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Shyranis
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posted January 27, 2011 12:07 PM |
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No sadly, nearly all politicians are in somebody's pocket so they just pay lip service.
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bixie
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posted January 27, 2011 01:28 PM |
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if sarah palin gets into office, she'll find a way to balance the budget.
she'll just go rat hunting in every major city whilst she's armed with nuclear weapons.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 27, 2011 03:01 PM |
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I know part of the proposed Republican budget would complete eliminate my job if it went through. Not a warm, fuzzy feeling.
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posted January 27, 2011 03:30 PM |
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I know part of the proposed Republican budget would complete eliminate my job if it went through. Not a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Don't worry, OD. I think the lawyers are safe... since a good portion of congressmen are lawyers themselves. Tort reform, for instance, will never happen.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 27, 2011 03:51 PM |
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Don't worry, OD. I think the lawyers are safe... since a good portion of congressmen are lawyers themselves. Tort reform, for instance, will never happen.
Actually there has been a great deal of tort reform throughout the years by the states and awards have declined. As to lawyers looking out for themselves, let me ask you this: Why don't more lawyers support gay marriage? It makes sense. Gay Marriage = Divorce = $$$. And no, I did not forget your addition of Gay Marriage = Divorce = $$$ = More Lawyers.
The proposal is to cut $420,000,000.00 from the Legal Services Corporation in order to save money. LSC is not popular with Republicans and a lot of them, lawyers included, view it as a waste of money. Can't have low income people getting free legal aid.
If the proposed cut was made, that would be the end of every legal service agency in the country. It'd leave my particular branch with $800,000/year to operate 10 offices. Couldn't be done.
I very much doubt we'd lose all of our funding but any cuts will hurt.
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posted January 28, 2011 10:07 PM |
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if sarah palin gets into office, she'll find a way to balance the budget.
she'll just go rat hunting in every major city whilst she's armed with nuclear weapons.
I ironically thinks Palin getting into the office would be a great idea.
She is relatively uncorrupted compared to her opponents, and she might keep a bit of hers wits and common sense before getting there.
The worst part is that she won't do worse than any other president, so I really can't see the disadvantage.
On the other hand, its been ages since I read anything up on Palin, I have no idea on what her current message or campaign is.
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posted January 28, 2011 10:18 PM |
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I think I would do a better job at being president than Sarah Palin would, and I don't consider myself remotely qualified to be president.
She has no business being a governor, let alone a president. She's severely uneducated with statecraft and shows an overall lack of cognitive grace. Even if I agreed with all of her ideologies, I still think she'd be an inappropriate choice.
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Raelag84
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posted January 29, 2011 01:24 PM |
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No sadly, nearly all politicians are in somebody's pocket so they just pay lip service.
I don't think that is the only reason we don't have a balenced budget.
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shyranis
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posted February 02, 2011 09:14 AM |
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No, lots of other reasons. Another would be laziness to actually work out a solution that it's just bluster (meaning, a bluff, like proposing large cuts). Deeply divided 2 party partisan politics also have people squabbling over many issues, but the ones the two parties actually agree on in practice usually balloon in spending.
Mind you, my country actually did make good on cutting government spending by 20% on average across departments in the early 90's so naybe you just need the right people to make something like that more than a bald faced lie. Coincidentally, it was done by the liberals... after winning an election against the conservatives who had a deficit issue at the time and created a new 7% sales tax.
Fortunately the conservatives of these days are now slowly cutting that tax (GST). Unfortunately the (once dirty word) deficit is slowly rising as well. Hopefully it's just a temporary thing brought on by the recession. New measures like Tax free savings accounts are nice.
Good luck down there.
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posted February 06, 2011 01:28 AM |
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Fortunately the conservatives of these days are now slowly cutting that tax (GST). Unfortunately the (once dirty word) deficit is slowly rising as well. Hopefully it's just a temporary thing brought on by the recession. New measures like Tax free savings accounts are nice.
Good luck down there.
With all due respect...cutting taxes will make the budget deficit larger not smaller. Tax free savings accounts are nice, and so are social programs and a strong national defense, but If you want to balance a budget you have to have to make due with less nice things.
At any rate balancing a federal budget during high unemployment is not usually a good thing. Lowering interest rates and spending into deficit are the only really time honored methods of addressing unemployment we have. Nevertheless good luck is always appreciated, for even a liberal like me knows that it cannot go on forever.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted February 06, 2011 02:10 AM |
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I will never understand why people are so resistant to raising taxes when it would be the most viable way to turn around our economy.
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posted February 06, 2011 05:42 AM |
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I will never understand why people are so resistant to raising taxes when it would be the most viable way to turn around our economy.
Agreed.
Oh, and to the thread question... Pft, no! Why would they? Got us there in the first place, didn't they? Why would they change?
Question to all, why do people only look at the current president and not past ones in this country?
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Shyranis
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posted February 06, 2011 06:09 AM |
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I never said cutting taxes in your country was a good thing right now. Actually, the tax cut compromise that was recently done there is probably very harmful in the current circumstance. Tax cuts do not pay for themselves and you do need to adjust things accordingly to make up for them. Usually by making cuts. As I said, the so called "Liberals" that balances the budget and made the cuts needed to remove the deficit entirely and pay a large amount of the national debt. (See, party names mean nothing, "Liberals" are centrist here. "Liberal Democrats" are pro business low tax "Conservatives" in Japan. Heck the "Liberal Democrats" ruled for most the the last half century, kept taxes low AND kept Universal healthcare running AND kept a very large standing army.)
