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rychenroller
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posted January 08, 2002 12:14 AM |
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Sent at: January 08, 2002 (05:03 AM)
From: Wesley
Subject: Go on with me.. Wake the devil
Message: Good going syll! Your gone in 60 seconds.
this is an IM Wesley sent me... go on, wake the devil...what does that mean? please show me Wesley.
Oh and I have to authorize you for ICQ before u can get to me tosser.
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rychenroller
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posted January 08, 2002 12:22 AM |
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Sent at: January 08, 2002 (05:19 AM)
From: Wesley
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Message: Lol! Got ya! 
Got me what? are you having fun yet?
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DarkTitan
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posted January 08, 2002 01:08 AM |
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You know what would be really good?
If we had some kind of competition like Sumo Wrestling online to settle these sots of things.
Anyway, i agree with Wesley, I could read something more juicy in the Womens Weekly. I feel sorry but really this site started out to do with HOMM! And this is just as bad as some of the others we've had lately. This game has a giant age difference. it could end at Unkahaarkon or start at a 7 yr old! Do kids really need to read about sex and a horny kid who wants it?
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IceDragon
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posted January 08, 2002 02:14 AM |
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You're all going to think I'm a total whacko here...
But I just thought I'd ask... why should a person get a "special request" before they die, anyway? If I found out tomorrow I had 2 weeks to live, would it change my life? you betcha, but I'd be trying to make amends and connections with people I had wronged, tell my family I love them... try to make it all right, and enjoy what I have rather than bemoan what I don't. Heck, I try to live that way anyway, because I don't know when I'll die. You gotta live with your priorities straight, then you have no regrets and nothing you want to do.
What makes this kid so special? Because he lives in a rich country where people actually CARE about him, and has cancer? No offense, but boo friggin' hoo. Why don't kids in a third-world country who are starving or have AIDS get special requests? How about that 12 year old girl in Singapore that has 5 STD's because she's worked as a prostitute all her short life since her parents sold her? She's dying too... life's dealt her just as bad (if not worse) a hand as that kid. Or soldiers, when they go to war and get killed?
Frankly, I think it was a typical selfish desire of a teenager and the fact that you are dying does not mean the world owes you anything, even sex. If there was a girl out there who wanted to GIVE him sex... fair enough. There are places that GIVE trips to Disneyland and what have you to kids who have terminal disease. But "I'm dying and I've never had sex, can I please??" Even when it's true it sounds really pathetic, using pity as a tool to get what you want. He could have spent more time cultivating a real relationship with a girl if he'd really wanted to (come on! pen pals, email pals, there is NO WAY this kid could not have possibly met a girl that liked him unless he really was a totally spoiled pity party person!) He took the easy way out using pity as his excuse, and for that, I have no sympathy for him at all. He was weak.
Of course, that's just my opinion.
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RMS
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posted January 08, 2002 03:57 AM |
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Edited By: RMS on 7 Jan 2002
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Ok, listen up whomever wants to hear this. Since this topic has lasted this long, it’s about time that Mr. Morality spoke up. Frankly, I am a bit surprised that out of everyone (which sadly isn’t well represented here), I agree mostly with a dragon! Ack! (No offense meant of course )
…and no, for those suspicious of everything I do, I’ve awarded QPs because they’re probably some of the most thoughtful responses that I’ve seen in some while…and I guess I’ve fallen a bit behind…afterall, 2% in this place is a whole lotta posts
…I have to warn you though, that there is an hour’s worth of my thoughts to come…
…anyway, back in the lounge…
To make it clear, I have nothing against the boy’s (substitute man, if you want) wish, so long as it is consensual…however, one of the parts that threw me off was that of doing it with a prostitute. Now make no mistake, although I generally disfavor it’s concept, it is needed in all societies (not to mention you can’t really stop it) I would favor his decision more, had it been with someone more his age- someone also “mature” enough to make her own decision, and did it out of love for him…even if it’s the supposed “modern teenage love” that’s better than hiring someone who basically has no feelings for him, except perhaps pity.
