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heroes_player
heroes_player


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posted June 08, 2011 01:54 PM
Edited by heroes_player at 12:38, 13 Jun 2011.

[H3] The Lone Knight

Hi guys and ladies..!

After I completed the map named "Gold Heart", I decided to download another map

Right now I am playing a map called "The Lone Knight" and I am doing very well. I am playing with conflux and my main hero is "Fiur" which I hired on day 1...

On the 2nd month I took all castles which were near a green two-way-monolith. Also on 2nd month, I have taken two Tan-comp's castles and Blue-comp's few castles (Blue-com's main hero is defeated also).

I have also won many big battles without many losses (I had horde of phoenixes, expert town portal, ressu and much mana ). I defeated Xeron's big army (over 50 ADs, 120 efreet sultans etc..) and I lost only 18 dread knights and 150 pixies. That was my the biggest loss so I think I am doing very well at the moment.

But now I have a very annoying problem!! Just look at this image:



There is a hero named Octavia (Pink-comp). If I end my turn, the Pink-comp's Octavia goes underground then she comes back.. Again underground, back, underground, back, underground, back ETC...... And that never ends!! I used alt+tabs, restarted computer and then I switched game's options that I won't see enemy's moves anymore, but it does not help!!

I waited for 5 minutes, but still she did like that! This is very annoying! Could someone give any advices that what should I do? I hope you understood this problem! All is going well but then this problem came out!!

Edit: I have no problem anymore I just ended my turn, went watch a TV for half hour and then I came back... Pink has ended his turn

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heroes_player
heroes_player


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posted June 13, 2011 12:55 PM
Edited by heroes_player at 13:54, 15 Jun 2011.

EDIT: I have defeated Erdian (without losses ), but now I am very stuck! There is the king of Shashara and I can't defeat him ... I used forgetfullness to elimate shooting effects.. But titans are immune to that spell and when it is their turn, the king cast clone on titans and they both shoot my troops 100% death... They make so much damages that even 400 phoenixes will be dead

His troops are immune to berserk and I am not able to attack his titans first ground (armor of damned..) and even if I attack them, they can shoot anyways because of sharpshooter's bow -artefact... please help me, because now I have extremely big panic

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Maciek
Maciek


Known Hero
posted June 15, 2011 07:41 PM

Hi heroes_player!
1.Can a newly hired hero reach that enemy in 1 turn?
If yes,
 then you can attack him with new heroes(should they bring phoenixes with them? or maybe wraiths would've done better?) until he runs out of mana,
 else 7 low level secondary heroes with expert forgetfulness should still do quite well at destroying his mana.
2.Don't bring too much troops with you, when your main attacks him. A powerstack and 6x1 phoenix will probably do(maybe change 1 of th phoenixes to a big fodder stack in case you wanted to use sacrifice on your powerstack).
3.If you have the catapult skill,
  then skip this point,
  else hope that your catapult doesn't destroy the wall on turn 1 and destroy it with spells on turn 2.
4.Forgetfulness on turn 1 seems like a good move. Don't forget to block the gate.
5.You can summon elementals until titans run out of shots and enemy runs out of mana(if any), then resurrect your army and destroy the enemy army.
6.Benbird's walkthroughs of 'Way home' and 'Wayfarer' on CH are full of usefull tricks.

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heroes_player
heroes_player


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posted June 15, 2011 08:50 PM
Edited by heroes_player at 21:15, 15 Jun 2011.

Quote:
Hi heroes_player!
1.Can a newly hired hero reach that enemy in 1 turn?
If yes,
 then you can attack him with new heroes(should they bring phoenixes with them? or maybe wraiths would've done better?) until he runs out of mana,
 else 7 low level secondary heroes with expert forgetfulness should still do quite well at destroying his mana.
2.Don't bring too much troops with you, when your main attacks him. A powerstack and 6x1 phoenix will probably do(maybe change 1 of th phoenixes to a big fodder stack in case you wanted to use sacrifice on your powerstack).
3.If you have the catapult skill,
  then skip this point,
  else hope that your catapult doesn't destroy the wall on turn 1 and destroy it with spells on turn 2.
4.Forgetfulness on turn 1 seems like a good move. Don't forget to block the gate.
5.You can summon elementals until titans run out of shots and enemy runs out of mana(if any), then resurrect your army and destroy the enemy army.
6.Benbird's walkthroughs of 'Way home' and 'Wayfarer' on CH are full of usefull tricks.


