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SkrentyzMienty
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posted November 23, 2010 11:13 PM |
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My factions that incorporate creatures absent in H4&H5 and some new ones.
As the series progresses, we have seen that the number of factions and amount of creatures has decreased. This really takes away from the variety of HOMM and even if some creatures were expelled from certain factions (e.g. Medusa from Dungeon) the developers could have at least made them neutrals. So, I have composed about 5 different factions that incorporate creatures that have left HOMM.
I have tried my best to come up with reasonably balanced line-ups (shooter,caster,walker,size, and power wise) and also allocated particular creatures in factions, whose theme matches them (at least IMO  ) This is my little suggestion for some H6 towns that I would like to see in the expansions. So far, we have been revealed with 5 factions(which are of course more important than mine because they are purely HOMM classics): Haven, Inferno, Necropolis, a town from H5(e.g. Sylvan or Academy), and a new town(a hinted Naga town  ). So if my factions were taken into consideration, it would leave H6 with 10 factions, which most people would consider too much, but I just wish that at least ONE of them interests you Oh, and I have included alternate upgrades, too(the names are not too important as I have mainly concentrated on the units themselves). Please comment and tell me what you think.
ATLANTIS (an aquatic town, this is what I hope the H6 Naga Town to be)
1.Level- Murloc - Murloc Spearwielder/Aqua Guard (Walker/Walker)
2.Level- Sea Snake - Coatl/Sea Serpent (Flyer shooter/Flyer)
3.Level- Basilisk - Greater Basilisk/Snap Dragon (Walker/No meele penalty shooter)
4.Level- Mermaid - Siren/Temptress (Caster Shooter/Caster)
5.Level- Naga - Naga Queen/Royal Naga (Walker/Walker)
6.Level- Myrmidon - Myrmidon King/Poseidon (Walker/Walker)
7.Level- Sea Monster – Leviathan/Sea Terror (Shooter/Walker)
*Some creature names could be modified, and their appearance adapted to HOMM style, for the WoW haters' sake.
*a lot of the units are walkers, but it should rather be swimmers because they could have a racial that allows flooding of the battlefield etc.
EUPHORIA (a town luck and morale themed, would look a bit like Shire from Lord of the Rings? )
1.Level- Halfling - Hobbit/Halfling Defender (Shooter/No melee penalty shooter)
2.Level- Leprechaun - Fortune Teller/Forest Enchanter (Caster/Caster)
3.Level- Satyr - Faun/Satyr Commander (Walker/Walker)
4.Level- Pegasus - Silver Pegasus/Celestial Pegasus (Flyer/Flyer)
5.Level- Troll - Greater Troll/Troll Warrior(H2 Style) (Shooter/Shooter)
6.Level- Roc - Thunderbird/Lightning Roc (Flyer/Flyer, both cast lightning bolt after attack)
7.Level- Faerie Dragon - Magic Dragon/Arcane Dragon (Caster flyer/Caster flyer)
MISTSWAMP (appearance-wise a cross between H3 Dungeon and Fortress)
1.Level- Gnoll - Gnoll Marauder/Gnoll Shaman (Walker/Caster)
2.Level- Troglodyte - Spiked Troglodyte/Troglodyte Monarch (Walker/Walker)
3.Level- Harpy - Harpy Hag/Harpy Witch (Flyer/Flyer, both strike&return after attack)
4.Level- Beholder - Evil Eye/Deathgaze (Shooter/Shooter, both cast random cursing spell after attack)
5.Level- Medusa - Medusa Queen/Chaos Medusa (Shooter/Shooter, both turn enemies to stone after melee attack)
6.Level- Gorgon - Devigorgon/Mighty Gorgon (Walker/Walker,both have the Death Stare ability)
7.Level- Behemoth - Ancient Behemoth/Gargantuan (Walker/No melee penalty shooter like H4)
*The town seems to lack high-level casters but most of the creatures have cursing attacks and magical abilities
TOXICARRO (a faction based around poison and would be situated in a canyon-like terrain/cave with toxic substances in the air and water etc.)
