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posted January 30, 2013 06:39 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 18:42, 30 Jan 2013.
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Humanitarian award of the year goes to Sweden !!!!
Congratulations Sweden you have outdone yourself, your noble humanitarian ways towards criminals, your obliviousness to reality and high horse/head in a sand stance has been the main reason for you receiving the most sought after award any country would simply kill for.
Sweden, today I am proud to announce that you are indeed the RAPE CAPITAL OF EUROPE/WESTERN WORLD !!!! Congratulations are in order I think..
One must not get too comfortable though, being the best in the West is not being the best in the world and that bloody South Africa still leads the game, leaving sloppy seconds for Sweden  if only Sweden could also convince its population that sex (caugh caugh raping) a virgin can cure a man with HIV (or some other disease in case of Sweden coz they dont have as much HIV positives as S. Africa)
Sweden has managed a great deal though, almost tripling USA/UK/France in rapes per 100.000 people, well it's not tripling if we combine USA, UK and France, I think Sweden could do more and should strive for greatness in that department instead of being equal with combined forces of those three... Show some pride Sweden, you're better than that...
The funny facts (which obviously hurt Sweden's journey towards greatness) are that 80% of rapes don't even get reported, Sweden however likes winning and has been doing a great job with giving incentive to sexual offenders, They're doing so by recording one of the lowest conviction rates of sex crimes in the world and lets not forget the humanitarian attitude towards imprisonment the Swedes have, worst case scenario you will have to stay at home and avoid drinking alochol (harsh punisment indeed)
Sweden also goes over the top to protect... why you guessed it right, not the victim but the offenders, god forbid Sweden would say anything bad about immigrants (who btw are 5% of the Swedish population but account for 77% of rapists - well amongst the reported crimes of course)...
To rationalize things (and frankly who can argue with this logic anyway):
The approach of many Muslim men is that there is nothing wrong in raping Swedish girls and women. In their culture, the man has every right to dispose of the woman as he sees fit. Some young men that were interviewed by the daily DN in response to a gang rape in Rissne outside of Stockholm put it like this:
Its not as wrong to rape a Swedish girl as it is to rape an Arab girl, says Hamid. The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably been snowed already. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her it is a great shame to be raped. It is important that she retains her virginity when she marries.
Its far too easy to get a snow
girl, I mean, says Hamid, and displays an embarrassed smile due to his choice of words. Many immigrant boys go with Swedish girls when they are teenagers. But then when they are to marry, they take a proper woman from their own culture that has not been with any guy. So will I do. I do not have much respect for Swedish girls. You could say that they get snowed until they are broken.
Makes sense right ?
Politicians however will do whatever it takes to conceal all of this to protect their flawless model of social engineering... It is flawless, after all according to rape-crisis advocates in Sweden, one-third of Swedish women have been sexually assaulted by the time they leave their teens.
Without that flawless model Sweden wouldnt be number two and todays hottest spot in the western world...for rapists of course
Well done Sweden, I tip my hat to your obliviousness, sacrificing your women for such a noble cause is indeed admirable !!!
Or maybe not 
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posted January 30, 2013 06:43 PM |
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posted January 30, 2013 06:49 PM |
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I wish Gnomes, it is indeed written in a sarcastic manner (humanitarian award for being the rape capital of the western world) unfortunately it is all true, feel free to google rape statistics of Sweden, just type "rape Sweden" in google and you'll be amazed to find thousands of articles and the most troubling wave of gangrapes of even little girls as old as 11... This is the OSM and this matter is an extremely serious one, however our fav Swedes in the forum are somewhat oblivious as to what is happening in their country...
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posted January 30, 2013 06:49 PM |
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I'm not sure if I should be offended or not.
Maybe preemptive chainaxe to face just in case?
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posted January 30, 2013 06:53 PM |
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I say get mad, get offended and most importantly be aware Adrius, if I were you though I would get mad at your gov coz those are your friends, moms, sisters being hurt.... every third girl, that sounds a lot to me
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posted January 30, 2013 06:55 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 18:56, 30 Jan 2013.
