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xerdux
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SPOILERS WoW: Cataclysm leaked
Posted on one of the most famous WoW fan-sites.
None of the information below has been officialy announced by Blizzard, this is only a compilation of information gathered from reliable sources. Just keep in mind that it takes a LOT to make me post something on the front page and I'm definitely not speculating here.
Other sites started it, I'll try to finish it. Think twice before you read this post, we have a lot of spoilers here.
Update - Another update from the Something Awful forums (which are sadly private). I cannot confirm this for the moment but the part about Cairne Bloodhoof does make a lot of sense.
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Azeroth is changed completely. Some zones are completely destroyed, some are shattered, some are flooded (Thousand Needles), some are ripped in half. Coastlines the world over are changed. Durotar is wrecked, along with Orgrimmar, which is torn in two. A new orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion. Gnomes retake Gnomeregan in an instance.
Malfurion comes back and helps activate the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall. Thrall hands over leadership of Horde to Garrosh Hellscream while Thrall serves as a coordinator for both Horde and Alliance forces and players to combat the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Garrosh declares open war on the Alliance, and you can expect more Wintergrasp like areas on the old map. Due to some political manipulations, Cairne Bloodhoof gets painted as a betrayer and is murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son takes over as Tauren chief.
For Worgen, the Cataclysm brings the Greymane wall down, revealing their secret -- that the worgen curse has ravaged the kingdom. They've managed to find a cure that keeps their human mind permanently but also keeps them in their worgen form. Seeing that they can no longer survive alone, the worgen residents of Gilneas rejoin the Alliance.
As for Goblins, Deathwing calls on the goblins as slaves like he has in the past. Their leader decides to go with Deathwing and enslaves his people because there's no crossing Deathwing and surviving. Fortunately, a large group manages to escape and join the Horde, knowing that they can't go it alone. See the pattern here?
The level cap is 85. New landmasses include islands that are raised as a result of the cataclysm, underwater zones, and the newly-redone old-world zones. Flying mounts will be useable in Azeroth. Many old-world dungeons are changed completely.
Half the point of Cataclysm is to remake the old quest lines, eliminate redundancy and give an overall narrative to all players, whether level 1 or 80. At any particular vanilla area, you can expect to see reconstruction/relief efforts, or all out war between Horde and Alliance NPC's. Wailing Caverns is going to be completely redone into a lush green tropical area, as a result of the druids working their magic to prevent it from falling into lava.
Leveling from 80-85 will be a MUCH bigger deal. Initially in 2008, they considered not raising the level cap at all, as making those quests takes a lot of manpower away from raiding content. But they are trying to make the story so grand and sweeping that ding'ing will actually MEAN something and not just be something you do. An idea that was kicked around was making the tier gear go along with levels.
Expect a couple of underwater cities to be on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales.
Make no mistake, the Old God content is not done. Since Netharion and Azshara both have ties to Old Gods, it is now clear that the SERIES wide antagonists of WoW are the Old Gods.
As I said, the part about Cairne makes a lot of sense because in the latest PTR Patch, all the quests given by Cairne's son have been removed from the game and a new NPC has been created to take his place. Cairne's son is missing from the current version of the game. (You can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?)
Stay cautious about this one, only what I posted below should be 100% accurate.
World of Warcraft - Cataclysm
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.
New Classes
The expansion doesn't have any new class. Instead, Blizzard will offer more race and classes combinations to players, some of them have been datamined on the 3.2.2 Test Realms.
•Human Hunter
•Orc Mage
•Night Elf Mage
•Dwarf Mage
•Blood Elf Warrior
•Dwarf Shaman
•Undead Hunter
•Tauren Paladin
•Tauren Priest
•Gnome Priest
•Troll Druid
Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.
This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.
New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.
Goblins
The Goblins have found themselves washed upon an island off the coast of The Barrens, their islands devastated by the cataclysm. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.
It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclysm with the revelation of the Goblins' displacement.
Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. The Worgen have ventured forth from Gilneas and sought help from the Alliance, deciding to join them to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.
Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.
Last but not least, Worgens will have two forms and will be able to morph between a human form and a worgen one. Players should be able to pick both appearances when they create their character.
New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.
Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. Some zones will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,
•The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
•Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.
Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,
•Hyjal (present)
•Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
•Uldum (Most likely as a dungeon)
Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.
As far as I know, Ragnaros will also be back in this expansion.
Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?
Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?
The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?
Everything might not be true or correct.
We will see in a week.
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Totoro
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posted August 15, 2009 11:00 AM |
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Edited by Totoro at 11:01, 15 Aug 2009.
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They make new expansions too fast, which just proves that they're hungry for money. They make them because they want more income, not because their heart desires so.
But that's just about the case everywhere. Everything is made with profit as the greatest incentive on the background.
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xerdux
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posted August 15, 2009 11:18 AM |
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Uhm.. its comming out next year... its just an official announchment next week.
Starcraft was delayed to 2010 and took over 10 years even though they began to develop it after Warcraft 3.
But some of this "leak" seems like BS. Garrosh new leader of the Horde? Thrall would never let that happen.
Thrall new Guardian? The WoW comic is clearly developing Med'an (son of Medivh and Garona) as the new Guardian.
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kipshasz
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posted August 15, 2009 01:30 PM |
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Of all new class and race combos, dwarf shaman seems most logical as Wildhammer dwarwes practice shamanism. Also I think that Uldum will be released in WotLK content patch, as an off shot location like Caverns of Time.
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xerdux
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posted August 15, 2009 02:56 PM |
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No, Uldum wont be released in WotLK.
Blizzard has said that there wll only be 3 content patches.
3.1 Secrets of Ulduar (Titan-prison with Old God in it)
3.2 Call of the Crusade (Training Elite Soldiers against Icecrown Citadel)
3.3 Icecrown Citadel (Arthas will die here)
Then we will have 4.0, which is the "preparation" for Cataclysm.
After that, perhaps in late spring next year - Cataclysm will come.
This has not been confirmed by Blizzard. It might be a huge pile of BS.
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VokialBG
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posted August 15, 2009 03:18 PM |
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Yep, I knew it... You'll go to the broken islands, kill that naga queen, kill some sort of gul'dan clan mates or some image of himself, kill some trolls, meet some friendly trolls (darkspears are from there), go to the tomp of Sargeras, maybe kill him.
If they add all the class change... well this is going to ruin the fun for me... Tauren paladin??? How is this possible? I still think that giving palas to the hord and shams to the allies was not good idea.
However, the only good idea is bringing the Goblins back to the horde, wonder how they are going to change all the goblin neutral towns... if they will.
Also, since goblins saved Thrall, barrens is splitted, etc, this mean that the alliance will take advantage in the war.
And... ally worgens... sounds really stupid...
Seams like blizz are going out of ideas to me. I really hope the end of wow is camming!
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xerdux
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posted August 15, 2009 03:26 PM |
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Actually, many of the sea islands seems to have blew up with the Cataclysm 
It says the Goblin island blew up (Kezan).
Well, the Tauren Priests and Paladins are not the same as the human ones. These worship the Sun and the sungod An'she.
Anyway, its like a 50% chance that this is true.
This might be a cover up for the real expansion.
The Worgen you play are cursed humans btw from Gilneas.
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VokialBG
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posted August 15, 2009 03:47 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 15:48, 15 Aug 2009.
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One more think, if it's true, I don't see it as fair for the horde, somehow I think it's going to ruin (maybe not the playing) the lore balance.
- They destroy Durotar and split the barrens
- Take out Thrall
- Put worgens near the undeads (horde areas)
- NE druids are having work in the barrens
- 1000 needless are gone (most of it was horde territory)
Most likely they will kill some racial leaders as well (at least someone will die after such cataclysm).
Seems like they are going to strike on Kalimbdor.
That's why I think on it like it's not true (or at least part of it isn't), there have to be some kind of cataclysm for the Eastern Kingdoms as well, or you know... allies will take over the world.