I will tell you this though. Had I been in his decision, that would definitely not be the main thing on my mind. Sure, I admit that it would probably be in my thoughts, but if I knew for certain that I would die soon, or be convinced of it, I can think of many ways of making my last hours on earth more productive. I wouldn’t say that it was necessarily selfish, but if I had one last earthly wish to make along with anything else that is within my grasp to do, I would not wanted to be treated as inferior. I certainty would appreciate the love that I was getting from everyone, and the sympathy, but I would not want pity. To tell you the truth, there are some hereditary diseases that are carried along my family bloodline and I will probably have a shorter life-span than an average healthy person, but still that comes to mind sometimes.
In our earthly existence, we cannot take anything with us. The only certain part of life is death. I disagree with those who say that life is suffering. Life is not suffering. We may all experience it as part of our lives, but blessed by our heavenly father, we all have a chance at redemption. One day, well shall all come to face with our almighty father, the creator of all. He cares for us all and is the most generous of any being in existence. On our judgement day, there are two destinations for us. I may sound selfish, but for those that believe, I doubt that anyone would have any doubt of which path they would much rather prefer.
My point is, that since we cannot take anything with us, it is by our lives, our actions and our very thoughts that will be judged. If my last days were closing in, I would focus more on my spiritual life, and my emotional life-span on earth, and work to try and bring it to a nice close. I would try to work on developing my existing relationships, and if I attract attention or media somehow, despite how unwanted that would probably be for me, I would at least have friends. In my lifetime, even if my schooling was interrupted, and had a tough time trying to get to know people, fifteen years is a good portion of time wasted. I do not with to die such a death, but it is not my decision who dies when, and how. We have been given free will to do as we wish, but fate guides our lives. The road may be wide, but it still exists. I admit that I fear death, and that I hope it will not come too soon, but when it does come, I pray that I shall be ready. Until that day, I will try to prepare to the best of my ability, and live as righteous a life as I possibly can. I know that my life has been sinful and that humanity has no choice but to be innately sinful, but we must try and change our lives. Even with all spiritual aid, we must make the final decision.
Trying to draw on my life experiences, I am different from most people I know. I have difficulty remembering most of my personal past experiences of life. Of my past two or three years, I have faint recollections, but I can remember it somewhat. However, before then there are only a few distinct events that I remember, but besides that, I I remember are generalities and feelings. Through all my life even up to now, although I have changed most drastically since I got into high school, I am certainty not the person you may imagine me to be online. Although I still hold the same code of ethics, and generally act the same, I am much more comfortable with written words than those spoken aloud. I am not a native born English speaker, and although I have grown and been placed in such an English speaking system from the very beginning, I had difficulty learning the language quite as fluently and extensively as my peers. I am a bit more outspoken now, but I am usually still quite reserved. I was once an extremely timid and shy boy, and the essence of those qualities do I still possess, but it was with great difficulty that I accomplished it. Being secluded from others, save for maybe a handful…perhaps more than that, I have never had any more of what I can call true friends that I’ve talked to or confided with, as you can see, I can speak decent English. Now, actually my written English language is quite a large step over my science and math based skills, as the pattern has shown through my short young life. I know I have again veered off onto a tangent, but my point is that if I can form some close relationships, then it could not have been too very difficult for this boy to have known at least some people and been able to talk with them.
People say that life is not fair, and that some people are born with unequal chances to live and the condition that they live in. One may argue that many people, had they been placed into a different environment would have excelled, and been an esteemed member of our history records. Personally, I don’t care to be famous, but I do wish to be recognized. Life is fair. God is justice and fairness. Take life as you have it and deal with it. There’s no changing what things have been. Don’t worry too much about your past. Instead, reflect on it, and concentrate on the present. What is important is now. One should have hopes and aspirations for the future, but lingering on just that will do no good. Even if One has a limited life-span, they can change things. Everyone has the power to influence the world. Even the secluded hermit who lives on the mountainside can have some impact on the world. We just may not know what it is. Whatever that may be, that is in some ways slightly similar to the workings of God. He does things that we do not understand, and I do not believe that we are expected to understand everything. We should concentrate on our lives and what we should do. Brief physical pleasure may bring some reprieve, but in the long run it is nothing. As a wise person once said, “when I die, I would rather have someone ask why I do not have a monument, rather than why I have one”. Life is here and it is how it is. We may not like it, but he should learn to deal with it. We can change our own little portion of the world, and history, whether recorded or not. To me, at this point and time, a close and strong emotional and/or spiritual bond to God and to our family, our friends, a lover or whoever is so much stronger and meaningful than a physical one. There are so many people that enter loveless marriages and do it out of benefit for their physical wealth and security, but built with no love, emotion or any feelings for another will only end in despair and destruction. We need not go to the extremes and say that those in extreme poverty can sometimes have a much easier time to find a basic happiness in their lives of what they have, than those do with all the riches of the world.
