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The shooter's favorite writings are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kamph.

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Let it be noted that the Republicans control the majority of talk radio and cable TV shows that try outdo each other. The GOP controls talk radio. From Dr. Laura to Limbaugh to Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, Savage and the rest. As for cable TV shows that try to outdo each other, CNN doesn't even try to do shows like that, MSNBC is new to the game (and in any case, shows left and right), whereas FOX News has given the GOP an entire network all to itself and has been broadcasting vitriol, with incendiary hosts and guests, for 15 years. There is no equivalence. And finally, the town halls. Who has been using angry mobs to disrupt town halls in a manner that is one hair away from violent? Republicans. Not Democrats, but Republicans.

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The shooter's favorite writings are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kamph.

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Why the heck do we have to be talking about Nazis on page 2 of a thread about a US Congressman being shot??  Who the heck brought Hitler into this?

*looks back over thread*

Oh, yeah, right.  Big surprise.

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Jewish Congresswoman...

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You aren't 'merely' pointing out anything Elodin.  Isn't there some commandment against lying?  Christ, you've already broken the 9th one time and again when it comes to our president.

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As for somehow tying eugenics with modern progressivism, been watching Glenn Beck much?  While we're at it, let's talk about some other widely discredited disciplines.

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Let's start with Young Earth Creationism and Intelligent Design.

But that smackdown's for another thread.

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As for what happened over the weekend, quit being such a freaking sounding board for your far right talking heads and ask if what they're doing actually contributes in a healthy way to the national dialogue.

Edit:  Doctor Krugman speaks

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Left-wing New York Times columnist and economist Paul Krugman is exploiting the tragic shooting in Arizona Saturday, which claimed six lives, including the lives of a federal district court judge and a 9 year-old girl, and which critically wounded Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. In a disgraceful op-ed column today entitled “Climate of Hate,” Krugman pinned the blame for the shooting on the Right.

Krugman’s discredited spend-and-borrow economics are bad enough. But his attempt to pin the senseless acts of a deranged young man on conservative politicians and political commentators is libelous. It is an obvious attempt to squelch free speech in America by justifing what Krugman has long advocated:

a return of the Fairness Doctrine to the media.

In his op-ed piece today, Krugman makes only a fleeting reference to the mental state of the alleged shooter, Jared Lee Loughner. Krugman skips over entirely Loughner’s apparent three-year obsession with Representative Giffords since he first saw her at an event back in 2007 and his alleged plans to target her. Krugman also leaves out Loughner’s alleged drug problem, his rejection by the Army and his suspension from community college for acts that appeared to evidence a severe mental disorder.

Instead of acknowledging the fact that deranged assassins are sadly nothing new in American history, Krugman blames “the national climate” today fed by what he calls “eliminationist rhetoric” of “the purveyors of hate” on the Right.  He includes in his blameworthy category Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and Fox News in general.

For someone who prides himself on relying upon empirical evidence, Krugman displays his true ideological zealotry with such an unsubstantiated accusation. Where, for example, in Krugman’s column is any acknowledgment that Loughner, whose favorite reading matter included The Communist Manifesto as well as Mein Kampf, was described by a former classmate as “left wing?”

More importantly, how do the following quotes from President Barack Obama himself and his supporters on the Left fit in with Krugman’s theory that the “toxic rhetoric” is “coming, overwhelmingly, from the right”?

if they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun  (President Obama)
We’re gonna punish our enemies ( President Obama)

My two favorite philosophers are Mao Tse-Tung and Mother Teresa…In 1947, when Mao Zedong was being challenged within his own party on his plan to basically take China over. Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalist Chinese held the cities, they had the army, they had the air force, they had everything on their side. And people said, “How can you win? How can you do this? How can you do this, against all of the odds against you?” And Mao Zedong said, you know, “You fight your war, and I’ll fight mine.”  (Former Obama Communications Director, Anita Dunn during a high school graduation speech)

[W]e prefer to use the power of persuasion, but if that doesn’t work we use the persuasion of power ( Andy Stern, former president of SEIU)

Dick Cheney’s heart’s a political football. We ought to rip it out and kick it around and stuff it back in him. ( Ed Schultz, host of “The Ed Show” on MSNBC)

Obama’s critics keep blasting him for Chicago-style politics. So, fine.Channel your inner Al Capone and go gangsta against your foes. Let ‘em know that if they aren’t with you, they are against you, and will pay the price. (CNN columnist Roland Martin)

You’ve given it your best shot, you’ve tried numerous times to talk with the Republicans, to negotiate, to meet them halfway on every single matter before the American people. But they hate you for many reasons. It’s time you break kneecaps (bold in original)  ( Huffington Post columnist David Bourgeois , “Obama Better Start Breaking Kneecaps”)

a map, included in a Democratic Leadership Committee publication in 2004, featured nine bullseyes over regions where Republican candidates were considered vulnerable that year, and was accompanied by a caption reading: TARGETING STRATEGY. A smaller caption, beneath the bullseyes, read: BEHIND ENEMY LINES. The map illustrated an article on campaign strategy by Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute.

And how about Democratic Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), who literally shot through the health care bill with a rifle during his political campaign?

Make no mistake about what Krugman and his pals on the Left are trying to do. They are setting up the argument for more government regulation of the Internet and the need to bring back the so-called Fairness Doctrine. They cannot compete with conservatives in the marketplace of ideas, so Krugman and company want to go back to the good old days when

The “fairness doctrine” forced broadcast media to give comparable representation to opposing points of view.

Only then can the Left achieve its goal of suppressing free speech which disagrees with its ideological agenda.

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So you're calling a Nobel Prize winner in Economics a leftwing hate-monger?

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Far right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. The terms are often used to imply that someone is an extremist. The terms have been used by different scholars in somewhat conflicting ways.[1]

Far right politics usually involve supremacism — a belief that superiority and inferiority is an innate reality between individuals and groups — and a complete rejection of the concept of social equality as a norm.[2] Far right politics often support segregation; the separation of groups deemed to be superior from groups deemed to be inferior.[3] Far right politics also commonly include authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[4]

The ideologies usually associated with the far right include fascism, Nazism and other ultra-nationalist, religiously extreme or reactionary ideologies

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One thing is clear: THE KILLER IS INSANE!

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I have to say that I can't suppress a warm feeling that I'm in perfect agreement with a guy like Jon Stewart.

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You don't like the politicians?  Get like minded people together and get the OUT of office.  Put your own people in.  I can hear it now.  "BUT ITS TOOOO HARRRRDDDDD!" That is why nothing is done about it, people prefer to whine then do something about it.

Change is NEVER easy.  It has to be WORKED at, but people want it right now!  Instant gratification.  Blah, I am so disappointed in this thread

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