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Simpelicity
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posted December 22, 2012 04:43 AM |
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Simpel what do you think about our game?When can you do this?
i usually am available after 22.00(gmt +2)Lets do it quickly so people that aren't playing can join the next one.
I've no idea. Saturday is quite simply impossible, sunday might happen, if it doesn't, it'll be after Christmas.
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"You r the shakespeare of heroes vi, in every single battle i say: "he is gonna to loss"." - Cumulo88
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 22, 2012 06:07 PM |
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It took a long time, but the match between me and elvin are now up. It is spit into 2 parts, with part 1 me grabing artifacts then playing in a match until Elvin disconnected, part 2 is the actual match.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVSH0mtkSIg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixm1xT2Wu0k&feature=youtu.be
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 22, 2012 08:59 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 21:50, 22 Dec 2012.
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I just noticed you put two steps from hell in, a fine choice  They have excellent battle soundtracks, archangel album was brilliant.
Btw wouldn't it be more convenient if you only recorded the hero screen and only showed your artifact/abilities? It can take a while till your turn comes, you look through the arties and pick your skills.
Second video isn't so much worth watching unless you get a kick out of watching me enter retard mode  I will have to check whether it is possible to use active abilities with a puppeted creature, things would have looked much different if you had blinded my crusaders in the first one.
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Around 56 mins the music is so intense that it's hard to tell what you are saying. But damn I love this track.
As for the game itself I only started coming round sometime halfway towards the end. I knew that my only chance was to finish off the weaker units to get rid of gating which is why my angels attacked the lilim in the first place. I knew that the griffin dive would not be enough to kill the stack but it had to be done even if my angels got a bit hurt in the process. The elemental resummoning did not really affect the outcome, with the gated units out of the way all I needed was to attack the original pitlords with my hero directly. There was no way to kill my angels and marksmen in time, toughness III and martyr more than paid off. Btw there was a point where the pitlords could have attacked my marksmen, all the earth elementals had to do was move out of the way. Of course they wouldn't have done much damage and they would have gotten some retaliation..
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 22, 2012 11:42 PM |
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I have successfully used the blazing glories blind when they were puppeted against nikolas. He didn't think it could work either, but it did. That one trick almost won me the match against him
Also, i know the music got 'intense' about 40 minutes onwards, but really what happened was i moved my mike away from my mouth and got quieter. If i tried to make the music any quieter it sounded flat and horrible, so i had to leave that in.
Also, if you got an ad when watching that vidoe, it was purely because of the two steps from hell track. Youtube recognised it. Fortunatly because I admitted it was and that i wasn't using ads on any of my video's they didn't car,e but i think they might have added ads themselves, where i don't get any of the revenue.
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Simpelicity
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posted December 23, 2012 01:07 AM |
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I have successfully used the blazing glories blind when they were puppeted against nikolas. He didn't think it could work either, but it did. That one trick almost won me the match against him
Have you practiced with pancakes? He tried that against me as well. In fact, that's the first thing he did.
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 23, 2012 03:41 PM |
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No, he doesn't want to play duels against me for fear of getting beaten i think. However i do tell him pretty much all my strategies, so if he plays similar to me it's because of that
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PANCZASU
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posted December 24, 2012 01:32 AM |
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Edited by PANCZASU at 01:35, 24 Dec 2012.
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Also, i know the music got 'intense' about 40 minutes onwards, but really what happened was i moved my mike away from my mouth and got quieter. If i tried to make the music any quieter it sounded flat and horrible, so i had to leave that in.
In case anyone hasn't figured it out already - that's the excuse gameslayer keeps using 24/7. Everyone keeps saying that the music he uses gets too loud and there are difficulties understanding what he says, but he doesn't care since he's a bad caster ;P
As for the puppet master blazing glories thingy - out of the two of us, I was the first one to used this tactic ^_^ So it was him who copied me. And since I licensed this totally original tactic, he owes me some money for that. 200 pounds will be enough. I accept payment by check 
And I don't play duels vs gameslayer since I only enjoy games when there's challenge involved.... see what I did there?
BTW, have you solved your crashing problem Elvin? I'd love to fight you one day ^_^
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 24, 2012 09:09 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 09:32, 24 Dec 2012.
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It has one simple solution, turn on the pc on the time we have arranged If it stays on for a while bad things happen, that is why I could play gameslayer but not you. Just send me a message or post here when you can play.
And spare me the tactic licensing, I had been using that since the game came out I was merely uncertain if it worked in 1.8, not easy to remember what is broken and in which patch.