1.Level- Boar - Acid Beast/Spiked Boar (Walker/Walker)
2.Level- Lizardman - Reptillion/Lizard Bowmaster (Shooter/Shooter)
3.Level- Serpent Fly - Cobra Fly/Acid Fly (Flyer?Flyer)
4.Level- Waspwort - Carnivora/Savage Dionea (Walker/Shooter)
5.Level- Venom Spawn - Pollution Spawn/Abomination (Shooter/Caster Shooter)
6.Level- Frenzied Gnasher - Aggressor/Cave Keeper (Walker/Walker)
7.Level- Rust Dragon - Corrosionsaur/Acid Dragon (Flyer/Flyer)
FROSTFIRE (this faction's theme is about a symbiotic relationship between the elements of fire and ice/water. it would have an appearance similar to H5 Fortress with a crater in the earth and a snowy climate  )
1.Level- Wisp - Wisp Elder/Ancient Wisp (Caster Flyer/Caster Flyer)
2.Level- Gog - Magog/Magmaton (Shooter/No melee penalty shooter)
3.Level- Fire Cat - Blazing Cat/Fire Lynx (Walker/Walker)
4.Level- Tauren – Tribal Tauren/Tauren Commander (Walker/Walker)
5.Level- Efreet - Efreet Sultan/Incinerator (Flyer/Flyer, both have fire shield)
6.Level- Ice Demon - Ice Terror/Tundra Demon (Walker/Caster)
7.Level- Yeti - Wendigo/Sasquatch (Walker/Walker)
HELIOPOLIS (It is based on Ancient Egypt and some of you might say it doesn't fit in with HOMM but I think it would be a successful concept, could be explained by being revived by some unwary Mage etc. It would of course be pyramid, desert-themed. I also didn't include the upgrades as its a bit tricky since most of them are gods&goddesses ;P )
1.Level- Serpopard (Walker and long-range attacker like H4 Pikeman)
2.Level- Ammit (Walker/Walker)
3.Level- Mummy (Walker)
4.Level- Isis (Caster Shooter)
5.Level- Sobek (Walker)
6.Level- Bennu (Flyer)
7.Level- Anubis (Caster but more melee-orientated)
TRANSSYLVANIA (I think everyone has heard of Transsylvania, Romania and the Dracula story It would be a Gothic town slightly similar in appearance to the H2 Sorcerer, only darker and more frightening. A bit like a distant cousin of Necropolis only not undead xD )
1.Level- Bat – Vampire Bat/Night Echo (Flyer, life steal like Vampire/Flyer Shooter due to emitted ultrasounds, short range)
2.Level- Evil Bunny Doll – Evil Rabbit Doll/Voodoo Rabbit (Walker/Caster)
3.Level- Pumpkin – Pumpking/Mutant Pumpkin (Walker/Walker, both "jump" around the battlefield xD )
4.Level- Gargoyle – Gargoyle Observer/Dungeon Keeper (Flyer/Flyer)
5.Level- Scarecrow – Crow Tamer/Raven Wizard (Walker/Caster)
6.Level- Witch - Ocultist/Shadow Hag (Shooter Caster/Shooter Caster)
7.Level- Werewolf - Terror Howler/Moon Werewolf (Walker/Walker)
I really hope you like those towns
I didn't include any creature abilities but can do if someone asks. I can upload images as I have one for every single unit (yes, of the internet, but I found ones that really match HOMM style very well) Please comment and give suggestions
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bludgeon
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posted November 23, 2010 11:17 PM |
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Are these for heroes 6? Because it uses tier system, not 1-7 system.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 11:38 PM |
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Are these for heroes 6? Because it uses tier system, not 1-7 system.
Yes, sorry I forgot to mention, it IS for Heroes6. Just think of Levels 1,2&3 as Core 4,5&6 as Elite and 7 as Champion. So what do you think of them?
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bludgeon
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posted November 23, 2010 11:53 PM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 09:45, 24 Nov 2010.
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I like some ideas (scarecrow among others), but some not so much. Tomorrow morning I'll try to write more about it.
I like the idea and feel of euphoria, it's like a mix of h2 wizard and h4 preserve, in a good way.
But I really dislike toxicarro. A weird idea at best, and it all doesn't seem cohesive at all.
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SkrentyzMienty
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posted November 24, 2010 04:54 PM |
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I prefer the towns as they are, these town remind me of other games (WOW for example, especially when you call Snapdragon and myrmidon)
HOMM shouldn't be a copy of other games combined
I understand what you mean, but they wouldn't take the already existing town's places, just be additional factions. Also I just tried to fit in many creatures ORIGINAL to HOMM and present in previous games, and filled in some lineup gaps with e.g. Myrmidon, which yes, is inspired by the Warcraft one, but could easily be presented in HOMM graphical style I understand what you mean, though.