I believe that happiness as well as joy, sorrow and all other feelings are relative. Emotions are a personal expression and experience. It is our feeling and it is our decision if we want to try to share it with others or not. The riches people in the world can feel happiness, and despite popular opinion, they can be fulfilled in their love life. They can be emotionally and spiritually satisfied. There is no way to truly judge the level of happiness, whether someone is happier than another, for it is relative. We all have equal chances in this world. There are those that may try to take away our rights, and they are what I like to call criminals. There are so very many born into poverty, chaos and confusion without any choice to it, but in life, you have a choice. Whether large or small, apparent or apparent, conscious or subconscious, we always have a choice.
We are our own people, and we are free to try to do whatever we want. It may not work out, and it may not be the right thing to do. However, we have that choice, and that choice is up to us. There is a definite right or wrong of the universe. It can be argued to be relative, but such a thing cannot be possible. Therefore, this particular topic must have an outcome. It may be outweighed by other good deeds on our day of judging, but it will not be overlooked. What I think, is that unless it is out of true love between two individuals, with little distinction between the ages of the couple, it is wrong. That is all I have to say to this.
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Hexa
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posted January 08, 2002 10:11 AM |
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Edited By: Hexa on 8 Jan 2002
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Sorry for posting such a long reply (mainly due to quotes). But I just had to say this. I will not even give go into Ice Dragons’ post. Jeeeeez talk about an egocentric reply. Nice to hear that u’ve got the world all figured out. But don’t try to lay that opinion ON us.
[RMS]To make it clear, I have nothing against the boy’s (substitute man, if you want) wish, so long as it is consensual…however, one of the parts that threw me off was that of doing it with a prostitute. Now make no mistake, although I generally disfavor it’s concept, it is needed in all societies (not to mention you can’t really stop it) I would favor his decision more, had it been with someone more his age- someone also “mature” enough to make her own decision, and did it out of love for him…even if it’s the supposed “modern teenage love” that’s better than hiring someone who basically has no feelings for him, except perhaps pity.
[Hexa]Why would that throw u off RMS. Would u rather have had some young innocent girl that ‘did it’ out off pity (who might have psychological troubles from this later on in live) then some-one (a prostitute in this case – watch how I carefully steer away from the word snow) who does it to earn a living (least likely to be affected Psychological by this…wouldn’t u agree?).
[RMS]I will tell you this though. Had I been in his decision, that would definitely not be the main thing on my mind. Sure, I admit that it would probably be in my thoughts, but if I knew for certain that I would die soon, or be convinced of it, I can think of many ways of making my last hours on earth more productive. I wouldn’t say that it was necessarily selfish, but if I had one last earthly wish to make along with anything else that is within my grasp to do, I would not wanted to be treated as inferior. I certainty would appreciate the love that I was getting from everyone, and the sympathy, but I would not want pity. To tell you the truth, there are some hereditary diseases that are carried along my family bloodline and I will probably have a shorter life-span than an average healthy person, but still that comes to mind sometimes.
[Hexa]So in other words you are trying to say that u are a ‘better person’ because u wouldn’t ask for something like this??? I’m sure u would want world peace when u are on your dying bed .. yuk such ignorance makes me sick.
[RMS]In our earthly existence, we cannot take anything with us. The only certain part of life is death. I disagree with those who say that life is suffering. Life is not suffering. We may all experience it as part of our lives, but blessed by our heavenly father, we all have a chance at redemption. One day, well shall all come to face with our almighty father, the creator of all. He cares for us all and is the most generous of any being in existence. On our judgement day, there are two destinations for us. I may sound selfish, but for those that believe, I doubt that anyone would have any doubt of which path they would much rather prefer.
