to oasis then I suppose they could ride them and I thought it would be cool for sylvan to be an elf on a white tiger. I need something for dungeon, since the hero in heroes 5 is riding something that belongs in fortress. The fortress hero could look like dungeons hero in 5 or maybe it could look like a Grim Raider. Options for oasis are unicorn, or giraffe,(lol), camel. Temple could be a camel, a nomad, a giant scarab or a chariot. Here are the names I have so far.
Might Magic
Bastion: Runic Guardian Rune Mage
Temple: Tomb Raider?(lol) Tomb lord
Oasis: ? ?
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted June 04, 2008 12:33 AM |
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I take it you didn't see my post then, I 'intended' to suggest that Oasis would be a good replacement for Temple, which is, to my mind, a bit generic. I also don't like the Oasis town in any case, it seems forced and wrong.
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zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted June 04, 2008 01:05 AM |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore ur post but i did read that you meant for oasis to me a replacement for temple. Im sorry u feel that way but i know exactly what you mean by oasis being forced. It could look that way but I like more castles (unless they consist of 6 dwarves and a fire lizard) and the way I would envision the castle I think it would fit well. Temple is a new idea that heroes never had but it's very hard to think of other castles since there is a limited pool of creatures u can choose from and a limited amount of themes. Think of it this way, if you had all the castles in a circle like this, if you put all the castles in a diagram where each castle was connected in someway. like they did in heroes 4 with life, order, nature, chaos ect. Well Fortress would be in between Sylvan and Dungeon, well Oasis would be in between Sylvan and tower. Temple would be a bit complicated, I would either put it in between Temple and Death, or it would be in the middle of the circle by itself like stronghold is. When it comes to good or bad, however I think Temple would be neutral, Oasis would be good. My Bastion Castle I would be neutral as well I suppose.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted June 04, 2008 08:28 AM |
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Inferno:
Might: Demon lord
Magic: Heretic
Necropolis:
Might:Death knight
Magic:Necrolord (Some variation, they have been always called necromancers)
Dungeon:
Might:Stalker
Magic:Faceless
There are some.
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