@Bludgeon And I'm glad that you like Euphoria And Toxicarro is meant to resemble H3 Fortress in a way(I guess you didn't like that town ) What about Heliopolis? Because I've seen some conversations about an Egyptian town in Heroes before and it received mixed reviews.
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bludgeon
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posted November 24, 2010 05:01 PM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 17:02, 24 Nov 2010.
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@Bludgeon And I'm glad that you like Euphoria And Toxicarro is meant to resemble H3 Fortress in a way(I guess you didn't like that town )
I liked fortress very much, but toxicarro sounds and feels like some mexican radioactive waste dumpsite, sorry
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What about Heliopolis? Because I've seen some conversations about an Egyptian town in Heroes before and it received mixed reviews.
Helipolis is a nice concept, but too many creatures I hear about for the first time. Maybe try to squeeze mummies and scarabs into it?
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evinin
Supreme Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 05:29 PM |
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ATLANTIS
The ideas that I like:
3.Level- Basilisk - Greater Basilisk/Snap Dragon (Walker/No meele penalty shooter)
4.Level- Mermaid - Siren/Temptress (Caster Shooter/Caster)
5.Level- Naga - Naga Queen/Royal Naga (Walker/Walker)
Atlantis is a faction that I rather not play with. Still they could be like the sea creatures in Heroes IV.
EUPHORIA
The ideas that I like:
4.Level- Pegasus - Silver Pegasus/Celestial Pegasus (Flyer/Flyer)
6.Level- Roc - Thunderbird/Lightning Roc (Flyer/Flyer, both cast lightning bolt after attack)
7.Level- Faerie Dragon - Magic Dragon/Arcane Dragon (Caster flyer/Caster flyer)
Euphoria is a good faction.
MISTSWAMP
The ideas that I like:
3.Level- Harpy - Harpy Hag/Harpy Witch (Flyer/Flyer, both strike&return after attack)
5.Level- Medusa - Medusa Queen/Chaos Medusa (Shooter/Shooter, both turn enemies to stone after melee attack)
6.Level- Gorgon - Demigorgon/Mighty Gorgon (Walker/Walker,both have the Death Stare ability)
I will like this faction more if it has a Black Dragon and not a Behemoth.
TOXICARRO
The ideas that I like:
3.Level- Serpent Fly - Cobra Fly/Acid Fly (Flyer?Flyer))
7.Level- Rust Dragon - Corrosionsaur/Acid Dragon (Flyer/Flyer)
Interesting idea.
FROSTFIRE
The ideas that I like:
5.Level- Efreet - Efreet Sultan/Incinerator (Flyer/Flyer, both have fire shield)
6.Level- Ice Demon - Ice Terror/Tundra Demon (Walker/Caster)
Nice idea for a faction. The thing I really don't like is the Yeti, I just can't see it in Heroes.
HELIOPOLIS
You are right that the most of the creatures are gods, which I think doesn't fit in Heroes. Still is sounds like a nice faction, so if you change some of the creatures, it will be better.
TRANSSYLVANIA
The ideas that I like:
1.Level- Bat – Vampire Bat/Night Echo (Flyer, life steal like Vampire/Flyer Shooter due to emitted ultrasounds, short range)
4.Level- Gargoyle – Gargoyle Observer/Dungeon Keeper (Flyer/Flyer)
5.Level- Scarecrow – Crow Tamer/Raven Wizard (Walker/Caster)
6.Level- Witch - Ocultist/Shadow Hag (Shooter Caster/Shooter Caster)
7.Level- Werewolf - Terror Howler/Moon Werewolf (Walker/Walker)
Your best idea. I would just want a vampire here but not as a Level 7 creature.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 05:49 PM |
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@Bludgeon I already put the Mummy in, and the Scarabs are a nice suggestion for a low-level creature. And LOL at the Mexican waste comparison-didn't think it's that bad xD
@evinin Thankyou for the review but you said that you would prefer to have the Black Dragon in Mistswamp, and a Vampire in Transsylvania, they would fit in great BUT the thing is that I ONLY used creatures not present in H5, so consequently I wouldn't include the Black Dragon and especially not the Vampire, since it has been confirmed in the H6 Necropolis lineup already
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evinin
Supreme Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 05:57 PM |
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Edited by evinin at 17:57, 24 Nov 2010.
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Then what would you say about an Azure Dragon (really miss them)?
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 06:03 PM |
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Then what would you say about an Azure Dragon (really miss them)?