On other side, isn't it more possible if Thrall give his warchief duties to one of the other racial leaders like the Troll one or the Tauren one, instead of Hellscream's son?
About the Tauren paladis, I think that cowmen worship the gods by being druids and shamans, anyway I was alywas thinking that Tauren paladin is going to be one of the top classes, because of the cool racial abilities.
Still this can't make me play WoW again.
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xerdux
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posted August 15, 2009 03:56 PM |
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Oh, im sure that they will replace those zones with something else  Look at Azshara, it doesnt serve any purpose atm. But now its going to be the new Barrens for Horde.
The Worgens secondary zone is probably going to be Kul Tiras, which is near the Wetlands (Alliance territory).
Thrall will be replaced by Garrosh. However, I think this is BS. With Thrall leaving the Horde and becoming a freaking Guardian they would have to retcon a lot of stuff.
The Night Elves are already in the Barrens in WoW. But they are evil. The Druids are probably going to be the Cenarion Circle - who are friendly to both factions
But yeah, I find it unlikely that they will just destroy the old world. -.-
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Dj
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posted August 15, 2009 05:57 PM |
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dwarf mage? *facepalm* what next? undead shaman? and two druids on the horde side...isnt this kinda umbalanced? :|
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VokialBG
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posted August 15, 2009 06:06 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 18:07, 15 Aug 2009.
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dwarf mage? *facepalm* what next? undead shaman? and two druids on the horde side...isnt this kinda umbalanced? :|
In the very beginning of WoW, there was a dwarf mage class, however it was removed with a patch and all who played it turned into priests...
And what about the Gnome Priest I was always thinking that there is none Gnome Priest, because it's going to be pretty much HUGE advantage for the alliance, and kinda uber powerful (will be best priest class for sure, and they are the best mage one already... so...). On other side Taurens are the best warrior (tank) class with equivalent ability
Races will go alike if they give them the possibility to play as all classes. So, if this is true, they may make bigger difference between... let's say Tauren and Human paladin... but really Tauren paladin HAVE TO be joke, lol!
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kipshasz
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posted August 15, 2009 06:27 PM |
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Tauren paladin..? What the... Priest may be, but paladin? This is so wrong on so many levels. I hope that this is a big load of BS
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xerdux
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posted August 15, 2009 06:55 PM |
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I dont like it either, but I will try to adapt if its true.
Gnome Priest: There are already Gnome Medics and Clerics in-game. I dont think the Gnomes will have faith in the Light but use it as a source of power.
Troll Druid: They already have a strong relation to the animal spirits and in all major troll empires, we have seen trolls turn into animals. Trolls could easily have developed their own form of Druidism.
Tauren Priest och Paladin: These are not "Holy Warriors of the Crusade". Sun Príests and Champions of An'she (
It still screwed when you consider spell names like Sanctified Retriubtion and Exorcism etc.
Dwarf Mage och Shaman: Both of these already exist in the lore. The Dark Iron are common to have Mages and Wildhammer dwarves Shamans (and even Druids).
Human Hunter: There where many Human Rangers in Lordaeron.
Undead Hunter: Same as above, except that they are undead now.
Night Elf Mage: Det är Highbourne vi pratar om. De var överklassen under WotA som försökte summona Sargeras genom Well of Eternity etc.
Orc Mage: An Evoker is a kind of Mage. Orc Evokers exist in-game. They could easily have learnt secrets of the Arcane due to their close relation with the mystical Trolls.
Belf Warrior: That there where no Belf Warriors made no sense to begin with.
Really, this isnt worse then Draenei Death Knights.
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kipshasz
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posted August 15, 2009 09:05 PM |
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Wasn't belf warrior class excluded due to limited number of classes for each race? And belf males look so gay, man it's awfull. Their arms and legs are like matches...
Goblins would be a nice addition to the Horde, as they lack a small size race. Also new body textures to some races would be nice. E.G. Orc rogue(male) could be a bit smaller and less buffed up.
