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Tsar-Ivor
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posted March 07, 2013 10:24 PM |
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Their range has been nerfed significantly long ago.
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Storm-Giant
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posted March 07, 2013 10:45 PM |
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Quote: Those Protos things with the ridiculous range look OP as hell to me. But the Zerg things that just produce units for free are awesome... Them + Infested terrans and fungles... Use a Nydus worm to get into the base... Aww yiss...
Tempest have bad dps, yes is 15 of range but it's 3.3 full seconds of cooldown between shots.
Obviously I'm talking vs non massive units, coz that stupid +50 of damage they have is damn huge.
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posted March 07, 2013 10:58 PM |
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Voidrays could use a small fix, also the Widow Mine shouldn't kill 40 lings in one shot.. just too strong.
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blizzardboy
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posted March 07, 2013 11:06 PM |
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I'm expecting ultras to be not-quite-as rare for late game. Between widow mines and now hellbat/hellion, terran can can pretty much render slings obsolete.
Tempests are going to be a major problem for people with poor scouting habits, but other than that they're expensive and easy to counter if you rely too heavily on them.
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Minion
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posted March 07, 2013 11:13 PM |
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Sure, but the money number of Tempest is about 3. No need to mass them imho, just a couple so you can force engagements. Big asset.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted March 07, 2013 11:13 PM |
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Quote: but other than that they're expensive and easy to counte
Assuming that a player only spams them. I see them as pretty neat if for air support function.
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posted March 07, 2013 11:15 PM |
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Quote: Voidrays could use a small fix, also the Widow Mine shouldn't kill 40 lings in one shot.. just too strong.
You know you can bait a mine shot with a single ling and it's useless that mine, right?
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Minion
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posted March 07, 2013 11:18 PM |
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Not if the mines are under a bio ball, which kills a ling or 2 before mine triggers but retreats if it is a mass of lings
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posted March 07, 2013 11:31 PM |
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Well, mass lings MUST lose against bio, you can't relay on the most basic zerg unit to fight a full bio force aided with medevacs and such.
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Minion
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posted March 07, 2013 11:42 PM |
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Ling, baneling, Muta... Widow Mine makes the engagements against terran a nightmare. But we don't need to argue about that, anothers nightmare is anothers daydream But I still reserve the right to consider it too strong
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posted March 08, 2013 01:34 PM |
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Quote: Ling, baneling, Muta... Widow Mine makes the engagements against terran a nightmare.
Terran was a nightmare even without widow mines ...
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posted March 08, 2013 01:45 PM |
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Also, use ultras to tank WM shots. It's a must in lategame situations
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posted March 09, 2013 02:28 AM |
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Oh, their range has been nerfed? That's good, they looked so scary. Still, the other two things look like such a pain, even if they're awesome. Both the Oracles and the Motership.
Also, was browsing the Protos tech tree of their website, and saw this:
Quote: Dark Templar is quite OP against an enemy with no detectors
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posted March 09, 2013 03:35 AM |
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I wonder how effective banes will be against hellbats though? They're slow enough that they wouldn't be able to retreat, and transforming would take too long unless you know they're coming in advance. Obviously not as great as against a juicy ball of rines, but with stim pack they can often avoid the worst of it anyway.
I never really did learn to use banes as well as I should have. I get irritated and demoralized whenever I'm not able to pull off some really good kills so a lot of times I don't bother with them even in situations where they'd be good. It's like it's all or nothing. Kamikaze's don't get a second chance.
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posted March 09, 2013 11:46 AM |
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Banelings do splash, so they are good if units are clumped. So they can situationally be good vs. Hellbats, but yeah, when Hellbats are divided Banelings are not cost effective at all. So to put it simply, for sure do not build a baneling nest to counter Hellbats Build Roaches.
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posted March 09, 2013 01:47 PM |
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Quote: Oh, their range has been nerfed? That's good, they looked so scary. Still, the other two things look like such a pain, even if they're awesome. Both the Oracles and the Motership.
The mothership? Why? Or are you refering to the mothership core?
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Vindicator
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posted March 09, 2013 01:51 PM |
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Yeah, I'm referring to the Core. I was probably overreacting, but it just seems like such a useful, scary thing to have.
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posted March 09, 2013 01:58 PM |
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Oh yes, it strengths a lot Protoss early pushes, and the recall abilty is simply too much for earlieres stages. I hope it's changed to a researchable ability so it comes later in the game...
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted March 10, 2013 09:35 PM |
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Starcraft Ghost opening cinematic.
"Does anybody know the XO down there?"
"Captain Buck. He's an idiot."
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posted March 11, 2013 03:39 PM |
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So in severals hours the game's out and I still haven't got it :S
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