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BeeKay
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posted August 10, 2014 04:15 PM |
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No, it is not 'possible' There MIGHT be an opportunity like 1 in 10 millions but I do not consider it as a 'possibility'. I tried to fight them using ONE shield spell and keeping the rest for ressurection, they killed 3 of my devils and that's when I cast ressurection, which only ressurected 2 of the devils instead of 3. That being said, it is impossible. Even if I cast ressurection when there are two devils left I won't be able to kill them all 1 by 1 and I can only win the fight with 2 maximum 3 devils left which won't grant me access to the hat.
That being said this mod is unplayable and nearly impossible to finish at the very beginning and requires to save/load for EVERY step, which is not what Heroes is supposed to be. You do save and load in Heroes but not that frequently. WIthout using cheats this mod cannot be solved and using cheats does not mean it's fun. Neither is its insolubility.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 04:23 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 16:25, 10 Aug 2014.
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Don't get mad. With all the work which went into, it is clear that is not accessible to every Heroes beginner (resurrect, shield? what about MASS SLOW!).
The first battle is winnable 1000 times out of 1000 times, and is not a matter of luck or morale, but just game basics knowledge.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 04:28 PM |
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Edited by BeeKay at 16:31, 10 Aug 2014.
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First of all, I am not new to Heroes. I don't play it that much but I started with HoMMII back in my childhood and played it quite a bit.
Secondly, I was reading that thread and the older thread, obviously not all 150 pages, but I haven't seen any complains on the game start except the bug with the chaser who gets stuck. Which made me think that perhaps my version is not correct and/or is bugged therefore I cannot win it. That also made me think that by default in WoG settings the ability to drop/leave the forces on the ground was DISABLED so I had to restart the game and manually check it. I wonder how many more vital options there are disabled which might later screw me the game.
Lastly, if every encounter will be like that, which will require me 4389434x10 times to save/load the game and try again, I wonder if that is even worth playing because it's not. I am astonished on how big and great this map is but I'd rather run this map in a normal scenario, if I can and I don't know how to do it (tried to run it in the editor, but it gives the corruption error), than play it within this mod as the mod is clearly unplayable. There is a huge gap between fun/hardcore and insolubility. So, it is impossible. Even if I cast ressurection when there are two devils left I won't be able to kill them all 1 by 1 and I can only win the fight with 2 maximum 3 devils left which won't grant me access to the hat.
That being said this mod is unplayable and nearly impossible to finish at the very beginning and requires to save/load for EVERY step, which is not what Heroes is supposed to be. You do save and load in Heroes but not that frequently. Without using cheats this mod cannot be solved and using cheats does not mean it's fun. Neither is its insolubility. In that case there is virtually no solution even to the first battle and even if there is a possibility to win this fight leaving 4 devils, then other fights will be as snowty and will require billion loads/saves to make which is not 'FUN'.
P.S. Yes I do have mass slow, I am quite aware of it, but it only works 2 moves, there is no way I can harm them enough with two moves until I lose my 2 devils and this is when I'll have to cast Ressurection which will burn the rest of my mana, and obviously I won't even have protection this way and they will probably kill one of the daemons which means I won't get the hat. Any solution to that? Unplayable. Period.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 04:31 PM |
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BeeKay said:
Unplayable. Period.
Thanks for interesting review. 
I agree that you should look for something else then.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 04:33 PM |
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Sal said:
The first battle is winnable 1000 times out of 1000 times, and is not a matter of luck or morale, but just game basics knowledge.
With cheats, yes. I tried most of the tactics, the most I could is 3 devils instead of 4.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 04:33 PM |
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Sal said:
The first battle is winnable 1000 times out of 1000 times, and is not a matter of luck or morale, but just game basics knowledge.
With cheats, yes. I tried most of the tactics, the most I could is 3 devils instead of 4.
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BeeKay
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posted August 10, 2014 04:33 PM |
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Sal said:
The first battle is winnable 1000 times out of 1000 times, and is not a matter of luck or morale, but just game basics knowledge.
With cheats, yes. I tried most of the tactics, the most I could is 3 devils instead of 4.
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BeeKay
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posted August 10, 2014 04:53 PM |
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Sal is clearly trolling. How can I cast mass slow if it takes 5 mana not 4 and Ressurection takes 16? If I cast mass slow I won't be able to cast Ressurection.
BS
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 05:12 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 17:20, 10 Aug 2014.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 05:25 PM |
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How do you manage to strike twice? My devils only strike one time per turn.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 05:26 PM |
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How did you manage to strike TWICE per one hit on 00:06? Like you hit him when there are 10 soldiers left, then suddenly 6 are left and a millisecond later only 2?
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 05:45 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 17:48, 10 Aug 2014.
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Swan pond visited: +2 luck. Got luck once (10), then attack second turn (6) then retaliated (2).
It looks like double attack because I use turbo wog mod, battle speed x 10.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 05:55 PM |
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Hmm, you were right. The wait tactics is the key. I managed to win the fight (after 4rth attempt lol) without any loses with wait tactics, but the dude who chases me still manages to get me even after I get the hat. When I board the ship he still gets me.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted August 10, 2014 05:58 PM |
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BeeKay, you should stop complaining about the game being too hard and start thinking on improving your strategy. Thousands of people completed this map many times.
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The future of Heroes 3 is here!
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 05:59 PM |
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Whatever, I managed to get away from that piece of crap who was chasing me but I guess it will get harder and harder. Ok. I will try and 'focus on my strategy' but the gameplay is for fanatics who play Heroes 24/7, which alas I am not. But thanks for your help.
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 06:01 PM |
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Edited by Sal at 18:04, 10 Aug 2014.
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Look if the hat is equipped before you board.
A common mistake people do is imagining it equips automatically, but if you started the game with artifact bonus, something may already occupy the neck or the head.
BeeKay said:
the gameplay is for fanatics who play Heroes 24/7, which alas I am not.
There are 7 levels of internal difficulty. If you select 1-4 the game will be very easy. After the swordsmen fight.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 08:03 PM |
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Nah, I will try to beat this on Hell diff  Seems tough lol. But that chaser did not come to me after two months. He is still stuck there at the starting location, not sure why.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 08:03 PM |
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Nah, I will try to beat this on Hell diff Seems tough lol. But that chaser did not come to me after two months. He is still stuck there at the starting location, not sure why.
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BeeKay
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2014 09:01 PM |
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Well I disabled the previous one in mod manager then started installing the newer version over the last one but did not overwrite anything as you said so I guess it only changed few files. I did press F12 and visited both towns yet he is still there. It is month 5. :/
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Sal
Famous Hero
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posted August 10, 2014 09:05 PM |
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k, upload your save at wikisend.com, I will move pasis near you.
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