Looking forward to simpel's game, finals to follow!
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Simpelicity
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Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2012 03:46 PM |
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I would point you guys towards my duel with pancakes, but alas it is only half uploaded. The other half will come tomorrow. Ironically enough, I am finding it harder to produce videos during the holiday than during university. The entire duel wasn't rendered in time.
EDIT Well, now it's fully out here. Couple forewords : 1, sound gets desynched bad. This is getting to be a habit on this series, for some reason Fraps fails me utterly every time. Commentary gets desynched too though, which bums me greatly, because I didn't figure that one out either. Probably me failing. At least I hope. I don't need another problem adding up to freaking Fraps failure.
Secondly, you'll note in the commentary that I'm rather unenthusiastic about these duels. My mind changes throughout the duel (winning will do that to you), so my position is quite unclear at the end, so I'll clarify here : I'll finish this tournament, but it'll be my last, at least for a while. Why?
I wasted a ton of time being ready to duel someone who never showed up, and technical issues have arisen to which I have no solution (Fraps bein' a B****, my game freezing). Add to those frustrations that my LP started about a year ago, so I've been playing this game for about a year now. I need a break.
With that said, hopefully you can still enjoy the videos, and merry Christmas!
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"You r the shakespeare of heroes vi, in every single battle i say: "he is gonna to loss"." - Cumulo88
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 26, 2012 12:35 AM |
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I've heard that if you record commentary through fraps the codec can fail on longer video's, causing a desync in sound, so i suggest you record the sound seperatly in audacity and merge them together. Also, you have been kinda unlucky in the tournaments fighting opponents who never show, don't let it spoil your time playing
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Simpelicity
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posted December 26, 2012 05:41 AM |
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I've heard that if you record commentary through fraps the codec can fail on longer video's, causing a desync in sound, so i suggest you record the sound seperatly in audacity and merge them together. Also, you have been kinda unlucky in the tournaments fighting opponents who never show, don't let it spoil your time playing
Meh, That's one irritant, not the whole.
Been using Audacity since day one. That ain't it.
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"You r the shakespeare of heroes vi, in every single battle i say: "he is gonna to loss"." - Cumulo88
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 26, 2012 08:11 AM |
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I've checked your map and I am not interested. I consider it worse than classic duels where only blood magicians are good... here is my 2 cp if you wish to listen to my opinion.
1 : put hero at lvl 30. More skill points, more possible strategies.
2 : put a bigger army! I would suggest to just make it like normal duels, with 2 different armies... and about 3 or 4 times the "classic" quantity, instead of 10 times like "legion".
3 : no dynasty nothing.
Of course, if you wish to put more stuff like artifacts, you can. Just remember to increase the army a bit to compensate.
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Simpelicity
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posted December 26, 2012 04:39 PM |
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I've checked your map and I am not interested. I consider it worse than classic duels where only blood magicians are good... here is my 2 cp if you wish to listen to my opinion.
1 : put hero at lvl 30. More skill points, more possible strategies.
2 : put a bigger army! I would suggest to just make it like normal duels, with 2 different armies... and about 3 or 4 times the "classic" quantity, instead of 10 times like "legion".
3 : no dynasty nothing.
Of course, if you wish to put more stuff like artifacts, you can. Just remember to increase the army a bit to compensate.
This is actually calculated to be about what you'd get after a certain amount of weeks of normal play. Normal duels aren't. In fact, the hero is way too powerful for the army he has. And btw, "worse than classic duels where only blood magicians are good..."? And then your only complaint with it is not having enough stuff to play around with? Since when is having a giant army is more important than balance exactly? The balance is a work in progress on this map, but it's as balanced as can be. Moreover, aside from complicating the balance, giant armies add very little to a duel over smaller armies. It's mostly the same gig, longer.
Lastly, we don't play with dynasty weapons. Up to you not to do it either.
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"You r the shakespeare of heroes vi, in every single battle i say: "he is gonna to loss"." - Cumulo88
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KaynaCrous
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posted December 26, 2012 04:48 PM |
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naaaa dude. Blood mages are good in classic duels where as might blood, magic tears and might tears ( half the time ) are good in legion duels, meaning there are 2 1/2 more strategies to employ in legion duels.
It is not "mostly the same gig"
I was suggesting duels like the ones we have except with 2, 3 or 4 times the classic quantity to make is so all heroes, magic blood, magic tears, might blood and might tears ( half the time! ) are worth it, which seems like the best balance to me.