[Hexa] Well I’m happy that u are sooooo sure that this will happen. There are people that are not so sure. Perhaps this boy we are talking about too. Can a boy his age’ faith be so strong I ask you? Can you blame him for attempting to taste some of the earthly pleasures while he is here. I for one cannot say that I wouldn’t want something soley for me if it where my time to ‘go’ now … can YOU (no-one can say that unless they have been there).
[RMS]My point is, that since we cannot take anything with us, it is by our lives, our actions and our very thoughts that will be judged. If my last days were closing in, I would focus more on my spiritual life, and my emotional life-span on earth, and work to try and bring it to a nice close. I would try to work on developing my existing relationships, and if I attract attention or media somehow, despite how unwanted that would probably be for me, I would at least have friends. In my lifetime, even if my schooling was interrupted, and had a tough time trying to get to know people, fifteen years is a good portion of time wasted. I do not with to die such a death, but it is not my decision who dies when, and how. We have been given free will to do as we wish, but fate guides our lives. The road may be wide, but it still exists. I admit that I fear death, and that I hope it will not come too soon, but when it does come, I pray that I shall be ready. Until that day, I will try to prepare to the best of my ability, and live as righteous a life as I possibly can. I know that my life has been sinful and that humanity has no choice but to be innately sinful, but we must try and change our lives. Even with all spiritual aid, we must make the final decision.
[Hexa]What a load of ****. To start with, u don’t know what u would do because you haven’t been in that situation (I assume). Second … your comment would make a nice phrase in some book but not in REAL LIFE. I’m really sorry for u that u’ve got such a strange (putting it mildly) view on the real world.
[RMS] live as righteous a life as I possibly ..
[Hexa]if you would have to do that in these last few moments of your life … it would be far to late (agreed?).
[RMS]People …….. world.
Oke … mostly nicely put
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malkia
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posted January 08, 2002 10:23 AM |
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HEXA, Nice Pyramid - you drawn there
But, fellas don't you see that the only one who gonna make anything from that is the snowin' MEDIA! So MEDIA will be the one having great SEX - not the boy! You see we are under oppression, under big big big MEDIA oppression! And who gives a puck about boy with cancer wanted to have sex with a prostitute who don't give a puck about his cancer.
THERE ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS!
this boy gonna die, why should we care bout him? we even don't know him. And why we have to put ourselves on his place - having cancer, being 15, wanted as last wish sex, and media being interviewing you - is happening for the first time - so it's very rare! we are not him! puck him! He's out of our statistics. He even don't play Heroes.
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Hexa
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posted January 08, 2002 10:32 AM |
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hmm bit harsh but true ...
It was also the reason I hadn't replied to this thread before.
Just couldn't stand Ice Dragon and RMS making these replies!@
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rychenroller
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posted January 08, 2002 10:59 AM |
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amen hexa, harshness is good.
was a tad hard to read the post tho lol
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celfious
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posted January 08, 2002 11:09 AM |
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why didnt you belive me?
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this is an IM Wesley sent me... "go on, wake the devil"...what does that mean? please show me Wesley.
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Well rych... LoL
This was infact profisised a month or so back. Here in the community even!! If you look for the thread's, other's would remember as much as I do 
One was deleted for some, mystical reason!!!
I'm not "the one" to find the other thread!
SEE PEOPLE!!! GO AHEAD!!! "wake the devil"
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Batvanio
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posted January 08, 2002 11:11 AM |
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xxxx$x
Yes, I agree with Hexa and malkia.
If the boy's last wish was to play HOMM till death,
then that is a question.
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RMS
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posted January 08, 2002 12:54 PM |
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...I knew that you of all people would have posted something like that...just couldn't take hearing that from Mr. Morality who lives under a rock, huh? ...hmm, well as usual this'll probably be replaced later today when I get back...
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malkia
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posted January 08, 2002 12:59 PM |
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Where was Mr. Morality when LUCY CLARK wrote this?
