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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 29, 2012 05:50 AM |
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1) If you disable week of, you will get plagues if description is correct. However, plagues are disliked by a majority of players.
2) Era is not changing WoG scripts, they are same + bug fixes following players reports. As far as I know, treasure chest is still giving choice-there are two distinct scripts acting a bit different, you can disable one or another-.
3) There is no complete wog manual because people focused first on Erm manual, being far more important at that time.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 06:08 AM |
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Edited by artu at 06:16, 29 Aug 2012.
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Quote: 1) If you disable week of, you will get plagues if description is correct. However, plagues are disliked by a majority of players.
2) Era is not changing WoG scripts, they are same + bug fixes following players reports. As far as I know, treasure chest is still giving choice-there are two distinct scripts acting a bit different, you can disable one or another-.
1- Week of description is incorrect, i've asked about this about two years ago, as far as i know, nobody ever witnessed plague on wog. And yes, it is really annoying most of the time, but it is a challenge and it's a feature of the game and wog should enhance the game, not the other way around.
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=33829
2- the wog chest used to have three diferrent effects
a)flag a mine (still the same)
b)give expert secondary skill in a week (now gives it after a day passes)
c)give primary skill OR resource (now gives both)
the change in b is not much, but when we come to c, i liked the optional chest because it required tactical thinking, will i need the +2 knowledge or should i take the cyrstals and upgrade my dragons and so on...
i'm definitely sure the chest scripts changed. maybe it's one of the mods but i only have yona and new objects patch active.
Edit: Tested it, it's not yona.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 29, 2012 06:54 AM |
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You are right, I checked and script was modified by JimV to give both resource and skill, I agree it was more strategical before.
Plague: if week of is disabled, there is nothing to prevent plague unless it is hardcoded and I am not aware of. Anyway, I don't think many will complain, the plague is a game killer for custom maps, and WoG is mainly for custom maps and mods, not random maps where it becomes crazily unbalanced and buggy.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 03:12 PM |
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plague month.bin
Put in Mods\YourMod or WoG\EraPlugins\AfterWoG
The patch disables UN:M command and returns default Heroes 3 month handling.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 04:09 PM |
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Edited by artu at 16:10, 29 Aug 2012.
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Thanks, this way it also has an on/off switch in the plugins manager. Sadly, i tried this on a test map, i waited for 9 months sometimes reloading week 4 day 7's. No plague and every week is either week of the hornet or week that gives familiar growth +5. (inferno grail effect?)
week of monsters option was turned off. (with this patch, that will still disable plague month as described right?)
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 04:59 PM |
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 05:33 PM |
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Quote: Ok. Delete the old patch and try this one: sod weeks and months.bin
first, it did the same thing but i noticed the game was only acting as if there was an inferno grail in the test map although it didnt even have an inferno. so i figured out there was something wrong with the map, created a new test map, i used the first bin file you uploaded again and bingo month eleven was month of the plague.
so, your first bin file actually solves the problem. plague month can now be turned on/off under plugins manager.thanks a lot. sorry about the first test, i dont know what was wrong with the map.
i guess week of monsters script still disables it but now the description is finally correct: no plague month only if you turn this script on (and of course plague month.bin under plugin manager)
Great work. Thanks a lot.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 29, 2012 05:45 PM |
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The only way to disable it is to turn it off. Should be noted that this patch will screw almost all custom maps or mods if activated, as it overwrites the instructions.
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 05:50 PM |
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Not "will" but "might" screw ))
artu, please unpack this in the game folder: artu.rar.
Turn on Yona's battle log hint and try it in your save game.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 06:11 PM |
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Quote: The only way to disable it is to turn it off.
Do you mean "week of monsters" in wog options no longer prevents plague? i activated it and it seems to work fine.
bersy here's screenshots and the save files:
http://www.filedropper.com/test_15
it's now "0 (-1)battle log info"
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 06:33 PM |
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Edited by Bersy at 18:50, 29 Aug 2012.
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artu, thanks, you need to enter battle options and set Creature Info => All statistics. Otherwise game does not calculate damage at all. I just cannot imagine how you play without damage display.
EDIT. I fill fix Yona and Era, but you won't see valuable hints if game statistics is off.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 06:48 PM |
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Quote: artu, thanks, you need to enter battle options and set Creature Info => All statistics. Otherwise game does not calculate damage at all. I just cannot imagine how you play without damage display.
well, after a while you can guess who will hit what. i keep that off because i dont like the little windows that pop up every time i hover over a creature. But i guess it's either that, or turning OverrideBattleLogHint off from yona settings or playing with "0 (0)" display. Thanks for your time.
Should i replace my files with the original backed up stuff or am i fine with these latest downloads?
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 06:52 PM |
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Some of the files are from unreleased Era 2.4. You may restore old files. When 2.4 is released, there will be no more problems with 0 (0).
Thank you very much for help
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted August 29, 2012 07:07 PM |
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About Era 2.4 I would say-Enjoy your work,Bersy!
I will enjoy the result!
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 07:15 PM |
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Thanks, master, you are the first one to support different projects
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted August 29, 2012 07:35 PM |
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And the different projects are...?
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"I heard the latest HD version disables playing Heroes. Please reconsider."-Salamandre
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2012 07:38 PM |
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Works by Valery, HoL, JimV...
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted August 29, 2012 08:10 PM |
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Quote:
EDIT. I fill fix Yona and Era, but you won't see valuable hints if game statistics is off.
well maybe a bin file can be added to the plugin manager enabling the statistics to display yet disabling the little creature windows that pop up. they are really distractive.
another idea is a button to save your random map settings. for example i often play a large random map with seven players, with a rampart (me), tower, two castles, dungeon, necropolis and elemental conflux with everybody's starting bonus as artifacts. it would be very practical to be able to save that setting like we are able to save our wog settings.
of course i know nothing about coding and when i suggest these things i have no idea how hard or easy they are to produce. so excuse me if i'm flying high.
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WillyTheSquid
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 30, 2012 04:05 PM |
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Map editor is crashing... fatal run-time error: assert violation in D:\programming\Delphi\source\SRC\Units\_Older_\mapext.pas on line 404
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Bersy
Honorable
Supreme Hero
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posted August 30, 2012 05:52 PM |
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