Well some heroes are able to reach that town in one turn but if try to eliminate his manas, he will gain them back in a turn because he sits in a town

I do not think bringing only phownixes is a good idea because the main stack will be dead in the first round (he clones his titans.. First titan shoot the main stack, the mainstack will rebirth and after that, clone will finish off )

Also one thing will make this harder: he has armor of damned.. I have also, but it does not help much.. My biggest shooter stack is 2k sharpshooters, they will kill about 40-60 titans per shot. But after that, titans will eliminate them... And my biggest fighter stack is 400 phoenixes, but they only kill about 50-60 per hit.

I will post some pics and hope they will help..



Main hero before the battle..


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The first ground. He has armor of damned so some of my troops are slowed etc.. I have nearly all spells (expect fly and dimension door ofc.)
His primary skills: 79/80/70/73
Spell points: 880/730

In the first ground forgetfullness is maybe the most important spell. But his titans are too strong and they make so much dmg.. He usually casts clone or prayer first turn. Btw, a very good thing is, that he has not magic resistace at all! So his troops are blindable (expect titans..) But berserks does not work on the troops.

And he has also bow of sharshooters So blocking titans is useless..

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Maciek
Maciek


Known Hero
posted June 15, 2011 09:40 PM

Quote:
Well some heroes are able to reach that town in one turn but if try to eliminate his manas, he will gain them back in a turn because he sits in a town

Sorry if it wasn't clear enough: everything I wrote in the previous post should happen in 1 turn. If a level 1 hero can't reach this castle in 1 turn, dissmiss him! And don't forget to give your new recruits only swamp creatures when they leave castle and maybe change for something else at the end of the swamp. It will cost quite a lot, but if you have some 3000 wood, then I guess that gold won't be a problem. Even without those level 1 heroes, with blind and summon elementals you might survive until the point when enemy has no mana and titans have no shots. Then you have practically won.
Sharpshooters or archdevils look like the best choice for a powerstack. As for phoenixes: don't bring them all, just 5-6 stacks of 1(or 5? anyways, enough for rebirth to work at all) will do.
It is OK if your powerstack is wiped out on turn 1. You can resurrect it later, when titans have no shots and enemy has no mana.

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heroes_player
heroes_player


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posted June 15, 2011 09:57 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Well some heroes are able to reach that town in one turn but if try to eliminate his manas, he will gain them back in a turn because he sits in a town

Sorry if it wasn't clear enough: everything I wrote in the previous post should happen in 1 turn. If a level 1 hero can't reach this castle in 1 turn, dissmiss him! And don't forget to give your new recruits only swamp creatures when they leave castle and maybe change for something else at the end of the swamp. It will cost quite a lot, but if you have some 3000 wood, then I guess that gold won't be a problem. Even without those level 1 heroes, with blind and summon elementals you might survive until the point when enemy has no mana and titans have no shots. Then you have practically won.
Sharpshooters or archdevils look like the best choice for a powerstack. As for phoenixes: don't bring them all, just 5-6 stacks of 1(or 5? anyways, enough for rebirth to work at all) will do.
It is OK if your powerstack is wiped out on turn 1. You can resurrect it later, when titans have no shots and enemy has no mana.


the scouting thing does not work because at the start of the battle, the armor of damned slows my phoenixes... And wraiths die easily because of town shooters and shooters

I think surviving until his shots or manas run out is impossible.. What if his troops walk out ? Casting one elemental in a turn and his 7 stacks will easily kill all my troops and the battle will end...

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Maciek
Maciek


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posted June 15, 2011 10:22 PM

Quote:
What if his troops walk out ?

That's why you should block the gate on turn 1 and destroy your own catapult with meteor shower or something similar on turn 2. If there is a dead stack right in front of the gate, it can't be opened.

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heroes_player
heroes_player


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posted June 16, 2011 10:07 AM

Looks like those stupid catapults always break the wall in the second turn.. but I will keep trying but I think that cloned titans are problems. But lets see, maybe he will not always use clones..

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 16, 2011 12:40 PM

From the screen, it looks like the titans are your problem, the others being easy handed with forgetfulness. As you also have the armor of the damned and 50% resistance, you could reload until the sharps are not slowed and go for titans. From then, get rid of catapult, block the gate and wait for his spell points to end. But if he has cure also you can't win it. Can you upload the save?
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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 05:55 PM

Quote:
From the screen, it looks like the titans are your problem, the others being easy handed with forgetfulness. As you also have the armor of the damned and 50% resistance, you could reload until the sharps are not slowed and go for titans. From then, get rid of catapult, block the gate and wait for his spell points to end. But if he has cure also you can't win it. Can you upload the save?


