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Natalka
Supreme Hero
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posted November 14, 2009 12:15 AM |
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I see from replay you are having great fun....gl and don't forget to get fun ..
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted November 14, 2009 12:19 AM |
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Sure was fun, was 3 way game, i was on scouting/creeping with my main hero ... In my plans was a little scouting fight with pay retreat in the end, and omg, gg  Sorry for off top, promise no more
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted November 14, 2009 12:50 AM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 01:04, 14 Nov 2009.
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hmmmm, just saw the replay....seems almost like a joke. 2 attack for main necro hero? and 17 for havez?..
and BTW Natalka: WHEN THAT GATE IS OPENING? will stay same? just dont feel like to replay the map for knowing this...is on 26th?
Also Infinitus, Im waiting a replay with dwarves and breaking on day 26 or 23...also achieving all those points Nat mentioned. For me, that would be interesting thing. I've never had the chance to see it, so would be nice to see such thing. 
Also joining the tournament would be fun, and not boring...Im sure wont be 2 similar games ever...
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted November 14, 2009 06:47 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 06:52, 14 Nov 2009.
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I will be posting the final Genesis Update verison late Sat night. Novemeber 14th. So if there are any other balance issues that should be added....please lets discuss them now.
So far the only changes made:
1 - One way portal added from Utopia area for Player 1 to the sunken/boat area... so BOTH players can now enter the boat from the Utopia in the same movement.
2 - Logistics cost only 3,000 now instead of 5,000
3 - The water garrison somehow got left out of the day 23 gate opening in previous verison. So now all garrions open equally at same time.
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chn-vimp
Hired Hero
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posted November 14, 2009 02:05 PM |
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Edited by chn-vimp at 14:10, 14 Nov 2009.
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I will be posting the final Genesis Update verison late Sat night. Novemeber 14th. So if there are any other balance issues that should be added....please lets discuss them now.
So far the only changes made:
1 - One way portal added from Utopia area for Player 1 to the sunken/boat area... so BOTH players can now enter the boat from the Utopia in the same movement.
2 - Logistics cost only 3,000 now instead of 5,000
3 - The water garrison somehow got left out of the day 23 gate opening in previous verison. So now all garrions open equally at same time.
agree but can u add 1Peasant or 1 Decrepit Galley near the The water garrison.main hero can attack it and fly back twon.plz add one.
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted November 14, 2009 02:58 PM |
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ye u can add one weatherbeaten galleon for extra money/ major or if anyone wishes to flee to town.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted November 14, 2009 07:28 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 20:08, 14 Nov 2009.
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I can add the galleon if ya want..no problem.... but trying to figure out how that will benefit? Vimp has been trying to explain to me, but I still dont get it..
He tells me he sends a scout and his main out on boat to take sunken.. then he puts his Main army on the scout, then attacks the galleon with Main Hero with only 7 level 1's and then retreats back to Main town.
But the part I am confused on.. is NOW your main army is trapped out on water with scout, and still has to spend couple days getting back to main land and back to main hero? Unless you have about 8 heroes and have a well setup chain to get army back?
Would think it would be much faster, to spend 1 day going to sunken 1 day to land back on land and TP home only now you have all your army? I am sure I am missing something.
Keep in mind tho.. the reason I put sunken on Water in first place was to make you take the boat and spend couple days on water... So by adding this galleon it will change the way the map was intended.
Kinda like adding a feature to Mastermind that lets you get past the BlackiesTitans that block the other stuff you didnt choose.
Maybe its best to just leave the map as it was designed to play out.. and plan your strategies accordingly????
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted November 14, 2009 09:36 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 21:37, 14 Nov 2009.
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yes, good point...no need to play another map...already too many changes I suspect ...
I think I know the reason for him to do that, and very fair from your point Jinxer to add here all the details, otherwise all players will be confused and we could assist to another late start or finish in this tourney!
As I already said, Im expecting to play Genesis here
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted November 14, 2009 11:02 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 23:09, 14 Nov 2009.
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Indeed... as I stated.. the whole point of putting Sunken in the water and not on main land, was to offer a potential source of goodies and money, but at a sacrifice of turns... which included getting on boat and fighting then landing. Not Using POOR Mans Townportal and fleeing home and chaining all army back.
I think if you want to shave off some time from your sunken temple trip... you should plan ahead to build guild 5 and get TP before you go.. or take the Snatch perk  Use some creativity. PoorMans Townportal is more of a silly game exploit anyways. Legal yes.. but silly nonetheless.
