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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 12:17 AM |
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Private lessons? And you refused?
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Zenithale
Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
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posted May 21, 2009 01:15 AM |
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 01:21 AM |
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Towerlord isn't convinced so I guess we'll have to replay it anyway.
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 07:09 AM |
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Edited by Kispagat at 07:14, 21 May 2009.
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Quote: to Elvin: no point to replay orcs win there is no way to kill 28 Gorshak chieftains 68 warmongers 300 goblins and 5 cyclops. You can kill his remaining army with hero only and attack the leapers with creatures. Soon he will be dead. Moreover these units have lots of rage.
to Kispagat: when I wanted to give u private lessons, u talked about other things. See what happened now naughty boy
Fortunatelly I have vampirism, so there is a slight chance. I am only worried for chieftains, cuz they have lot of rage.. while goblins and cyclops have their lethal dance I might recover some army. Or not...
We can try to replay it, but if we have a dc I would rather give it up then to try to play it hours and hours.
Nat, I am sure there are some tricks you could teach me. I feel so unexperienced here. I think I will use this oppurtunity after the tournament. Should I visit Bulgaria to have proper conditions for training?
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 07:11 AM |
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[quoteIf I remember correctly I had a disconnection during my first game with Kispagat. We have just immediately reloaded the save and do exactly the same moves. I suggest you to do the same here.
Ye, but that dc was at the beginnning of the fight and you had better connection than Elvin has.
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 08:59 AM |
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Quote: Arcax(Sylvan-Talanar) massacrated by Zilo(Dungeon-Yrwanna)
Zilo(Stronghold-Telsek) demolished Arcax(Academy Jhora)
2-0 T_T
Not that bad, but the score is correct. I was pretty surprized about first one myself
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted May 21, 2009 09:26 AM |
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Quote: Valky kicked my butt in the first match, his Ylthin proved overpowering even though I had Helmar. Her unicorns although weakened by constant resurrections were impossible to kill and me not having cleansing to strip them from their numerous protections sealed my fate.
Not to sound like a loser but isn't it a bit ridiculous that the already few thanes can be favoured? It's not like sylvan is weak in the first place.
http://www.speedyshare.com/124758298.html
Hmmm... seems like you discovered that your imba hero, is not as imba as you thought , and now you are facing the imba of sylvan favoured. Hope someone volunteers to show you, it's actually balacing measure
And, about requesting judging in replays... I would like to ask you all to, try to replay at least once before doing that. Heroes game is very unpredictable, and unless the battle is at it's very final stages, a certain outcome cannot be established. For instance, in this one Cyclops will die quickly under motd and pit lords, and goblins would have the same fate under cyclops' frenzy and blade of slaughter. So the chieftains are gonna have to do their thing fast
On second thought, watching the stats of the two heroes(and the Gorshak element), tells me that the chieftains are gonna do their thing really fast, so if you both don't want to replay, I think we can rule this one in Elvin's favor.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 12:16 PM |
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Quote: Hmmm... seems like you discovered that your imba hero, is not as imba as you thought , and now you are facing the imba of sylvan favoured. Hope someone volunteers to show you, it's actually balacing measure
That's what I'd call two wrongs don't make one right. Helmar is definitely not ok nor is having every unit favoured - is it a coincidence that everyone is afraid of sylvan in arena? Since the map is all about control of circumstances it should be decreasing the chance for imbalance much like you don't allow lvl 5 dark to be purchased by dungeon rather than consider it cool when one imbalance meets the other because that is rare to begin with. Most of the time it's imbalanced hero vs nobody or regular.
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted May 21, 2009 01:06 PM |
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I am telling you, both you claims are wrong ...
Helmar is a very good hero, but I've seen him defeated many times, I recently managed to kill him with Alastor .
And everyone is afraid of Sylvan in arena due to memories of the past, but in the present this town is pretty balanced with the others. Zilo's Dungeon win over Sylvan is the best proof of that , not to mention Zenithale vs Kispagat game. I really don't feel the same confidence I used to have when I was playing Sylvan before. And dungeon can get level 5 dark , by trading resources at the market
This is truly the most balanced version of arena, I have played so far, there's no doubt improvements can be made, but limiting favoured enemies is not an option, especially vs. dwarves
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 22, 2009 12:06 PM |
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When i get my internet stability back we can play Towerlord. You orcs me all other, see the result and than we can talk about balance ok?
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 22, 2009 12:16 PM |
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My challenge is to play versus me.I am weaker than Tower . I am ready to prove orcs .
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 22, 2009 12:26 PM |
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Im weaker then both of you so i guess it should be fair fight
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Zenithale
Promising
Famous Hero
Zen Mind
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posted May 22, 2009 08:56 PM |
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Zenithale (Nur) losses Zilo (Vladimir)
Only good Dark spells for me and the mentor was not generous. I finaly gave up, even if I had again a forlorn hope to win.
I don't have this replay.
Zilo (Talanar) losses Zenithale (Garuna)
His destructive build was not enough to kill my orcs.
REPLAY HERE
Zilo 1 - 1 Zenithale
Thanks for the game .
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Zilo
Promising
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 22, 2009 10:27 PM |
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Quote: Zenithale (Nur) losses Zilo (Vladimir)
Zilo (Talanar) losses Zenithale (Garuna)
Zilo 1 - 1 Zenithale
Thanks for the game .
Yep. ToH arena version keeps surprising me - win with only summoning necro was a bit unexpected (imo, Zenith had some chances to win it even at the point when he gave up) as was loss with destructive sylvan (meteor+earth boots).
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted May 23, 2009 08:24 AM |
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I am a bit surprised by Summoning Necro victory also, and the second replay orcs vs sylvan should serve as a lesson for Felunio and other orc balancing squads
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 09:41 AM |
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It may proof something , it may not. Until someone beats the crap out of me by orcs im nonbeliever.
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted May 23, 2009 04:17 PM |
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Announcement
Since deadline is close, and they have played very few/no games, Zamfir and lucky_dwarf will have all their games forfeited and everybody will get full credit. Vokial_bg is another candidate for full forfeit... probably same measure will be applied to him, unless he does big ammounts of playing this weekend.
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 05:15 PM |
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Felunio (Necro) wins Elvin (Dwarf)
Felunio (Inferno) wins Elvin (Academy)
replays
After 1 million disconnects on both sides we finally get the result. Hurrey!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 23, 2009 05:25 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 17:27, 23 May 2009.
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Hey since when people confuse me with zilo? Well played, not much I could do in the first with those scary skelie warriors but the second could have gone better from me both in preparation and combat stage.
Kispagat gave me the victory of our first game and we resumed the second one, necro vs his academy. The moment I saw Zoltan in tavern I hired immediately but I didn't ask kisp how that affected his game I went for power of speed/endurance and summoning with crystal, barrier and arcane armor while he went destructive. While he had empathy his destructive dmg output wasn't as fast or powerful and I got more resisted spells than I expected while my crystal did high dmg slowly but steady. My dragon shield and haste turned my skelies to maniacs.
http://www.speedyshare.com/498351519.html
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Kispagat
Famous Hero
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posted May 23, 2009 10:17 PM |
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Ye, Elvin made a good job here. I felt so helpless about the matchup, I dont really know how to play arena with academy. My spells were bad, needed to buy tome of destruction, altough I decided to take might academy route with light, but skilling denied that.
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