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Nah.
There are several serious explanations to this, one of them being that we classify rape in a much more strict manner than other countries.
For example, it doesn't even have to involve penetration, touching is enough, in fact you don't even have to be physically with the girl for it to count as rape.
One man recently got convicted for rape because he forced a girl to do sexual favours for him over webcam. It even got classified as a major rape crime since she was underage (any sexual favours with an underage girl automatically gets classified as major rape crime, which is also a Sweden unique I think).
We don't **** around with rapists that's all, we judge it harder than other countries and under a whole lot more categories which naturally shoots the statistics through the roof.
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posted January 30, 2013 07:03 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 19:05, 30 Jan 2013.
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Adrius maybe you're unaware of how your country punishes offenders in general, harsh is not the right word for it...
I indeed am familiar with the strict definitions you guys have but all of them sound like sexual assault to me...
Here's an article about a woman who looked into it a bit more than you coz to me you sound like the propaganda your gov preaches
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Except for that, just last week
January 2013
Looks like penetration to me... and there are so many cases as this one, you really think they call Sweden the capital of rape coz of your strict definitions ? I think you're lying to yourself, and its a shame coz that attitude is "good men doing nothing while horrible things happen"
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posted January 30, 2013 07:03 PM |
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In Sweden, there is nothing, the only s-shop. The red indicator is nothing. Just zero! Sweden thought of equality, but to import competition. If there is a man does not have a main family. It's not a gender issue, but a different matter. Ok in the country would not have any competition. Crooked or not. Their own problem! Thank you!
Rich Arab handle with no problem. Did you get the idea? 
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posted January 30, 2013 07:15 PM |
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Seems pretty logical to me.
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posted January 30, 2013 07:17 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:21, 30 Jan 2013.
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I ain't preaching no government propaganda lol, I don't even think our government knows how to do propaganda... remember we're like the least corrupt place on earth too right? ^^
And yeah that's penetration, I didn't exactly say penetrative rape doesn't happen.
I'm not saying it's perfect, the system obviously needs work otherwise we'd have zero rape, but there's a whole lot more to it than you think.
There are very many reported rapes, but I doubt the rate of prosecution is so low only because we have some sorta "protect the rapist!" agenda, one part of it I believe is that our women don't fear reporting sexual offense. I believe we have a society where having been raped isn't as much a social stigma as in other countries, and therefore girls don't fear reporting it. The rise in feminism and equality over the years also contributes to the reporting of more of these rapes since women dare to speak (remember we have a relatively very high gender equality), so to say that rape has increased over the years is uncertain since it may just be that it's reported more.
I believe that if other countries' women had a bit more of the Swedish "REPORT THAT **** INSTANTLY!" mentality, their statistics would also be a lot higher.
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Something on your side of the argument's favour: We like to drink, A LOT. We don't casually drink like a glass of wine or two a day no... we wait until friday/saturday and then we drink 'til we like pass out while partying very hard,
It's not very good, and I'm sure many rapes occur because of it.
Oh yeah and skip the condescending tone please, doesn't make your post look any better and I ain't getting mad any time soon.
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posted January 30, 2013 07:33 PM |
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Edited by smithey at 19:34, 30 Jan 2013.
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I ain't preaching no government propaganda lol, I don't even think our government knows how to do propaganda... remember we're like the least corrupt place on earth too right? ^^
And yeah that's penetration, I didn't exactly say penetrative rape doesn't happen.
I'm not saying it's perfect, the system obviously needs work otherwise we'd have zero rape, but there's a whole lot more to it than you think.
There are very many reported rapes, but I doubt the rate of prosecution is so low only because we have some sorta "protect the rapist!" agenda, one part of it I believe is that our women don't fear reporting sexual offense. I believe we have a society where having been raped isn't as much a social stigma as in other countries, and therefore girls don't fear reporting it. The rise in feminism and equality over the years also contributes to the reporting of more of these rapes since women dare to speak (remember we have a relatively very high gender equality), so to say that rape has increased over the years is uncertain since it may just be that it's reported more.
