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Binabik
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posted December 29, 2009 12:41 AM |
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 I would have expected the opposite answer from you.
I think most of society would agree that schools for children are the responsibility of society as a whole. And I would definitely agree with that. I consider schools for children as one of the highest priorities for society. (Although I often don't agree on the TYPE of things they spend education funds for) I don't see it as a question about society as a whole being responsible, I see it as a question of how the taxes are structured.
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Moonlith
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posted December 30, 2009 02:42 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 15:53, 30 Dec 2009.
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Education yes, but healthcare no? Sounds strange to me. Considering the very basis of a prospering society is a solid fundament of education and healthcare. Unless you prefer living in the every-man-for-himself-wild-west of course.
Mind, I find it ironic people on one hand whine about how bad and hard they have it in their horrible, horrible country, but on the other maintain rediculous patriotistic believes. One would think someone might get the clue at some point.
As far as I know, it's been long since known many of the taxes in the US are un-constitutional and thus illegal. As in, you can't be arrested if you refuse to pay them, or something. Don't know the exact legal terms and routine and whatnot.
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del_diablo
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posted December 30, 2009 03:03 PM |
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The fun part about this is not..... no wait, there is nothing funny in here.
But the problem I guess is that somebody who hates their incompetent crippled goverment have to pay more taxes than they should.
What do you have to maintain? I guess:
*Primary education and scholarships
*The army and other similar instances
*Public roads?
*And really, what else? The non existing healthcare?
And you also want a somewhat unregulated marked, the problem is that the YOUR government is non-existing in having 1 good stance. You have already let several of your companies ruin their markeds and the free trade, and you have a completely ridicules patent system.
In Norway we pay our taxes, and we get quite a lot back from paying them.
We have a noticeable strict regulated marked, and we got freedom of choice.
I would say the real issue is more noticeable in the 2 last replies in the thread about 'bamas government's issue about getting trough a new healthcare reform................
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violent_flower
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posted December 30, 2009 04:53 PM |
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[quoteAs far as I know, it's been long since known many of the taxes in the US are un-constitutional and thus illegal. As in, you can't be arrested if you refuse to pay them, or something. Don't know the exact legal terms and routine and whatnot. Quote:
Yes you can, look at Al Capone, while they could not get him on racketeering they sentenced him for tax evasion. Ever heard of the two things you will do in your life for sure are die and pay taxes?
You don't just got to jail you go to Federal prison for tax evasion.Tax evasion is a crime not just here but in almost all developed countries and subjects the guilty party to fines and/or imprisonment - Don't pay in China, the punishment can be as severe as the death penalty.
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Binabik
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posted December 30, 2009 11:14 PM |
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@Moonlith & Del
What you are talking about is off-topic, but briefly it's the difference between FEDERAL government vs state and local government. I don't want the federal government getting involved in education of children for the same reasons I don't want them getting involved in healthcare; they are incompetent and it's not any of their business.
As far as taxes being unconstitutional, yea there are a lot of people who claim that, but they still get arrested. Either that or they are living in their heavily armed bunkers constantly paranoid that the feds will show up. I've known a lot of those people. They make claims about being "free", but they are so uptight and paranoid that they've become slaves to their own delusions.
Those people love to say that the Supreme Court ruled income tax unconstitutional. And it DID rule it unconstitutional. But the implication is a lie. Yes the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional, but they didn't really rule income tax itself as unconstitutional, they only ruled the specific way it was implemented as unconstitutional. So they changed they way they did it and the court was fine with it.
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Consis
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posted January 02, 2010 05:38 PM |
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Woohoo!
I love it when Binabik steps in and gets tough!
THIS is off-tpoic (>_>
Now I will school you, get ready to be PWNED.
Is it wrong to skim through a thread and only look for binabik's posts?
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violent_flower
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posted January 05, 2010 02:02 AM |
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Well you better have read mine as well Mr...
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Consis
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posted January 05, 2010 02:56 PM |
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HELL YA!
Did I read your post? Um....look I am REALLY bad at not reading other peoples' posts. I only come here to read posts from specific members. You and I go way back. You're on the list baby. LoL
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violent_flower
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posted January 07, 2010 04:59 AM |
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Thanks Consis, I know I look for certain people and some of those people don't really post anymore, such a shame.
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