The funny thing is that in the United States, Liberal and Conservative are seen as mutually exclusive words. The problem there is that these words are not polar opposites, unless you're talking strictly liberal or conservative numbers (liberal discounts or a conservative estimate on your car loan for example). Currently the majority of so called Conservatives in the United States will support the radical changes constantly made to the country while the party they support is doing the abuse. I don't fit into what the simpleton media likes to call left and right, because the world does not operate on black and white and their attempts to dumb down the public are just sickening. The "Liberal Media" is certainly not so, each company in the media is beholden to its parent company and its corporatist interests. They are the same as Fox, competing for viewers for money, not caring about real truth and going for outrage and manufactured scandal.
There are a million ways to define the word Liberal, and everybody on the planet actually fits into one of them. I mean, free market economies are generally considered liberal. The so called Conservatives of the West support Liberal Islam s opposed to Conservative, or Fundamentalist Islam (though of course, said people's media choices tend to say their opponents support "Radical" Islam for supporting the exact same people they worked with). The actual meaning of Conservative in a political sense is to preserve things as they were, or make gradual subtle changes. Once again, with the many types of conservative out there, every person on the planet is also a conservative. You don't have to be a "Conservative" or a "Liberal" or some sort of scary amalgam that freaks the media types out to be patriotic either. I am sick of seeing politicians on all sides claiming that the other side is unpatriotic. It's not true. Everybody wants what's best for their country. Period.
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Eventually conservatives added patriotism and nationalism to the list of traditional values they support. German conservatives were the first to embrace nationalism, which was previously associated with liberalism and the Revolution in France.
Heck, by the broadest definition, the Founding Fathers of the United States were Liberals, implementing a radical new form of government. They cast of the Conservative foundations of the British Monarchy. For example, Thomas Paine's Common Sense was an indictment of the Monarchy. He'd also written many times on how the government was responsible for everybody's well being. ( “Rights of Man” vol 1 and 2, “Agrarian Justice” and “The Necessity of Taxation”) The Conservatives of the time instead fled to Canada.
But no, your country's current debt problem is stemmed by too many outside forces with their hands in the cookie jar. The fact that China for example owns most of it leads to the US ignoring the fact that Chinese currency is hugely undervalued, letting them mass produce goods, sell them to everybody for dirt cheap, improve their own country and put foreign industries out of business while not seeing an increase in their own currency's value (which would eventually balance it out). It's basically a bubble, like Japan's economy in the 80's but with no actual oversight to cause the pop. So when it does it will be much, much worse.
Then of course there are all of those companies that own the media, each wanting to keep their cuts of the pie.
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Question to all, why do people only look at the current president and not past ones in this country?
People are short sighted. They also like to play against the person currently in power even if they would normally support that person. In other cases however the blame will always go to the previous president for failures that are obviously caused by a current one if the people doing the whining are loyal to the current president.
This happens each time a President comes into office. Though yes, I always say to give somebody a year to actually do (or not do) some things before going on a rampage about how evil they are, party loyal people never listen.
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posted February 06, 2011 01:33 PM |
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Edited by moonlith at 13:44, 06 Feb 2011.
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I know part of the proposed Republican budget would complete eliminate my job if it went through. Not a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Dude, you're a lawyer. You have no soul; you can't experience warm fuzzy feelings period!
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I think I would do a better job at being president than Sarah Palin would, and I don't consider myself remotely qualified to be president.
She has no business being a governor, let alone a president. She's severely uneducated with statecraft and shows an overall lack of cognitive grace. Even if I agreed with all of her ideologies, I still think she'd be an inappropriate choice.
Apparently the state of Alaska disagreed with you. Who are you to disagree with an entire state?!
Although to be frank, I'm pretty certain the whole of Alaska is rolling on the floor laughing their asses off at their succesful trolling of the world by electing Palin.
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posted February 06, 2011 04:58 PM |
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While I am no expert in matters of finance, I pray that the republicans will save and heal the US from the socialist-liberal yoke. As a European, I know that a strong America is the only long-term guarantee of a strong and democratic western world.
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posted February 06, 2011 05:02 PM |
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That one Heroes related post isn't fooling anybody, you know. 
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bixie
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posted February 06, 2011 05:04 PM |
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While I am no expert in matters of finance, I pray that the republicans will save and heal the US from the socialist-liberal yoke. As a European, I know that a strong America is the only long-term guarantee of a strong and democratic western world.
no, a strong America means horrendous headaches for anyone who properly understands international politics.
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posted February 06, 2011 05:12 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 17:13, 06 Feb 2011.
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For heaven's sakes don't feed the-
*notices LotN's post in the War thread*
Oh God he's spreading... Maybe it's still not too late, make fun of him now and there may still be hope!
The OSM would not survive another Elodin...
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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 06, 2011 05:17 PM |
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For heaven's sakes don't feed the-
*notices LotN's post in the War thread*
Oh God he's spreading... Maybe it's still not too late, make fun of him now and there may still be hope!
The OSM would not survive another Elodin...
I am no troll. Don't troll yourself, please.
As for the US, as long as there are powers in the world who are working against freedom and democracy, we need a superpower upholding and protecting these ideals, and the western judeo-christian view of man as being with natural rights.
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posted February 06, 2011 05:26 PM |
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I have no problems with trolls in general, the thing is that we still have an identical one and I'm tired of the God save America kind already.
What we need is a Muslim fanatic. Or a Chinese loyalist. Hell, even a hardcore Russian or South African racist would suffice. This is just meh.
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