I believe that if other countries' women had a bit more of the Swedish "REPORT THAT **** INSTANTLY!" mentality, their statistics would also be a lot higher.
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Something on your side of the argument's favour: We like to drink, A LOT. We don't casually drink like a glass of wine or two a day no... we wait until friday/saturday and then we drink 'til we like pass out while partying very hard,
It's not very good, and I'm sure many rapes occur because of it.
Oh yeah and skip the condescending tone please, doesn't make your post look any better and I ain't getting mad any time soon.
Statistical reports are that 80% of the sexual assaults dont get reported in Sweden, less than 15% of rapes reach court, conviction rate is lower than it was in 1965 !!! convicted offenders get silly punishments, 30% of the girls get sexually assaulted before reaching the age of 18, those are the numbers... And those numbers are troubling IMO
as claimed by a woman who actually works in that line of work and has done her research
"for most raped Swedish women, the shelters are full, the hotlines inactive, and the police selectively look the other way"
It's a massive problem, for women at least, and frankly its kinda insane to see in a country that takes pride in equality of gender...
But Im not arguing here nor intending to offend (even though I've used a sarcastic voice), this is meant only to raise awareness...
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posted January 30, 2013 08:10 PM |
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I think it's problematic to compare statistics here when the criteria for rape isn't the same worldwide. That being said, rape and sexual assault is a big problem in Sweden. The police system is far from optimal. I have a suggestion where we privatize the police. Police companies would get a profit from solving crimes.
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posted January 30, 2013 08:20 PM |
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I think we should strive to engineer something similar to the Night lords.
After all, most of the earths problems could be solved with an army of chaotic evil batmen 
This nothing to do with the thread but I post it anyway cuz im a rebul.
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posted January 30, 2013 08:20 PM |
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I have a suggestion where we privatize the police. Police companies would get a profit from solving crimes.
Uuuuhuuuurgh no.
You already see the problems when private gain is involved with police trying to reach certain statistics to go up in rank.
In my hometown they send loads and loads of police aspirants who desperately try and catch as many criminals as possible, and with criminals I mean teen moped drivers cuz it's easy farming points.
They can be pretty insane at times... not focusing on important issues.
Then again I'm a lefty red Khornate while you're some kinda right bluish Tzeentch heretic so we're permanently split on the privatization spectrum of course...
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posted January 30, 2013 08:30 PM |
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You'd get more profit for solving harder crimes. The police in Sweden is extremly ineffective and a solution to that could be the expose them to competition.
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posted January 30, 2013 08:32 PM |
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There's an explanation for why a good amount of the population in places like Sweden or S. Africa might not want to (or enjoy) bringing up rape and sexual assault as a major issue, and it's so obvious that it can be easy to look over. Any ideas?
I'm not talking about among women.
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posted January 30, 2013 08:57 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 20:58, 30 Jan 2013.
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Because we're secretely all rapists? ^^
Honestly no I don't know.
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posted January 30, 2013 09:02 PM |
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Yes 
No but seriously, in somewhere like S. Africa or Jamaica, a significant portion of the male population is a rapist in some fashion (maybe not literally pinning a woman down a ****ing her, but maybe doing something that they regret from college or in their teenage years or the likes), so it's not a topic that they like to bring up much and tend to stay low.
Plus the police force itself composes of a disproportionately high volume of people that see rape as something instigated by the female, so they don't care as much as what the average person would. That part probably isn't as true in Sweden since your country is secretly operated by whip-wielding Nazi Matriarchs, but I'm sure the police is still more "roughneck" relative to the rest of the population.
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posted January 30, 2013 09:12 PM |
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I wanna see a correlation in Swedish rape rates with their non-ethnic Swedes percentage of the population.
Now wouldn't THAT be something to talk about. ^^
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posted January 30, 2013 09:44 PM |
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Edited by xerox at 21:52, 30 Jan 2013.
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You'd have to question the value of making statistics based on ethnicity. A rape is a rape no matter what the offender's skin colour is. However a consequence of the multicultural state is that views on the rights and dignity of women clash. That's a big and largely ignored problem.
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