If the maker of this map ( no disrespect meant for the time invested in making it, thank you for making the said map ) wishes to add more stuff to try to make it more "realistic", he can, I just feel this is an impossible task and he should keep it simple imo.
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Simpelicity
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posted December 26, 2012 05:02 PM |
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naaaa dude. Blood mages are good in classic duels where as might blood, magic tears and might tears ( half the time ) are good in legion duels, meaning there are 2 1/2 more strategies to employ in legion duels.
It is not "mostly the same gig"
I was suggesting duels like the ones we have except with 2, 3 or 4 times the classic quantity to make is so all heroes, magic blood, magic tears, might blood and might tears ( half the time! ) are worth it, which seems like the best balance to me.
If the maker of this map ( no disrespect meant for the time invested in making it, thank you for making the said map ) wishes to add more stuff to try to make it more "realistic", he can, I just feel this is an impossible task and he should keep it simple imo.
All heroes can manage because as a whole heroes don't matter anymore the gianter the army gets. Making heroes more insignificant isn't a balance solution to me. And again, you should really try duels on it before judging its balance, because it's a whole lot more balanced than you seem to think.
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"You r the shakespeare of heroes vi, in every single battle i say: "he is gonna to loss"." - Cumulo88
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 26, 2012 05:30 PM |
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Actually, 9 weeks army which is close to the duel mode armies are fairly balanced but that is with lvl 2 reputation and lvl 25. For a different round where armies are that of week 6, reputation and hero level has to scale down accordingly to avoid blood magic overpowering might. In the next tourney the armies will change again assuming I manage to provide a balanced set in time, there are many variables to keep in mind and even more testing to be done
For the record, it is week 6 armies that are actually realistic. If you played multiplayer you wouldn't see week 10+ armies unless the map was ourageously large.
I am sorry to hear that simpel, you have not been the luckiest of players. I hope that you will return in the future but for now do your best to face me in the finals! I still have a lot to teach you 
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 26, 2012 06:13 PM |
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Lol dude. I do duels all the time. It's all I do when I play this game. All I was saying is, with the hero and army given in the map, it is a contest of blood magicians, all other type of heroes will lose. Which is why I was suggesting to increase the army a bit.
Beside, who has a hero lvl 20 at week 6? Who has a full artifact set at week 6 ? And in those real games, don't we waste a few points on better movement n such?
Seems to me that the hero is stronger than the rest of his army.
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Gameslayer989
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Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 26, 2012 06:40 PM |
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You actually have a lot more artifacts than is given in this map by week 6, believe me. At week 6 i usually have like 10-15 artifacts in a proper game, and some of those are relics, unlike in this map.
Also, I play the blood magician nearly every single game, and believe me, they are not over powered in this map. If you still don't believe me fight Elvin or Nikloas on this map, both of whom i think favour might heroes over magic ones. Without reputation level 2 magic is quite a bit weaker than in normal duels. Also the ability to choose extra core and elite stacks allows for a lot more variation than in duels, and less points also surpisingly means more variation. Why? Because when you have more points you have the ability to get a lot of situational spells you'll never use along with your core focus. With less spell points however you have to choose which spells are going to be your core focus, because you do not have the points to waste on situational ones. Forcing you to choose a strategy BEFORE the match starts changes a lot and adds for some strange variance. It's a strange concept, and i don't think i explained it clearly enough, but hey i tried
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Foux
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posted December 26, 2012 06:43 PM |
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First man u don't get full stuff. And I do normal games and I can assure you that in 6 weeks I got way more artifact / level & units than what he gives us (on a big map cause little map end at week 4/5 ...)
In term of points, it's true that I have to takes points in enlightment and movements ( and such) so it's not real either ..... but if u want a real last fight play on a real map and u will see !
Otherwise you can try to duel with elvin on his map , I'm sure that if u take blood mage and him another thing he can still win
Foux
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KaynaCrous
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posted December 26, 2012 06:51 PM |
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All right. Well, I may know duels but I dont know normal games well, honestly.
We can assume that there is a huge gap between high ressources + fast hero levelup + easy compared to low ressources + normal hero lvling + hard settings.
It also depends on people s gameplay. If this is intended to mimic a battle in a normal game, I can tell you that I have A LOT more tier one units when the battle comes because I dont lose many units while creeping. Then again, it depends if auto battle is on or not as well?
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Let's stop arguing and see the results. Was there any tournament done before, with this map?
Who won, and who ended up second? Were they both blood mages?
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