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chn-vimp
Hired Hero
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posted November 15, 2009 04:08 AM |
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Edited by chn-vimp at 04:39, 15 Nov 2009.
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is NOW your main army is trapped out on water with scout, and still has to spend couple days getting back to main land and back to main hero? YES, it is Value
Unless you have about 8 heroes and have a well setup chain to get army back? NO U just need 3 heroes u can done it
Would think it would be much faster, to spend 1 day going to sunken 1 day to land back on land and TP home only now you have all your army? I am sure I am missing something.
IN Fact if the main hero didn't do this ,frist u need speed 1day to go aboard,secend u will speed 1 days attack the sunken.at last u will speed 1 day landing.my plan ON the last day i do fly back the twon instead of landing.because some race need back twon before break the garrsion.,such as sylyan(avenger), haven(training), academy(artficer).i done it on W3D4 or w3D5 usually.then WEEK4D2 can break out the garrsion.The game has become a confrontational
Maybe its best to just leave the map as it was designed to play out.. and plan your strategies accordingly????
u r editer.u decide all the thing but on 1.9 version the garrsion on water is open.u don't need change
BTW:I edit u map in china.if u get inferno or dungeon u will get Upgradelev4 buiding auto. Yrbeth and Jezebeth use light magic skill instead of their own skills.someone like this they think that make map became more balance
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted November 15, 2009 04:19 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 04:36, 15 Nov 2009.
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well... the WaterGarrison being open was a map bug.. all garrisons was supposed to be blocked until Day 23.. so I am only fixing a map bug.
Just cause the gates open Day 23... no law says you have to be waiting there on that day to break.. Slow down, have a drink, enjoy the game a bit. Everyone is always in such a hurry.
And again I must point out once more.. that all these games you or anyone was using the poormans townportal was simply exploiting the bug of gate being open before day 23. The map was not designed to beable to do that. Crazy thing is I almost never break the water garrison... and if I do.. its never before day 23 So thats why I didnt find it sooner.
Small adjustment in your strategy will be no big deal. AS it is you rushers are already gonna Crush the majority of the players entered. They will just be taking town #2 when you guys are breaking.. so I think its silly to be worrying about an extra day on water
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted November 15, 2009 06:47 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 18:48, 15 Nov 2009.
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BTW:I edit u map in china.if u get inferno or dungeon u will get Upgradelev4 buiding auto. Yrbeth and Jezebeth use light magic skill instead of their own skills.someone like this they think that make map became more balance
HMM interesting.... I fully agree that Dungeon needs extra help.. But Inferno is super strong on this map.. and a UBER fast creeper. Not sure why you would think that giving them a boost is needed??
I would be okay with those changes.. mainly the Heroes skill changes for inferno and the level 4 Upgrade for Dungeon.. you would just need to tell me how to make those edits.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted November 15, 2009 07:52 PM |
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IF is elimination-style tourney(1 game per round), im In as well. but not enough 'space' for me to play groups, as AoW was
edit:@Jinxer: an easy old-fashion, yet quite nice boost idea for dungeon: give somthing like 14 scout and 6 maiden (not upgrades) as Joiner-army inside town. will help a bit all towns as well, but that sound fair
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted November 15, 2009 07:54 PM |
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forgot signature clown-box :)
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janmar
Hired Hero
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posted November 15, 2009 09:22 PM |
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Edited by janmar at 21:26, 15 Nov 2009.
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i want to join the tournament
msn : marko.wischnewski@gmx.de
greetz
vanJanmar
ps. which map is edited : genesis 1.9 or dark realm =?
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted November 15, 2009 11:26 PM |
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2 more joiners in the last day 
I am happy that a skilled player is joining our ranks - Vex.
@Janmar Genesis will be the only map played in this tourney.
Since we are 17 now we need 3 more people.
Deadline is extended till 18 November
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted November 16, 2009 03:41 PM |
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dark realm=genesis you blondie
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted November 16, 2009 06:29 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 18:33, 16 Nov 2009.
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dark realm=genesis you blondie
Actually.. that is INCORRECT.
DarkRealm is a Totally different map. Its more what I would call and Expansion map. Sure its based on the Genesis template.. but I changed virtually 95%+ of the position and layout and strategy and playability.. so its not the same map at all.
Infact, I would say that DarkRealm is a harder map. But thats my opinion.
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted November 16, 2009 07:17 PM |
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all i say is janmar question was quite justified
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janmar
Hired Hero
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posted November 16, 2009 09:00 PM |
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Edited by janmar at 21:00, 16 Nov 2009.
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i meant the version 1.9 or dark realm. no trouble pls
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