Mr.Morality is dead, he's been deadly wounded in the French Revolution - and he's now undead - a vampire. BTW - without head he's my friend though, cause i'm undead - and we undead we got only undeads as friends 
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IceDragon
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posted January 08, 2002 01:55 PM |
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aww Hexa.
"But don’t try to lay that opinion ON us."
There ain't anybody makin' anyone read the post, hon. Opinions are like *** holes. Everyone's got one. Unlike those unmentionables, however, in free countries like America and Australia, we're very lucky to be able to express them.
And egocentric? That's actually the first time I've been accused of it, though I have been accused of being moralistic (I just didn't bother to get into the moral details here, RMS covered them pretty well). I've visited nursing homes before just to talk with little old ladies. I give to charity. I'm not a mean person, but I am practical, and I tend to be blunt.
And dude... people can agree to disagree and be civil to each other. You've got a good heart and good motives, but I think you were a bit harsh to RMS's post. I mean... geez. I'd never accuse you of being ignorant, call what you were saying a "load of ****", or say I felt sorry for you because you weren't connected with "real life" just because I didn't agree with your point of view. I am not trying to be offensive here... but that sounds as egotistical to me as my post may have sounded to you.
You're more than welcome to have your opinion (just like everyone else!) but I think you could perhaps choose your words with a little more consideration for others because, again, not everyone will agree with you.
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Hexa
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posted January 08, 2002 02:23 PM |
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Hmm Icedragon .... perhaps I did go off the deep end a bit here ... but I just got angry.
Congrats on that ... because I'm usually not easily angered.
It wasn't my intention too diss you or RMS (well at least not to the extent I just did).
I'm not gonna edit it though (that would be lame).
Just wondering why the two of you can't see what u have actually posted here.
Of course, everybody is talking from his or her own perspective (frame of reference) but I still think you are ignorant.
I’m also wondering how you can conclude that I have a good heart and good motives ( I know I have them .. but you can’t know that). Further more I respect people that are practical … being blunt is no problem either.
But the point you are making with “12 year old girl in Singapore” simply ain’t valid.
Do you because of hunger in the third world stop eating the things u do. DO u save every single buck that u don’t need for your primary life-support for such a cause.
I’m not saying that u should do these things .. mind you. That would be highly unrealistic and not practical.
The things u used to lash out with are also highly unpractical. Of course it is said that there are million of people dying from starvation and that there are millions of children used in prostitution and there are people freezing to death in Russia for instance.
But that does not say that we shouldn’t help anyone that we can … in this case perhaps a rich kid that wants to get laid
[edit]before dying. Do u understand my point now?
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posted January 08, 2002 02:59 PM |
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If its true that you have cancer,
i feel sorry for you!
Hope you get to have sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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IceDragon
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posted January 08, 2002 10:54 PM |
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I see what you're thinking from your point of view, Hexa, but I simply still don't agree with it. *shrugs* Both our points of view in this case are solely from our belief systems. Belief systems can be hard things to argue logically because... well, they're BELIEFS, and not facts. According to my belief system, the kid shouldn't have done that. According to yours, he was well within his rights. Chances are that neither of us, no matter how long or fast we type, will convince the other that they're right... so I reckon we'll just have to "agree to disagree" on this one. Which is fine... I mean, how boring would this world be if everyone agreed with everyone else? We'd all have absolutely nothing to talk about!
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posted January 09, 2002 12:49 AM |
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why would the 12 year old girl who's dying of std's want sex anyway? that's just sick
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RMS
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posted January 09, 2002 02:11 AM |
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Hmm, well I don't want to fan the flames, but I'm not exactly going to leave it be either...although now that I've actually read it all, after today I'm pretty much brain dead, but I will give a concluding thought to what I have said.
First of all, I really could care less if you were offended or whatnot, because I had nothing of the sort in my mind. Therefore, I will not generalize how I would act in the future, but simply reply that you should say whatever you wish, and when the time comes, I will react the way I feel like at the moment.
...it's differences like this that separate the two of us, and in my case, so many others and I...
I simply do not agree with your views. I will not say that yours are ignorant or lacking in good judgement, for I would be at fault for making such unfounded and utterly false remarks. You are entitled to your opinion, as I believe I am to mine. I respect you to have your views, but if they conflict with mine, I will not come out and say that I agree.