Lol, i think belf dknights are stupider than draenei. Look wise at least.
Oh, and gnomes pwn.
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VokialBG
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posted August 15, 2009 10:44 PM |
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posted August 15, 2009 11:12 PM |
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Sounds like I am off wow then when this comes out... That is just to much for my little heart to handle
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posted August 16, 2009 07:16 AM |
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They make new expansions too fast, which just proves that they're hungry for money. They make them because they want more income, not because their heart desires so.
Welcome to a free market!
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xerdux
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posted August 16, 2009 09:37 PM |
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Edited by xerdux at 21:51, 16 Aug 2009.
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Blizzard have a lot more employees now.
Anyway. I have to say that I think this information is fake. I have lost all my loyalty to mmo-champion and their head Boubillou.
MMO-Champion has been right before. But they have always based their claims on extesnive data mining of the patch files and not just thre out snow from nowhere.
MMO-Champions source is apparently the Something Awful forums. Basically the trolliest forums there is. Some people from the GoonSquad/SA forums that want to spread the truth and not lies like this have come out and even took screenshots of the private parts of the SA forums.
I have seen this "inside" screenshots and bascially - everything points at that they have been tinkering and created this themself and that its not true.
Further more, when MMO "leaked" WotLK 2 years ago (based on DATA MINING and not based on trolls) - Blizzard told them to stop leak information and they did. Blizzard isnt even closing and deleting the "Leaked Expansions" thread like they did with WotLK. They are probbly laughing their asses off over at Irvine, Anaheim.
Also isnt it weird that if somebody on mmo-champion direct critism against the "leak" - they get perma banned instantly?
Meet Caled. Guy that is member of these forums and what to spread the truth. This is his post on the official forums:
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I am partly responsible.
In order to properly explain my role in all this, I have to take us back to the start of all this: The datamined Halloween masks. I and a fellow SA forumgoer (we'll call him C) immediately realized that the floodgates had been opened, so to speak. WoW fans the net over would be desperate for some kind of confirmation for the various theories and rumors swirling about... And we were going to give it to them. Over the next few days, C and I concocted a list of fake changes and additions just believable enough to be taken seriously. This was no problem - The difficult part would be getting it all onto a reputable site. Enter B.
More to come..........
And another screenshot from the private parts of the SA forums shows a thread called "Who is Caled and why is he linking screenshots etc".
There is also a guy, part of a guild called "GoonSquad", that claims that he wrote the actual expansion leak.
This is what he said:
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It's true (the leak is a lie). Allow me to explain. I am who the OP calls "Person C".
The MMOC leak itself was written by me three days ago while alt-tabbing between AFKing in AV for XP (which every self-respecting player should do, it's far easier and more productive than questing and nets you a full set of excellent epics for use in Ulduar10 right from level 80) from a small list of well-worn rumors that have been around since BC, since this would lend credence to what I said. People would fall over this information like the thirsty to water.
Person B from the original thread post here was the guy I passed my fake info to; he got it on MMOC.
It's ironic, people are losing sleep and throwing tantrums over something I procrastinated on for days and threw together in minutes.
You can breath. My conclusion is that this is fake and MMO-Champion is an ass. Worgen and Goblins are defintly comming and the next expansion will be the South Seas and possibly the Emerald Dream included in that.
But that they would destroy the old world and screw the lore ten times over is complete BS.
This is the biggest debate, scandal and propaganda right now in the WoW community. Millions of people will be pissed if it isnt true.
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posted August 16, 2009 10:24 PM |
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3.3 Icecrown Citadel (Arthas will die here)
I still wonder how they will pull it off. Arthas was a tad weaker than Illiaden before he ascended. Even with the nerfing blizzard is doing, he is ages stronger than he was before.
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xerdux
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posted August 16, 2009 10:42 PM |
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The Ashbringer...
And Ner'zhul might kill him for his betraylar aswell.
Or perhaps Sylvanas would finally get her revenge.
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