Oh, I forgot about them. That's a great idea but(I'm sure you'll agree) it's too powerful to be even a Championn for any of the towns. It could be a neutral encountered e.g. in the Dragon Utopia on the map. I will make a Neutral list soon
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FuntimeManchop
Adventuring Hero
Adventure!
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posted November 25, 2010 12:57 AM |
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Serpent Flies, Waspworts and Frenzied Gnashers? I AM LOVING TOXICARRO.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 27, 2010 12:42 PM |
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Serpent Flies, Waspworts and Frenzied Gnashers? I AM LOVING TOXICARRO.
haha are you being sarcastic? if not, thanks. I just happen to like weird creatures lol
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veco
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posted November 27, 2010 12:47 PM |
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2.Level- Evil Bunny Doll
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none of my business.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 27, 2010 01:10 PM |
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2.Level- Evil Bunny Doll
 yes, I know it doesn't SOUND very solid and HOMM like, but I couldn't think of a better name but I think that unit (a demented evil voodoo doll) would fit that faction quite well
And what do you think of the rest of the factions? A raczej, jak się Tobie podobają pozostałe zamki, bo widzę że też jesteś z Polski
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vitorsly
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Joker!
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posted November 27, 2010 02:48 PM |
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Do you know the DEMI means half in greek mythology?
So you are upgrading a gorgon to a half gorgon?
That doesnt sound right.
And did you know that the gargoyle was in heroes V?
Its already in academy.
Apart from that I love every single one just because there are Lizardman and werewolfs and gorgons and basilisk!
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SkrentyzMienty
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posted November 27, 2010 04:35 PM |
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Do you know the DEMI means half in greek mythology?
So you are upgrading a gorgon to a half gorgon?
That doesnt sound right.
And did you know that the gargoyle was in heroes V?
Its already in academy.
Apart from that I love every single one just because there are Lizardman and werewolfs and gorgons and basilisk!
Ohh, yes I made a typo (it was meant to say Devigorgon, from Devil ) you made me realise that, thnx and I know because I study French and even in French Demi means half.
I know about the Gargoyle, I forgot to mention that it was the ONLY unit form H5 because it had an Awful appearance there The normal Gargoyle could stay with academy, but the one in Transsylvania could be similar in appearance but more dark and demonic.
Glad you like those creatures too, it was stupid not to include the Gorgon or Lizardman in H5.
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Jiriki9
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posted December 26, 2010 06:38 PM |
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Some ncie proposals, skrentyz!
I must say, though, I dislike the name, they are too...well, sepcific. Transylvania is a region, Heliopolis and Atlantis are towns...It's like having a faction called "New York", one called "Paris" and one called "Schwarzwald" (A forest region in Germany) and that's tooo specific for me. Other names are too untownish...Toxicarro, for example, or Frostfire...yet, that's only my taste
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SkrentyzMienty
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posted December 26, 2010 07:04 PM |
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Some ncie proposals, skrentyz!
I must say, though, I dislike the name, they are too...well, sepcific. Transylvania is a region, Heliopolis and Atlantis are towns...It's like having a faction called "New York", one called "Paris" and one called "Schwarzwald" (A forest region in Germany) and that's tooo specific for me. Other names are too untownish...Toxicarro, for example, or Frostfire...yet, that's only my taste
I see what you mean, as soon as I'm finished with my proposal I'll modify them. (Do you want something more H3 style? with the factions being called different fortification types, e.g. Citadel, Castle etc.?) If so, just tell me and I'll change them soon.
Edit: But some of those names would make good capitals IMO, like Helipolis for the Egyptian one, and Atlantis for the Aquatic faction.
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Jiriki9
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posted December 26, 2010 07:28 PM |
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Some ncie proposals, skrentyz!
I must say, though, I dislike the name, they are too...well, sepcific. Transylvania is a region, Heliopolis and Atlantis are towns...It's like having a faction called "New York", one called "Paris" and one called "Schwarzwald" (A forest region in Germany) and that's tooo specific for me. Other names are too untownish...Toxicarro, for example, or Frostfire...yet, that's only my taste
I see what you mean, as soon as I'm finished with my proposal I'll modify them. (Do you want something more H3 style? with the factions being called different fortification types, e.g. Citadel, Castle etc.?) If so, just tell me and I'll change them soon.
Edit: But some of those names would make good capitals IMO, like Helipolis for the Egyptian one, and Atlantis for the Aquatic faction.
I agree, the names would be great as capitols!
Yeah, the H3 style would be Great
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