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posted February 08, 2011 11:17 AM |
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I think the LGBT-movement needs to realise that they are.. well.. gay, and as such, cannot have the rights of families.
Without biological children you can still have a family, you know 
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posted February 08, 2011 11:34 AM |
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I think the LGBT-movement needs to realise that they are.. well.. gay, and as such, cannot have the rights of families.
Without biological children you can still have a family, you know
Nah. A family requires a man, a woman and at least one child. If the child isn't theirs, it's not a true family, but a surrogate family. Surrogate families may work for children with abusive biological parents, but it's not ideal, since you cannot relate as good to other grown-ups as good as your true parents.
The problem is when gays want to adopt someone else child or lesbians demands the legal right of insemination, even insemination paid by other peoples tax money! That's putting your own interests before the child's rights. And as for transsexualism, who are mentioned in the beginning of the article, it's important that one can have a serious discussion about it's origins, without censoring oneself because of political correctness.
We are also seeing a unfortunate tendency of the LGBT-movement allying with various other sexual radical groups. In my country, it's actually nowadays the LGBTQ movement, Q standing for Queer which can refer to any sexual orientation outside the norm. The sexual radicals will not stop until they made all sexual acts normal. We can see how they are now trying to make sado-masochism something normal and accepted, but hopefully the conservative and nationalistic winds that are blowing through Europe and all of the western world will hopefully put an end to that. I would recommend the LGBT movement to not strike these kind of alliances, it could prove to be disadvantageous for them in the future.
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posted February 08, 2011 11:55 AM |
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A family requires a man, a woman and at least one child. If the child isn't theirs, it's not a true family
And that is so because...?
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posted February 08, 2011 12:27 PM |
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A family requires a man, a woman and at least one child. If the child isn't theirs, it's not a true family
And that is so because...?
The family is the most fundamental part of society, it is it's most basic cell, and exists for brining up children in a loving and disciplining way to become good members of society. A child can never have more than one mother and one father.
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That really doesn't answer the question. Nor why two men or two women can not raise a child in a loving and disciplined way. WHY can they not have more then one mother or father?
Also, what about children who tragically lose a parent?? Then they do not have a family????
Edit : Also what about divorce with remarriage to different people. That doesn't count either? Make sense man!
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posted February 08, 2011 01:35 PM |
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I think the LGBT-movement needs to realise that they are.. well.. gay
Lol.
Awesome quote is awesome
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posted February 08, 2011 02:23 PM |
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posted February 08, 2011 03:44 PM |
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I think the LGBT-movement needs to realise that they are.. well.. gay, and as such, cannot have the rights of families.
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To make a pancake you need both milk and eggs, without one or another, it's not a pancake.
You can make pancakes without milk or eggs.
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posted February 08, 2011 08:04 PM |
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I think the LGBT-movement needs to realise that they are.. well.. gay
Lol.
Awesome quote is awesome
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posted February 08, 2011 08:06 PM |
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If you're worried about the security and stability of the family structure, I'd be more concerned about the average heterosexual couple. They've compromised it more than a small percentage of gay people could ever dream of.
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posted February 08, 2011 08:49 PM |
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Frankly I don't see how kids could be any more screwed up by having two homosexual parents over two heterosexual parents. Furthermore, I don't really care either way. I get paid (for the time being) no matter who raises the kids.
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posted February 09, 2011 10:39 AM |
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That really doesn't answer the question. Nor why two men or two women can not raise a child in a loving and disciplined way. WHY can they not have more then one mother or father?
Also, what about children who tragically lose a parent?? Then they do not have a family????
Edit : Also what about divorce with remarriage to different people. That doesn't count either? Make sense man!
A person can never have more than one father and one mother. To make it literal for you: you can only be a product of one sperm and one egg. To deny a child growing up with his/her biological parents and having a male and a female pattern is to put the wishes of some adults before the rights of the child.
Of course a child who has lost one parent should grow up with his/her other parent. But no, it's not a family any longer then. Divorce is harmful to society, and should be avoided if possible. We need to put an end to this cultural relativism that makes people satisfying their own egoistic wishes and their own hedonistic lifestyle without taking any responsibility for it.
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posted February 09, 2011 11:06 AM |
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So, what's your solution to kids abandoned by parents after birth?
Living with their biological parents is obviously a no-no since they don't want the kid.
I take a guess you'd rather let the kid rot in orphanage than be adopted by homosexuals?
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posted February 09, 2011 11:34 AM |
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So, what's your solution to kids abandoned by parents after birth?
Living with their biological parents is obviously a no-no since they don't want the kid.
I take a guess you'd rather let the kid rot in orphanage than be adopted by homosexuals?
I have no problems with leaving such kids to surrogate families, through it's not the ideal upbringing. A family still requires one man and one woman loving and married with each other, however.
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posted February 09, 2011 11:39 AM |
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and if they're not married, it doesn't count? 
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posted February 09, 2011 11:46 AM |
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Still also doesn't answer WHY. *shrugs* 'Just because I say and think so' is not an answer.
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This is actually offensive to adopted children and their families.
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posted February 09, 2011 07:17 PM |
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Oh, not only to them - it's also offensive to children and parents who have the misfortune that their partner/mother/father dies.
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posted February 09, 2011 07:45 PM |
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Still also doesn't answer WHY. *shrugs* 'Just because I say and think so' is not an answer.
I don't get it.. I thought I gave a pretty clear response. The rights of the child must always come first.
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No it's not, and even if someone would claim it is, I do not care. I am proud to be politicaly incorrect!
Common.. there are loads of threads and statements on this form that could be taken as "offensive" to us christians, but that doesn't make me demanding people to self-censor themselves for the sake of what I or people like might feel about it. Such are the consequences of free speech.
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posted February 09, 2011 07:53 PM |
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The rights of the child must always come first.
And by making them stuck at orphanage, you're protecting their rights.
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Common.. there are loads of threads and statements on this form that could be taken as "offensive" to us christians, but that doesn't make me demanding people to self-censor themselves for the sake of what
us christians really like to focus on other people's lives and tell them how immoral are they, don't we?
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