I seems that always you are working very hard to make the differences the two of us very distinct, and to increase the gap. So I have very few if any friends at all. So I may be quite lonely most of my life and may remain that way. I do care, but it is not as important to me as my beliefs.
Hopefully this is something like how it goes, but even if it isn't, oh well...and for those of you who are familiar with this passage, I realize that it was referring more to a lover than anything else, but the same concept applies I think...
”If you can love me for what I am, we shall be the happier. If you cannot, then I will still seek to deserve that you should. I will not hide my tastes or aversions. I will trust what is deep is holy, and I will do strongly before the sun and moon whatever rejoices me and the heart appoints. If you are noble, I will love you; if you are not, I will not hurt you and myself by hypocritical attentions. If you are true, but not in the same truth as I am, cleave to your own companions. I will seek my own.
I have not traveled as far as you on the road of life and am less well versed in the lessons of life, and all the experiences that are lain out on it for me, but I am not quite as naïve as you may like to believe. You may detest my values and the morals that I hold dear, but hopefully you can come to accept them for what they are, for that is who I am. I may not be a life-devoted religious child, but neither would I consider myself a “Sunday Christian”. I will not go into a religious debate, but it is not so much which religion one practices or what “god” it dedicates the world to, but rather what one feels consequently. Life is crucible of emotion, feelings, lessons, joy and tribulation. Life is something to be experienced and not taught. I may come to chance in the future, and reject all the views I now hold, but whatever happens, I speak not of tomorrow or of yesterday. I speak not of how I may when go to bed tonight or how I feel when I arise. Instead, I speak from a combination of my heart and soul, of what I know and feel now.
It matters less of what is the truth than what one believes. It is a bit like the placebo effect, and false teachings may have bound me and closed my eyes, but just as blindfolded prisoner led in front of a firing squad, I follow my chosen path. I make my own decisions, whether I am influenced by spiritual or secular forces.
My point in conclusion is that I could care less for this boy of which we speak. I do not know him and he must decide for himself what he wants. I cannot stand in his way. I am not there. However, as the saying goes, if I place myself in his shoes, I am no longer myself. Instead, I become him. Our actions are predetermined, through our free will to create them. Life goes one way and one way only. Had I been born next door, or perhaps one second later, I would not be the same person. However, as in my thinking now, if I were in that position, his thoughts would most likely differ from mine. Quite frankly, I doubt that sex would be the first thing on my mind. Of course, I too enjoy such physical pleasures offered to us, but if I were close to the end of my life, there are other things I would concern myself with. Had I had someone who truly love me as much as I loved her, yes I suppose if she wished, I would do so. I have nothing against the concept in itself, but more based on the circumstances. If I could have both that freely, and the chance to simply be able to spend my last hours talking and listening to all my family and friends, I would be happy. Despite my being able to simply sit here and say so, if I had only one choice though, I would choose what I have been explaining all this time. There is no need to make a desperate attempt to right all wrongs committed in my lifetime. It is so close to my death anyhow, that it would not matter much to me anymore. When the footsteps of death approach, I would dedicate my life to ensure the happiness of others. If it was necessary for me to pour my heart out and make me feel better, I could feel free to do it. However, if I could contain it, I would just go and find a way to leave, being able to think that I have left my friends in peace, being able to know that I have done something to even in the slightest way, made someone else’s life a little better than it might have been, without.
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Hexa
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posted January 09, 2002 08:40 AM |
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hmmmm.....
First I would like to say that I have quite a bit respect for you RMS and I'm not trying to widen the "gap" between us (which I don't think there is anyway).
If you are really the age you say you are, I think that have a sharp mind and a very nice way with words. U should however not take this personally.
I respect your (Icedragon, RMS and the rest of the bloody world's) opinions as we are all unique individual’s with our own little package of value’s and stuff.
I will write a better reply (as I feel this is necessary) as soon as I’ve got the time.
Then I’ll return to my usual nonsense flippant posting style that you’ve al come to love!@
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If you want to realize your dreams >>> you have to wake up!@
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