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Kitten
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posted July 11, 2011 03:37 PM |
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Edited by Kitten at 15:39, 11 Jul 2011.
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In the Prologue Campaign, did anyone else end up doing the second map of that one before the first?
When I started it, it defaulted to The Emperor's Will instead of Griffin Bane and I didn't even notice there were numbers for them so I started the 2nd map. Hell, now that I think of it, the 2nd map should have been locked until I finished Griffin Bane.
Yes for some reason you start the 2nd one first and after that you can select the first mission  After finishing that one it says if you want to continue to the next map but you have already cleared it...so I said no and started the Sanctuary one. Hopefully they fix this in the retail game. It also says "Tide Warrior" instead of "Kenshi" when you first meet one in the underground area.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 11, 2011 03:41 PM |
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Err, Griffin Bane is a TUTORIAL, albeit a rather advanced one.
But nonetheless a tutorial (only).
Playing the tutorial is completely voluntary.
However, playing the Prologue is mandatory - you can play the campaigns only after that, albeit in any order you like, even though there is a suggested order for the sake of the general story.
One u have completed all campaigns you will... err. I don't know whether it's save to say, so I in'll better keep quiet.
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Kitten
Known Hero
Roar
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posted July 11, 2011 04:04 PM |
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Edited by Kitten at 16:04, 11 Jul 2011.
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Err, Griffin Bane is a TUTORIAL, albeit a rather advanced one.
But nonetheless a tutorial (only).
Playing the tutorial is completely voluntary.
However, playing the Prologue is mandatory - you can play the campaigns only after that, albeit in any order you like, even though there is a suggested order for the sake of the general story.
One u have completed all campaigns you will... err. I don't know whether it's save to say, so I in'll better keep quiet.
Nope, I have just checked and both of them are tutorial campaigns. You must play The Empire's Will first before you can select Griffin Bane(which should be the first one) Griffin Bane teaches you the very basic of gameplay while The Empire´s will teaches you a bit more advance things, and is also much harder and much longer than Griffin Bane. Not to mention the beta walkthrough says the same.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 11, 2011 04:14 PM |
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Nope, I have just checked and both of them are tutorial campaigns. You must play The Empire's Will first before you can select Griffin Bane(which should be the first one)
Nope, you can play Griffin Bane first without playing the Emperor's Will.
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Kitten
Known Hero
Roar
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posted July 11, 2011 04:21 PM |
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Nope, I have just checked and both of them are tutorial campaigns. You must play The Empire's Will first before you can select Griffin Bane(which should be the first one)
Nope, you can play Griffin Bane first without playing the Emperor's Will.
Nuh-uh! Not when you get into the game for the very first time. But after you have completed The Emperor's Will you are free to select both.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 11, 2011 04:23 PM |
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Huh?
You can play everything in the beta as you like - there are no prerequisites at all. Default is on Emperor's will.
Griffin Bane is simply a standalone tutorial map for the whole game that introduces all game elements. You may play it or not.
Emperor's Will, however, is indeed a Prologue to what happens in the campaigns and mandatory.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted July 11, 2011 04:27 PM |
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Nuh-uh! Not when you get into the game for the very first time. But after you have completed The Emperor's Will you are free to select both.
Yes you can. Click the arrows.
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Kitten
Known Hero
Roar
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posted July 11, 2011 04:28 PM |
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Ok I don't care anymore  You two can discuss this with Kingimp if you like but I'm leaving this thing now.
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted July 11, 2011 05:08 PM |
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The point is, storyline-wise, Griffin Bane takes place before The Emperor's Will and also contains the tutorial. Thus, Griffin Bane should be the default as starting first.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
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posted July 11, 2011 05:24 PM |
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Is it normal that when playing Griffin Bane oyu're hearing homm5 music?
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Zenofex
Responsible
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Kreegan-atheist
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posted July 11, 2011 07:53 PM |
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You are hearing a modified version of the Heroes V grass theme which - I suppose - is campaign-exclusive.
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Mitzah
Promising
Supreme Hero
of the Horadrim
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posted July 13, 2011 06:48 PM |
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Come on, more than two weeks have passed and just one so called patch? How the hell are we supposed to test the game's ballance if things go this slow?
It was f**ked up from the beginning by allowing only hotseat multiplayer.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted July 13, 2011 07:08 PM |
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There are some clues that there might be no patch or at least nothing addressing the balance issues. Whatever the case is, they certainly don't look interested in supporting the beta, so I wouldn't set my hopes high.
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted July 14, 2011 05:58 AM |
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I wouldn't hold my breath on any patches. Wasn't this only supposed to run for 3 weeks? Well that means this will probably stop working next Tuesday or Wednesday.
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Priest
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 14, 2011 11:11 PM |
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Firstly - thanks for the last anserws. Elvin - I have found shooters and after playing a bit more, creature's abilities looks more interesting 
What do you think about magic? I was casting ice bolt with spell power about 8 and the damage was laughable. Classic "hand" hit is much much stornger.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 14, 2011 11:16 PM |
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Yeah icebolt is the most useless spell in terms of damage. Firebolt at least does more damage than the hero's direct attack but either way the values are off. Will be fixed no doubt.
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pacifist
Famous Hero
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posted July 14, 2011 11:20 PM |
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Icebolt seems to me a tactical spell not a damage one. It freezes the target for one turn like the water elemental does. It can be interesting just for that  .
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 14, 2011 11:22 PM |
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Which is how I use it at the moment but I doubt that the damage being so low is intentional.
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KingImp
Famous Hero
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posted July 15, 2011 04:38 AM |
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I don't know if this was brought up in the last 25 pages, so I'll ask.
Is there a reason why the Griffin/Imperial Griffin's Diving Assault does so little damage? Right now that ability is a joke. It doesn't kill anything.
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odium
Known Hero
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posted July 15, 2011 08:01 AM |
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Edited by odium at 08:02, 15 Jul 2011.
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I believe it is a bug with the computation of the damage when performing the dive. While in description it says the two amounts should be equal the normal attack damage is way higher.
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