Well even if I shoot and hit titans in the first round, there will be about 350 titans left. And they are enough to kill my sharshooters in a turn...
I has tried with archs, sharpshooters and 5x67 phoenixes, but it does not work... He casts clone so he will kill 2 units in a round and I can summon only one elemental... I have also noticed that those enchanters should blind soon as possible, because when they cast cure, I'm dead
I checked an editor and noticed that king's speciality is archery (orrin) and he has 5 million exp. points... I'm doomed
I will send you guys the save but first I have to know, HOW?
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Maciek
Maciek


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 06:17 PM

Quote:
I will send you guys the save but first I have to know, HOW?

Read this.

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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 06:38 PM

Quote:
Quote:
I will send you guys the save but first I have to know, HOW?

Read this.


I need to upload the save to mediafire, but where can I find that save from my files..

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Maciek
Maciek


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 06:44 PM

Quote:
I need to upload the save to mediafire, but where can I find that save from my files..

..in heroes3's directory, in 'games' folder.

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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 07:39 PM

Well.. I have that folder but.. it is empty ?

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angelito
angelito


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
posted June 16, 2011 08:18 PM

Killing Enchanters should be your first goal. They can ruin your whole fight.

Don't worry about titans killing your units. If enchanters are dead, gate is blocked, then you can concentrate on titans.

I would get rid of the sultans and rather take a single ghost dragon to have one more chance for aging and taking retaliation.
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Maciek
Maciek


Known Hero
posted June 16, 2011 09:23 PM

Quote:
Well.. I have that folder but.. it is empty ?

I have no idea why is that folder empty, but you could always try giving your save some unique name and then searching your 3do folder or even whole disk for it(remember, that the save file extension is .GM1).

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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2011 08:20 AM
Edited by heroes_player at 08:22, 17 Jun 2011.

Hi guys

Thank you for the help! But the 'simplest' solution was getting black orb (no magic resist at all!)
I checked the editor again and I was watching some seer huts.. One seer hut was hidden in a place where I did not see it.. The task was killing Thorgrim and I have done this already so the reward was mine

After this item was equipped, I won the fight!! (without losses ofc ) It was not even hard fight although the wall was broken and enemy's units went out (stupid catapults..).

But over 3000 spell points is a lot so I managed to blind all his troops then I resurrect, resurrect, resurrect... again blind (I had few spell powers ) then resurrect, resurrect... After this I cloned my phoenixes and sharshooters. Then I cast slow, prayer and bless... Easy finishing

After the battle I faced a dragonlord and that was a piece of cake (he has only 2100 gold dragons. Archdevils and sharpshooters were enough to kill him...)

Btw, I haven't ever known that black orb eliminates a resistance ability.. I have always thought that it only remove magic-immunity but looks like it also works with resistance (my all troops got slowed, cursed, weaknessed etc...) If you have this against Thorgrim, his speciality will be useless!


And now I am in the final battle! I have not figured how to win this fight but let me try it
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heroes_player
heroes_player


Known Hero
posted June 20, 2011 04:25 PM
Edited by heroes_player at 16:32, 20 Jun 2011.

Done it!

I won the final battle and claimed a victory

First at all, at the beginning the fight looked like impossible because his troops did not take so much damage (I guess her bad hero had armorer specialty). I noticed that she had not the shackles so I decided to recruit so much troops as possible and attack her (I tried to use skeleton transformes for hydras etc. to get more ghost dragons but... in this map skeleton transformers are impossible to build.
At first I thought that I will win this fight with hit-and-run (surrender, build again main hero, attack her etc.) howerer...

I used cape of velocity (+2 speed), angelic alliance (+3 speed) and haste (more speed!) so my shooters (sharps, enchanters) even got the turn before her azure dragons. The shooters deal most dmg compared my other troops.

Well, the first round went well so I decided to keep going (he did not attack my shooters and ghost dragons aged crystal dragons ... Then at the second round she did not even touch my shooters yet and my ghost dragons aged her azures!! I have to admit that ghost dragon's special effect is very usefull.. this crature aged three times in this battle before it was fallen.. maybe I won because of this creature...
At the 5th round the victory was clear..



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About 600 enchanters, 200 phoenixes and 300 efreets survived
This was the battle where I got the biggest casualties. (my biggest casualties before this fight was about 300 lizard warriors, 30 efreets etc..). But who cares ? This was the final battle so it does not matter

I finished the map in 153 days, score was 494 (arch angels)

Now I have to choose which map I play now.. "Sander's folly" and "Where the beauty"
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angelito
angelito


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proud father of a princess
posted June 20, 2011 04:54 PM
Edited by angelito at 16:54, 20 Jun 2011.

"Unleashing the Bloodthirsty" or "Vengeance is mine"
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Warmonger
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posted June 20, 2011 05:00 PM

I need to try this map! Feels fresh with these Lizard Warriors and Ghost Dragons line-up
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