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JollyJoker
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posted March 31, 2011 06:03 PM |
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Actually they have no idea what is happening in 4 reactor blocks. They can't get to it; they can't open it. If that's IN control, I wonder what out of control is.
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Fauch
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posted March 31, 2011 06:16 PM |
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I thought that anti-radiation suits existed.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 31, 2011 07:41 PM |
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The problem isn't getting in, but avoiding that too much is getting out.
So first the water has to be cleared. And then it's still the question what will leak.
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posted March 31, 2011 10:55 PM |
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pretty much all the time since radiation is leaking from the plant.
or maybe you consider that it is under control? 
A dictionarial disagreement then.
If you know what direction something is heading, and you still have roughly "control" over it, the situation is under control.
Now, if we knew this was going to blow, and there is nothing to do with it, the situation would be out of control.
The situation is more or less "sort of shabby", but they still know where it could be heading and they still got a large arm there to control it.
Related: We apparently got the first "worrisome" news http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/30/japan.nuclear.reactors/index.html?hpt=T2
Some seawater had roughly 4,5 thousend times the "regular" amount of I-131, but since Japan is more or less a dry rock I think it would qualify for.... perhaps 4 or 5 times the "normal" level for some other areas in the world?
I-131 has a halflife of 8 days, which means whatever is leaked will roughly be gone in a month too.
I guess drinking the water will be hazardous with such a short halflife, but on the other hand it is seawater. The natural life might see some, but then again some radiation to change some genes could be healthy in the long run.
On the sideline Greenpeace is fearmongering too. Yippy!
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posted March 31, 2011 11:10 PM |
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"Worrisome news?" "If you know what direction something is heading, and you still have roughly "control" over it, the situation is under control?"
They are long on meltdown, and not just in ONE reactor core.
They control nothing, they can't even bring the glue in.
But, hey, dream on. No problem. All nice and well, everything peachy. This is really a fine technology, cheap and safe, yep.
Let's see, how the situation will be in another week's time.
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posted March 31, 2011 11:23 PM |
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If it "blows", 20-30 km radius becomes like Chernobyl, and the seawater in the area get majorly contaminated, Fallout all the way over China and Australia and New Zealand.
Sure, then I think "it was really really out of control" in a retrospective.
We have a 40 year old nuclear plant running unsafe tech, corruption running around inside the plant, getting it hit by both a 9 ritcher and and the following Tsunami, all 3 failsafes failing, and the snow is still standing.
There is no dangerous nuclear fallout yet, no mushroom cloud, no steam explosion exposing the core directly to the sky, the most "dangerous" measurements have been concentrated hotspots which lasted a day or 2, and Tokyo drinking water was unsafe if consumed by newborns 4-5 times a day.
Say what you want, but unless this turns into another Chernobyl, this is bloody safe.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 31, 2011 11:47 PM |
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As I said, let's just wait and see.
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posted April 01, 2011 05:33 AM |
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What the hell? Has this thread's title had a typo this entire time? Why do I notice it just now after being inebriated?
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Elodin
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posted April 01, 2011 07:03 AM |
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Fauch
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posted April 02, 2011 10:37 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 10:37, 02 Apr 2011.
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there was a coverage about NPPs in france, where they interviewed the most modest employees of several NPPs about their work conditions.
they are cutting down the number of employees and hiring unspecialized staff when there is extra-work because it is less expensive.
NPPs are barely maintened, because it costs too much money. if you see a problem and try to point it out, they just lay you off.
well, unless maybe it is very critical. but as long as no plant blows up, they see no problems in accidents happening, provided that they can hide them from the population.
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posted April 02, 2011 01:13 PM |
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The fun part is that coal contains small amounts of radioactive stuff. Uranium for instance. It's really small, statistically (iirc 1gram per ton. Might be wrong here, quoting from memory). But when you add up the coal consumption of, say, Poland (which is iirc about 100 million tons of coal per year), you get 100 tons of uranium released to atmosphere annually . And how much waste in tons does a nuclear plant produce - per year? Anyone knows? Is it any better/worse?
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Fauch
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posted April 09, 2011 11:12 PM |
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I hear there is a meltdown in fukushima?
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